Posted on 05/09/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
President Obama today announced that he now supports
same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure
from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.
In an interview with ABC News Robin Roberts, the president
described his thought process as an evolution that led him to this place,
based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian
service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.
"I have to tell you that over the course of several
years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about
members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous
relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I
think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there
fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't
Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at
a certain point Ive just concluded that for me personally it is important for
me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get
married, Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABCs Good Morning
America Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABCs World
News with Diane Sawyer.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
I was at the gym this afternoon when Obama made this announcement.
A democrat friend of mine(pro life, pro marriage, pro business, very religious) who does not like Obama and was planning on sitting out this election now plans to hold his knows while voting for Romney.
He said this nonsense must end.
Honestly, how is he still a democrat?
Romney will “evolve” by November 2012. Or probably right after the GOP convention.
Yes I’m well aware of the fanatical wish to portray Romney as pure liberal, despite his running on a conservative platform. The simple fact is that you, I and Free Republic combined don’t control reality, though you can stamp your feet and call me “darlin’ all you want.
The fact is Romney opposed gay marriage, then following the Mass. Supreme Court decision he tried to amend the state constitution with a compromise choosing civil unions. That didn’t work but whether or not Romney handled the issue perfectly, there is a clear difference with Obama on this and many issues.
A truce was called here and I want to be civil so don’t call me “darlin” and try to deal with some facts. You want to elect the one who favors gay marriage, have a party.
My comment was more intended to reflect the words in bold that were quoted, indicating that the writer of the piece was naive enough to think that Biden was exerting pressure, and I agree, but it would be he, not me, that flunks out.
Honestly, how is he still a democrat?
That’s what I keep telling him....I guess he’s a DINO...
I think outside of the US Northeast and US West Coast, support for same-sex marriages in the rest of the USA is barely positive to decidedly opposed. Obama might as well throw away most of the US Southeast, most of the US Midwest, and could even effect whether he could even win Indiana, Ohio and other "battleground" states.
Obamae just energized the Republican voter base and especially the Evangelical voter base to solidly vote him out of office.
[ Yes, it is funny when leftists start believing their own lies.
Project 10 has been around for a long time. Its the method of jamming that the left uses to impose their worldview whenever possible. The idea was to assert, at any given opportunity, that 10% of the population are homos.
I actually was at a dinner one night where the lone sheeperal blurted this out, totally out of context and non-sequitur to the conversation.
Everyone looked at her with a WTF expression on their faces. ]
You know how you fight this right?
Ask the libtard if they believe in Democracy?
Then ask what would happen if over half of the 90% who don’t behave like that would be well within their rights to vote on if they should ban, and if the vote to ban it passed with a majority vote then if that would be okay because it is a “democracy”...?
Or
Tell them that if the 10% can tell the 90% how to live then the 1% should be able to tell the 99% to go pound sand by their own logic.
[ I was just invited on TV to discuss this tomorrow! ]
SWEET, you should stress how great it is Obama decided to take on such a large and glowy green piece of Kryptonite...
Gays have deep pockets - Obama probably needed the contributions. Lucky for him the MSM won’t notice that it was a sell out...
[ Romney will evolve as far as Bambam by 2016. Hes getting us to the same place, just a tad slower. ]
Romney is a bug, Bugs don;t have spines and thusly can “evolve” quicker that any critter that has a spine.
[ Speaking of dogs....
Why cant I marry my dog?
I love my dog! ]
Did Obama eat a dog in terms of cooking or in terms of “eating out”?
I know it is a crass joke and I should know better. But you had the perfect setup.
Hmmmm. Guess that will help him win those North Carolina electoral votes, hey/
That position might give pause to one or two of his Af-Am supporters.
I thank God that I grew up in the time when my parents never told me what a homosexual was. It was not defined in my school or my church or anywhere because I was a little kid and I didn’t need to know these things. if in fact odumbo did talk to his daughters about this shame on him. that ranks a 10 on the creep o meter.
It is interesting that you call Romney the Republican nominee when we are still in primary season and have not yet made it to convention. Cart before the horse, much?
He knows he’s in trouble. Anybody believe that same-sex marriage is the biggest issue facing the country?
“Romney will evolve by November 2012. Or probably right after the GOP convention.”
Romney is Obama 4 years ago.
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the president
described his thought process as an evolution that led him to this place,
Translation = “the election is getting closer and I have to cynically pander to every group I can.”
No one has said Mitt didn’t flip-flop when he finally decided to support the marriage protection amendment. The same one he originally called too extreme. After the damage has been done, he comes around and pretends he has always been for it, after he’s been against it.
You said, “Democrats are the spinners, not Conservative or Republicans.”
Real conservatives don’t have to spin, but we all know that Romney is not a real conservative. And when it comes to family matters like abortion and gay marriage, Mitt is always slow to arrive at the truth and will do anything to hide that fact from the unsuspecting. Attempting to hide that fact is the same play he tried four years ago last election. Four years has not made Mitt’s lie any more true.
Bingo! I’m sure that the gay contingent was holding it over his head and withholding their money until he delivered this.
He was for gay marriage before he was against it before he was for it. Gee, his thought processes do a lot of “evolving.”
116 posts to the photos.
Thank you!
Makes it more likely that Zer0 was to be outed if he didn't pack it in.
Thanks, much appreciated. Sounds good.
yes, all those running will be asked, “Since President Obama supports same sex marriage, do you?” They will have to answer. “How about it Mrs. Claire from Missouri, do you agree with the head of your party?”
That is indeed what Romney said. Then he made executive actions making gay marriage happen, on his own, with no vote taken or law being changed.
If I am wrong, please show me the actions of the legislature showing their action to change the law the SJC found unconstitutional.
Revolving is more like it.
May 17, 2004: Gov. Romney ordered town clerks to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples as per the Supreme Judicial Court’s ruling, 180 days after it was issued, without the legislative action called for by the actual ruling.
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From the article you posted. Goodridge called on the legislature to act, not the governor. It was Romney’s actions and nobody elses.
The US Supreme court can strike a law down, but cannot technically change a law. The MA SJC cannot strike a law down, they can advise, which they did- they advised the legislature to act. They did not, but Romney sent his letter demanding that officials elected by the towns start issuing same sex licenses.
Romney used executive action to enforce a ruling directed at the legislature.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2006/12/romney_spoke_of.html
Here he speaks of “full equality for gays and lesbians”, and this is what he wrote to the Log Cabin Republicans:
http://www.boston.com/news/daily/11/romneyletterbaywindows.pdf
So does “full equality” include marriage, or does “full equality” leave that out?
He’s always been lying his a** off. In 3 and a half years he has been the same chump.
Yes, it's an utter electoral miscalculation by Axelrot -- thus one presumes he had no choice -- although how the piss-poor kabuki actually unraveled smacks more of Valerie Jarrett.
On the plus side (from President Obama's standpoint), this may tend to fire up his left-leaning base. And that could be moderately helpful to him.
But the countervailing point (and this is far more important, in my opinion) is that it is likely to lose important votes for him in swing states. For instance, North Carolina, just Tuesday night, approved an amendment to the state constitution prohibiting same-sex marriage. And the vote was not at all close. In fact, the final tally, I believe, was 61 percent to 39 percent.
Moreover, President Obama has attempted to split the baby on this matter, in a way that is intellectually dishonest, in my opinion: He is "personally" in favor of same-sex marriage; yet he believes that the decision, ultimately, should be left to the individual states. Or so he says, anyway. (Note: President Obama is hardly the first politician to attempt this Solomonic wizardry: Those who dutifully proclaim that they are "personally" opposed to the procedure of abortion, but believe it should be kept legal, are surely first cousins...)
Obama bravely waited for Romney to announce his opposition to gay marriage first. And Romney bravely waited until after the NC vote to announce his decision.
Like peas in a pod.
My view is that marriage itself is between a man and a woman,” the presumptive Republican presidential nominee told reporters. He said he believes that states should be able to make decisions about whether to offer certain legal rights to same-sex couples.
So he is Against it and at the same time he is for it? He will make a great politician. Tell us WHY or STFU. iF the Mittster isn’t intelligent enough to articulate why homosexuality is wrong, maybe he should just go back to doing Olympics. Its really pretty simple Mitt, but you have to have guts to say why.
I guess we all know now who is the “First...well, you know...”
Not that there is anything wrong with that!!!
LOL
so if he is for equality then is he for a man to marry 6 women at once?
I heard yesterday one let wing fool keep repeating how the state should got be in the middle of love or marriage equality, course this is our corrupt biased media like Megyn Kelly or shep smith.
Well equality means everyone and everything, a muslim an now marry 4 women, reduce the age of consent, etc.
The pro homo’s need to be called out on their language and their talking points and need to be asked every time if they support other kinds of marriage when they use the words of civil rights,, equality. etc etc etc.
All he has done is made those on the right fired up to vote and many i have spoken to about this have now said he will not get their vote and many were blacks and hispanics.
Now the GOP needs to get out to black, hispanic, muslim, HIndu, etc communities and tell them if they vote for obama now thhen they are voting to allow homosexuals to marry which in turn lets teachers teach little kids be taught in in schools homosexuality and their unnatural sex.
talked to many blacks and hispanics here in FL and most have said infact 99% have said that they will never vote for him now and most of those have said they will stay at home, a few have said they will now vote for Romney and most hispancs have said they will not vote for him and if Rubio or the woman from NM is the VP then they will vote for Romney.
I actually thought with all of his voter fraud then we had no chance but now this and after taking to many of minorities then i sense we can now win this election
They don’t believe in democracy except as a tool to further their agenda.
The average sheeperal will try to justify what can clearly be pointed out as hypocrisy - “you believe in majority rule here where the majority clearly don’t have the right to rule, but not over here?”.
You have to pull a Prov 26:4-5 on them and point out their bias, their agenda, and then tell them we’ll discuss the merits of your agenda, not the merits of democracy.
I don’t think Obummer expected the backlash that is to come. Everyone I know in my town is outraged. Never in our wildest nightmares would any of us have imagined a sitting President would endorse and promote artificial sodomite marriages - something considered vomitous throughout all history and throughout all cultures. These sick homosexual perverts are going to now see a nation rise up against their celebration of sin.
We've always known he was faggot. Did he finally meet someone he wants to settle down with?
He’s counting on Romney and the GOP to fumble the issue. Romney is not going to make it a major feature of his campaign. He’ll respond with the “I’m personally opposed” line if asked, but won’t hold Obama’s feet to the fire. The media will turn this into a “homophobia” circus, dragging out inflammatory statements from any registered Republican they can find and then putting Romney on the spot as to whether he thinks the comments are appropriate. Because Romney won’t argue the issue on the basis of core values, he will let the media and Obama define the issue. As happened in Canada (where the Conservative Party soft-pedalled its opposition), the failure to seize such an important issue will cost Romney votes on both sides. Those conservatives who want this to be a major campaign issue will scream in frustration at the GOP’s ineptitude and will have yet another reason to stay home in November.
Three reasons (among others) he is doing this:
1) Saul Alinsky tactic, divide Americans
2) He believes in it
3) When he gets thrown out of office, it will allow liberal historians to say he was rejected because of America’s homophobia, not because of his horrible record
Reason #2: Obama Denies the Authority of the Bible
(Graphic material... please use discretion with young children.)
http://youtu.be/OHlelAui5fs
Obamba should have read the Bible instead of rules for radicals.
I just had a thought- what if this is like Dems view on abortion: they have a “personal” view, but it makes no difference, they support through legislation the opposite. Did he actually say he will make sure it is legal throughout the land? What if this is just a trick- what if this is just his “personal” belief, but he will take no action to support it?
Hussein takes time out of his busy golf schedule to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. :)
he was pushed into this by Hollywood and rich left wing donors so now let him suffer through this because the blacks and Hispanics I’ve spoken too have said nearly 99% that they will not vote for him and most will say he’s been a disappointment then the Hispanics have said that if Romney picks like the NM Gov or Rubio or another Hispanic background then they will vote for Romney and the marriage question has done it for them nd for obama.
I want FOX and others to state to these left wing nuts and homosexuals that when they say equality then they must also mean polygamists as equality cannot just go for their kind of marriage but every kind of marriage.
Obama needs to be asked that question too and thank you Hollywood and you left wing radicals. I thought there was no way to win this election but now you nut jobs have only fired up the right, put this issue into the minority communities.
not true around here.
I have kids and they all say there is not one friend of theirs which supports the homo agenda.
The myth about younger and more people support homosexuals is a lie put out by the elitist media and Hollywood.
Of course maybe up in the north east and the west coast that is probably different
I don't expect Romney will "evolve" and support gay marriage before or after the election.
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