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State finds thousands of non-citizens on Florida voting rolls; will they prosecute?
BizPacReview.com ^ | May 10, 2012 | Michele Kirk

Posted on 05/10/2012 7:21:19 AM PDT by T.O.K.

Fueling the debate over the pervasiveness of election fraud in Florida, a Miami Herald article Tuesday exposed the possibility that thousands of illegal votes have been cast by foreigners, particularly in South Florida.

The Florida Division of Elections is already working to stem the problem, its spokesman told the Herald.

For the past year, the division has joined forces with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to identify potential fraud by rooting out foreigners on the voting rolls, division spokesman Chris Cate said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; corruption; democratcorruption; democrats; democratvoterfraud; electionfraud; elections; fraud; illegals; liberals; noncitizens; progressives; voterfraud; voting
This will go absolutely nowhere, and the liberals in Florida, like the crazy League of Women voters, will claim that there is no fraud . . . "what fraud, we don't see any fraud". They did it at the Lynn University debate a few months back. Until people start getting prosecuted, our voting rights are being contaminated greatly!
1 posted on 05/10/2012 7:21:22 AM PDT by T.O.K.
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To: T.O.K.

They’d better make sure nobody on that list votes. Where I live, we work damn hard to keep our vote tallies honest and accurate. I have zero tolerance for vote fraud.


2 posted on 05/10/2012 7:23:34 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: T.O.K.

I’d like to see a comparison of NY and FL voters.

Once you handcuff, frog march and prosecute just a few retired government/union employees and their wives, the word would get around. Fast.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 7:28:02 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: T.O.K.

Holder will be right on it.

/S


4 posted on 05/10/2012 7:31:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: T.O.K.
O yes. They will crack down on 1,000 Motor Voter Hispanics and Haitians!

However, the many, many thousands of South Florida "Dual Voters," I.E., those who vote in NY, NJ, MI, OH, AND Florida ..... will of course, escape any scrutiny.

These "Multi-State Voters" are traditionally a Democrat margin of victory in this benighted state. Of course, the traditional vote scams are also in place in the "inner city," and out in the Democrat boondocks.,

5 posted on 05/10/2012 7:32:29 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: T.O.K.

Maybe a bunch of us “right-minded” people should man the polls with some batons.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 7:37:19 AM PDT by jrg
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To: BenLurkin

There are plenty of State laws regarding voting. The problem is to keep Holder out of it.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 7:38:17 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: T.O.K.

will they prosecute?


is the pope jewis?
is the volt a good buy?
is down up?

The bigger question is. WILL THEY VOTE?


8 posted on 05/10/2012 7:39:29 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: jrg

With some brown shoe polish, you’d be able to get away with it without being prosecuted.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 7:39:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: cableguymn

Jewish even... darn typos.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 7:39:55 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Kenny Bunk

That & college students who dual register...


11 posted on 05/10/2012 7:40:13 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: T.O.K.

How long before we hear that prosecuting illegal aliens from voting illegally is racist?


12 posted on 05/10/2012 7:40:23 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: T.O.K.

How many liberal snowbirds voting twice and so very proud of it?


13 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:03 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER (I'm supposed to be more angry about what Romney does with his money than what Obama does with mine)
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To: T.O.K.

“what fraud?”

The AARP said exactly the same thing in their newsletter opposing voter ID.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: T.O.K.

Florida has a republican governor(Rick Scott) and the attorney general, Pam Bondi is a conservative. How about some prosecutions?


15 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:20 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: Hodar

that hasn’t happened already?


16 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:45 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: T.O.K.

17 posted on 05/10/2012 7:43:48 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: T.O.K.

no fraud?!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/08/DC-Polling-Place-Holder-Ballot


18 posted on 05/10/2012 7:44:13 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: ThomasMore

Is that Holder in drag?


19 posted on 05/10/2012 7:45:00 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER (I'm supposed to be more angry about what Romney does with his money than what Obama does with mine)
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To: Tallguy

Yeah. I fuggot those “people.” They screw up lots of states.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 7:52:08 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Florida has a republican governor(Rick Scott) and the attorney general, Pam Bondi is a conservative. How about some prosecutions?

They'll get right on that after the Zimmerman Hanging.

21 posted on 05/10/2012 7:53:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
. These "Multi-State Voters" are traditionally a Democrat margin of victory in this benighted state

Yes, and these multi-state voters are RICH enough to have TWO homes! Let them share their wealth and give one home to someone less fortunate. I am a poor Republican, with one apartment. How is that fair? LOL

22 posted on 05/10/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama studied our Constution because he hates it, not because he loves our country or laws.)
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To: T.O.K.

I got this from a friend yesterday. The rules are pretty loosy-goosy-—

According to the Manatee County Voters Guide, if a person fills out a voter registration application and checks that they are a citizen of the United States, and signs the oath statement, and submits the application, they will receive a voter registration card and they will be able to vote.

Neither a Florida driver’s license number, a Florida I.D. number, or a Social Security number is specifically required. Only a copy of a photo ID showing the applicants name and photo.

The following forms of photo ID are acceptable: debit or credit card, Student identification card, public assistance identification, neighborhood association identification.

• Or instead of the photo ID, you may provide a copy of a current and valid utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document containing your name and current residence address.

• Or if you meet the following criteria, no identification is required: persons 65 years of age or older, persons with a temporary or permanent physical
disability. You see it gets easier and easier as the tough requirements are waived.

As to residency, the courts and the Florida Department of State/Division of Elections’ have construed legal residency to be where a person mentally intends to make his or her permanent residence. Evidence of such intent can come from items or activities such as obtaining a Florida driver’s license, paying tax receipts, paying bills for residency (light, water, garbage service) and receiving mail at address, claiming the property as homestead, declaring the county as domicile, and doing other activities indicative or normally associated with home life. Therefore, legal residence is a convergence of intent and fact. Once a person establishes residency for voting purposes, it is presumed to be valid or current until evidence shows otherwise.

Neither citizenship or residence is rigidly validated to register to vote. The system seems ripe for Voter Fraud. Further inquiry at the state level produced no additional information that would alleviate natural concern about such a lax system.

When a voter goes to the polls to vote a photo ID and a signature is required. But on the Supervisor of Elections Web Page they invite voters to update their signature, a provision I have never heard of anywhere else in business or banking. This would seem to undermine the whole point of requiring a signature and invite voter fraud by impersonating a deceased registered voter. Illegals voting, snowbirds voting in two states, multiple registrations, using deceased voters ID, all are possible ways voter fraud can happen in Manatee County.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 8:01:37 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: T.O.K.

When I voted in Indiana the other day I had to show picture ID to 3 different election workers before I was handed a ballot.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 8:08:09 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: T.O.K.

I bet they also found Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Adolf Hitler on the voting roles!


25 posted on 05/10/2012 8:22:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: BenLurkin

Right after he turns over all the Fast and Furious documents.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:56 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: T.O.K.
Illegals are afraid to call the police when they're robbed... they sure as hell aren't going to register to vote. My guess is dems are pulling names off of our sources, putting them on voter lists, and voting for them.

Everyday illegals here ( not the scammers) just want a job - and to be invisible...

27 posted on 05/10/2012 8:33:46 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: T.O.K.
Illegals are afraid to call the police when they're robbed... they sure as hell aren't going to register to vote. My guess is dems are pulling names off other sources, putting them on voter lists, and voting for them.
28 posted on 05/10/2012 8:34:10 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: T.O.K.; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

29 posted on 05/10/2012 3:43:04 PM PDT by HiJinx (A Higher Power is still just a false god.)
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To: Wordkraft

So you are a registered Republican or a registered Independent?

just kidding...sort of.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 4:21:26 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Kenny Bunk

You beat me to the post!


31 posted on 05/10/2012 4:23:15 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: GOPJ

They aren’t afraid to file for Federal tax benefits.
I think you vastly overestimate their fear...


32 posted on 05/10/2012 4:25:41 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The legal residency language is there to accommodate the tens of thousands of active duty military who don’t actually reside in the state, but claim Florida residency throughout their career. They vote here regardless of where they are stationed, even while overseas, and most retire here. Thank God! Without our veterans, there would be no counterweight to the leftists who come down from the NE.

The signature update part is because older people who vote absentee have to sign the outside of their ballot envelope. The signature is scanned electronically and matched to their registration. No match- they set it aside and don’t open the ballot. Old age, infirmity, medication can change the way your signature looks, so we encourage them to update it so their vote will count.
It could be used to perpetrate voter fraud, but is a bit harder than it sounds.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 7:18:35 PM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: sarasmom

I don’t have much faith in Dade County doing anything- but the local NBC station in SW Fla found 250 people registered to vote in Lee and Collier Counties who used lack of citizenship as an excuse for jury duty.
The 2 Supervisors immediately checked the names, and found only one person who had actually voted. She voted in 3 or 4 elections, and when the reporter knocked on her door, she freely admitted it.
So! We have one person, an illegal alien Hispanic woman, who should be arrested and prosecuted. Our District Attorney is a Republican, as are both Sheriffs, so I am waiting to see what happens. If they do the right thing, it should set a precedent for the other counties.If they don’t do the right thing- its an election year- they are toast.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 7:29:39 PM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: sarasmom

GOP


35 posted on 05/10/2012 8:25:04 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: GOPJ; T.O.K.
Everyday illegals here just want a job - and to be invisible.

Oh sure, they're scared to death and want to be invisible.

Dallas Texas, 2006, 500,000 illegals march on Dallas.

Emboldened by Bush's liberal open border policies and the fedgov, 500,000 illegals march on downtown Dallas Texas, making demands and threats, while wave foreign flags in your faces. During war time no less.

They want to be invisible eh?

Here La Raza invades Texas town hall meeting

36 posted on 05/11/2012 12:40:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sarasmom; GOPJ

See #36

GOPJ hasn’t a clue.


37 posted on 05/11/2012 12:42:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: T.O.K.
if the dead can vote... what's to stop the illegals???
38 posted on 05/11/2012 3:22:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sarasmom; Wordkraft; dragnet2; T.O.K.; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nation/feds-indicted-kan-gang-thrived-by-fomenting-fear-2351704.html

DODGE CITY, Kan. — Nearly two dozen members of a Hispanic gang were arrested in Kansas this week under a federal grand jury indictment accusing them of victimizing illegal immigrants who do their business in cash and are reluctant to go to law enforcement because of their immigration status.

Federal officials have long been keeping an eye on the Dodge City area, which has become a hub for drug trafficking in the Midwest because of its remote location and easy access to places like Denver, Kansas City and Oklahoma City. They say gangs have thrived in the area because police lacked resources, including Spanish-speaking officers, and gang members are able to easily blend into the growing Hispanic population.

U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom said all but one of the 23 members of the Nortenos gang arrested are first- or second-generation U.S. citizens. He said they preyed on illegal immigrants who were vulnerable and unlikely to seek police protection, using violence and threats to create a climate of fear, defend the gang’s reputation and territory and promote its drug trafficking activities.

“The indictment alleges members of the Nortenos preyed on Guatemalan immigrants who work in the beef packing plants in Dodge City,” Grissom said. “It is well known among the Nortenos that many of the Guatemalan workers do not use banks and try to avoid contact with law enforcement officers. They are smaller in stature and they are unlikely to be armed.”

The gang is charged under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, which allows prosecutors to charge individual members as part of a larger criminal organization. In recent years, the act has been used to prosecute human trafficking and gang cases, including charges in 2007 against 28 members of the Crips gang in Wichita — which was the first time RICO was used against gangs in Kansas.

Grissom announced the indictment handed down “some time ago under seal” on Friday after it was unsealed the day before. It charges four of the men with murder in the June 2009 slaying of Israel Peralta and attempted murder of three others who were with Peralta when he was shot to death. Gang members also face other attempted murder, assault with a dangerous weapon and drug charges. They are accused of methamphetamine trafficking, identified by the Drug Enforcement Agency as the state’s fastest growing drug threat.

The agency also has identified Mexican drug trafficking organizations as the biggest threat to Kansas, citing a lack of law enforcement resources and the ease with which gang members assimilate with growing Hispanic populations who come to work at meatpacking plants and feed yards in the southwest corner of the state.

Dodge City Police Chief Craig Mellecker estimated there are between 300 and 500 known gang members in Dodge City and acknowledged his department is woefully short in officers who are fluent in Spanish.

“We have a translator program in which translators are on call,” he said. “We have five Spanish-speaking employees.”

The Nortenos gang, however, originated in California prisons, not in Mexico.

“This is something that developed and was born in the States and migrated across the southwest as the Hispanic population has grown,” Grissom said.

Among those arrested in sweeps this week is alleged gang leader Jason Najera, 28. Those charged with murder are Pedro Garcia, 25; Gonzalo Ramirez, 26; Russell Worthey, 23; and Anthony Wright, 26. All of those indicted live in Dodge City and range in age from 19 to 31 years old.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nation/feds-indicted-kan-gang-thrived-by-fomenting-fear-2351704.html


39 posted on 05/11/2012 4:04:05 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: GOPJ; sarasmom; Wordkraft; dragnet2; T.O.K.; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; ...
You don't get it. Millions of illegals turned fraud into a major industry in the U.S. and occasionally won't go to the cops to due to the fact they don't trust them and believe they are as corrupt as Mexican law enforcement.

You're mistakenly under the impression, millions of illegals simply come here for a job, and to keep quiet.

You can't be this ignorant.

Take another look at post#36.

I can provide you with many more links, showing how they are not only in your face, but creating epic crime, fraud, while choking off our social services, welfare, jails, Hospitals, schools, and social services.

Let me know, I'll be happy to post more, just for you.

40 posted on 05/11/2012 4:30:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

If Washington doesn’t want to defend the Texas border then they have breached not only the constitutional contract, but treaty making Texas a party to it.

These invaders should have been rounded up then and deported.
6 years ago most of theses illegals did vote giving democrats control of congress.

Now we have more and more evidence that effect.


41 posted on 05/11/2012 7:03:51 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: popdonnelly

People in Florida need to keep pressure on the authorities to go after those involved in voter fraud.


42 posted on 05/17/2012 8:01:14 AM PDT by Dante3
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