Posted on 05/10/2012 9:24:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I think Walker ends up with 52% of the vote on June 5.
Does anyone seriously think the RAT party in the USSA is going to accept the results of this recall, if the RAT position loses?
RE: I think Walker ends up with 52% of the vote on June 5.
Are you by any chance, from the great state of Wisconsin where you can better gauge the pulse of the local populace?
WI “PINGO”
I think that such a margin is possible, based on the numbers from the primary election.
However, we can’t get complacent here in WI. We need to turn out the vote.
This poll breaks down to about the same percentage Walker won with against the same candidate in 2010.
A lot of hoops, hoopla, shenanigans and bullsh*t for naught.
In a perfect world, Walker would blow him out by 20+%.
I work right in the heart of the beast (Madison).
We need to pray & work & contribute like crazy to secure a win for Walker as well as the 4 WI Repub state senators.
I strenuously object to the notion that a petition drive can force another showdown between candidates.
The step missing before that is for the voters to decide if there should be another election.
As it stands, this should be unconstitutional, and it should be challenged. A legitimate election is being overthrown by just a tiny percentage of those who voted in that election.
The petition should only allow a question to go before the voters: “Should there be another election for governor?” If another FULL ELECTORATE election decides to have another candidate showdown, then it should take place.
Of course not, they'll throw their predictable foul-mouthed temper tantrums and break laws with impunity, courtesy of the jus' dis Department's blessing.
Completely concur, but today we are jazzed. We are feeling confident and the Left has suddenly realized that there is a very real possibility that they will lose on June 5.
You have to understand that for nearly a year and a half the corrupt media has championed the Left-wing lunatics and their Union brethren’s cause. Every Prius and Suburu is plastered with multiple “Recall Walker” stickers. Every day, for a year-and-a-half this has been in our face and we’ve had to just suck it up. I tell you, people are simply spring-loaded to get to the polls and vote for Walker and stuff this back back down their throats.
It will be delicious to see the media after Walker wins. They have been absolutely hyping the "grievances" of the teacher's union and the left since this all began. They have provided no balance just catering to the left, and people are sick and tired of this deliberate effort to distort reality and rewrite facts simply to further their agenda by the media.
This will be a primer for what's to come when we fire Zer0's sorry ass!
If Walker wins, which would be HUGE, any idea what recourse the slime has, in calling for another recall? Can they do this again next year? Year after?
Because you & I know, that any of the legislative victories for Walker & the Repubs will ALWAYS end up being challenged & overruled by some dimTurd RAT bastard, pro-union, SOB, peon county court district judge in Dane County that somehow can make rulings for the entire state of WI.
They could try again but they wont get any $$$$ support to do it.
If people think the recall election is expensive, just wait until the bill for the recount of the recount of the recount of the recount with each recount the dem getting just a few more votes until recount 11 which finally puts the dem 2 votes up thus ending the recount
I've sent a donation to Walker recently.. anyone have ideas as to polling data re: Kleefisch and the Senators?
I’ve been saying for the last few weeks that Walker will win by the same number (5%) as the 2010 election against Barrett.
After the primary I’m betting its closer to 10%. Why?
- blacks will not show in the big numbers needed for Barrett in a recall, their UE rate in the City of Milwaukee is near 50%!!
- a percentage of real leftist will sit this out. Barrett is basically Walker to them and they’d be better off hating Walker for the rest of his term and then get their candidate in 2014.
- the Dems are pivoting to jobs as their rallying cry for the recall. All Walker will have to say is “how is the mayor of a City with 10.4% unemployment, 50% AA UE, and has a 29% increase in UE over his 8 years qualified to say anything about jobs?”
- Barrett is counting on this John Doe investigation hurting Walker...a political dirty trick this late in the process will not go over well.
- colleges in WI will already be on summer break. There will not be an influx of students lining up to vote on election day
- voting patterns show that there were likely over 700K Republicans voting in the primary. A primary that a good chunk of WI residents had no idea that was taking place. Our resident “expert” Mordechi Lee here in Milwaukee was confidently saying that 95% of R primary voters would vote Falk and Walker votes would be minimal. He wasn’t even close!!!
The wave that is building up here?. The reason for so many votes in a primary? Heard it on the talk shows all day yesterday. We’ve had to sit here and take the lefts sh!t for 15 months now and we finally got our first chance to show support for Gov Walker in a way other than donations. There is no real historical explanation for this huge primary turnout here in WI other than the fact that we’re looking for scalps in this fight and we’re going to get every single one we want.
I think because of how charged up we are you’re going to see fervor on the left to continue to dissipate...
That night I’ll be drinking in celebration and likely having my wife keep me from going out in the street and telling all of my recall supporting neighbors to go and screw themselves... :)
I love you. I really, really do.
It’ll be 55-45 Walker, if not better. Just like he beat Barrett before.
This will make it three times Barrett ran for Governor and lost. Barrett is a piece of soggy limp toast. Always has been.
You don’t win when your main reason for victory is because you hate the other guy. Almost always that isn’t enough. You have to have real reasons to vote FOR someone over another. Barrett has no reasons of his own why he’s better than Walker. “I’m not Walker” isn’t enough. Wasn’t last time either.
Thanks Beagle
Someone needs to re-write the lyrics to "Devil Went Down to Georgia" something like - "I beat you once, you sonuvagun, I'm the best that's ever been!" And based on some of Charlie Daniels' previous blog postings, I'd guess he might go along with it, too!
The Wisconsin Constitution makes specific provision for recall petitions. Whether this is a lousy idea or not, it’s clearly constitutional.
IMO, they are done. Walker will have to run again for his normal term in 2014 and the only problem he could encounter then is if Rusty Feingold decides to run at that point. Feingold is the Liberal’s demigod and could be a wildcard. I don’t think anyone else touches Walker.
And you’re the only one on this board that scares me when you say that!
There seem to be several sites...
Thanks. In 2 years, I think Feingold’s shine will have dulled also... He gets past this, he’s one of my faves for 2016.
The Marxists have picked their ground zero. Striking against democracy is just beginning to lose ground in Wisconsin, by around 10%.
So many battles, so many enemies. It’s exhausting, isn’t it? And foreign money is probably being smuggled in to futher frustrate our new found muscle to fight back.
How come we Republicans never buy a few buses, megaphones, protesters, hell raisers and political flame throwers?
We may not be up to the tactical supplies necessary.
Unfortunately, it’s constitutional in Wisconsin. Doesn’t make it right, but perhaps recall elections could be made more difficult.
Republicans tried very hard to recall the Wisconsin Fleebaggers once upon a time, and are still trying to do so in the case of people like Bob Jauch. But if I remember correctly (and perhaps I don’t), current law calls for a recall based on a percentage of previous ballots cast.
In parliamentary procedure, a Motion to Reconsider may only be made by a member of the winning side in a vote. Therefore, I wouldn’t be averse to requiring those who wish to recall a candidate to gather more valid petition signatures than the number of votes cast for the election winner.
And yes, I know it could work both ways. But recall elections every two years is no way to run a government.
I would not be surprised if Walker wins by 10 points. A lot of people lie to pollsters, especially in light of the violent threats from the union goons. I just want to see Ed Schultz’ head explode.
I would not be surprised if Walker wins by 10 points. A lot of people lie to pollsters, especially in light of the violent threats from the union goons. I just want to see Ed Schultz’ head explode.
It would be an interesting argument to determine what the threshold for demanding a recall should be. Both a "majority of those voting" and "a number exceeding the incumbent's vote-total" seem to my first glance to be an unduly high bar to jump. That is, the campaign itself is where the real argument gets made--it seems unrealistic to persuade that many without the chance for focused persuasion, which a campaign provides.
How does 40% sound? For example (although one far removed), the nine-member Supreme Court requires the votes of just four justices to authorize hearing a case. At least with that many you avoid the problem of too-few petition signers and every-other-year recalls.
Your thoughts?
Communists never give up.
Consider a hammer driving a nail.
If you just saw the hammer during the back stroke,
you’d wonder how that nail was getting deeper and deeper into the wood.
I doubt it. But I do think a hard and fast percentage should be adopted -- and the bar needs to be high. Provided Voter ID laws are passed to ensure that the initial election is valid in the first place, recall elections OUGHT to be hard. For a reason.
I just sent another $100 to Governor Walker.
I hope everyone supports him as much as possible.
Let’s say the bar is 10% to have a recall election.
Why should 10% of the population get to overturn an election?
Or 20%, or even 30%.
That should ONLY permit a vote to determine if the election should be overturned.
Otherwise, 10/20/30% controls elections. That’s insane. Just get the people who voted against a guy to sign a petition, and they get a do-over.
I firmly believe that a law needs to be passed, even a constitutional amendment, for Wisconsin that if you retain your office in a recall election, the win should be good for one successive term. The recall effort should cost the recallers something if they lose.
I’ll be supporting him and the 4 “R” Senator with my donations - from TEXAS.
These accounts, and many others, need to be held before the public's eyes constantly until the election. They need to witness what violent goons these Marxists are.
You responded to my suggestion that the bar be set at 40% by arguing against 10%/20%/30%.
It cannot possibly fit equal protection under the law for 10% of the people to overturn an election in which far more than that voted.
It should take the petition to have an election on the recall question. And then there should be an election if the electorate determines to recall the governor.
No, I wasn’t arguing against you. I was still arguing against the system. Whoever said “more signatures than voted for the one being recalled” has an idea with merit.
Wisconsin: Rasmussen release poll on Walder’s and Barret’s chances ping
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Re. polling for the state senators, you actually can't trust any of the polling data, since the liberal RAT bastard media is doing everything they can to squelch enthusiasm or turnout for the Repubs. Last year, one of the recall elections for state senator Sheila Harsdorf, the media & demturds were gloating they would win in a landslide, and instead the exact opposite happened. Sheila Harsdorf won with something like 60-40% or somewhere in that neighborhood.
The thing I have noticed is that a lot of independents & virtally every Repub is pissed off over the constant recalls. If there is a massive turnout on June 5 (which I pray to God that it will be massive), I think that will favor the Repubs overwhelmingly.
Thanks for the info!
DAY-um.... she IS all you describe!! Heck with the recall.. Imagine the dream third-party ticket in November...
Palin/Kleefisch 2012!
;-)
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