Posted on 05/08/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by rarestia
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.
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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
True. That’s why “Daniel” makes no sense. John and Taupin were high when they wrote it and had a final verse where you learn that Daniel is a Vietnam vet. But when they sobered up, they couldn’t remember the lyrics, so they left them out.
Are you sure the radio station wasn’t Radio Havana out of Cuba?
States that this law targets need to start witholding tax payments to the assholes in DC.
Verdict first, trial later.
“Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation.”
Ellison is worried that one of his brothers in Allah might be prevented from carrying out a martyrdom operation.
The way it should work, instead of the feds oppressing the states oppressing the counties oppressing the cities oppressing the citizens,
the citizens should be defending themselves against the city gov’ts who are defending themselves against the counties who are defending themselves against the states who are defending themselves against the feds.
This is not aimed at “blacks over 50”.
It should be renamed to the “Whitey, don’t defend yourself” bill.
And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a hood man
And he shall be Trayvon
In tradition with the family plan
And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a hood man
He shall be Trayvon...
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Trayvon buys his skittles at Seven Eleven,
He eats a lot they say.
He was born a robber to the town,
when the NY Times said gun rights were dead,
and the wars begun today,
Freedom has a new son they say
He shall be Georgie, and he shall be a good man....
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Enjoyed yours, hope you like this addition
Glad to hear that, but that STILL isn’t whom these thugs in congress are aiming at.
If the U.S government is threating to withold funding to states that have “Defend Yourself” type laws, isn’t that bordering on “black mail”? Then again, I’m not surprised at anything they come up with anymore.
If the U.S government is threating to withold funding to states that have “Defend Yourself” type laws, isn’t that bordering on “black mail”? Then again, I’m not surprised at anything they come up with anymore.
To illustrate: You say publically that you will pay X amount of dollars for someone to kill a named individual, see how quick that you are in the crossbar hotel.
To democrats, unborn children aren't worth saving, unwanted newborns aren't worth saving, and our grandparents aren't worth saving. Why would crime victims be any different?
Check this, they’ve already withdrawn their attempt at this law THIS TIME.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/8/democrats-withdraw-trayvon-amendment/
Not because it’s such a terrible law, but for fear of it being ruled out of order via the rules of debate.
From the link above: “The Ellison amendment would have docked federal criminal justice grants to states that have stand-your-ground laws, which allow residents to use deadly force to respond to an attack without first having to retreat.”
Sounds fair to me. No middle man needed - no middle man getting paid to expend his budget on SWAT’s war against dogs.
This is why those grants are in insidious thing. The confiscate money from the citizens of state X, then pay X’s legislators to do things adverse to the freedoms of their own constituents (and the owners of the money) just like in this case! I posted an essay on this one time. This issue doesn’t get nearly the attention it deserves.
It's even WORSE than that. The victim's life isn't worth protecting, but the perp's IS!!
I’m no treyvon fan, the burglary tools and jewelry were from a school incident. Here didn’t have them at the time of his death.
But those items do show a likely larsonous attitude.
LOL - nice Bernie Taupin reference
That's perfectly permissible. The feds would laugh all the way to the bank, because they get to keep money that's not theirs in the first place. Yes, you have to abolish the grants, but you also have to remove that amount from their revenue stream and give it back to the people, who can then vote to send it (all of it, free of federal skim and liberty-slashing strings) to their states to do the stuff that it was to fund, IF THEY WANT TO. The feds, by offering it in this way, have tacitly admitted they have that much excess over the amount necessary to complete Constitutionally mandated federal duties, so their possession of this money proves you've been overtaxed.
One of these days, a mob of treyvon chanting morons is going to go after the wrong target. Then the mod will go nuts when 5 or 6 of their own are “cooling their heals” on the ground when the police show up.
They don't go through the states' hands, but the states could tell their citizens to deduct x-percent from their bills and that state LEO's would protect anyone doing so from federal recourse, by force if necessary.
Also, the payments are sent by check or electronic transfer and must be paid by local banks, staffed by state residents, and some of the banks additional are operating on state charters.
This amendment has been withdrawn by the Democrats. Story at http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/8/democrats-withdraw-trayvon-amendment/
Actually, I was suggesting that when a shooting incident happens(and one will happen) after a mob attack, that the mob people will go nuts on how racist it was.
It goes deeper than that. From my book in progress:
Here is the Vulcan mind-meld translation of the core premise of the modern progressive Left: you have no right to live. By their lights, you are no more than a thing, an animal, or a machine. Therefore, you have no right to the fruits of your labors; you have no right to your own life. You become mere property of the state, a fungible asset to be used, to be disposed of, and ultimately to be eliminated. This premise is, has been, and continues to be central to the justification for the wholesale slaughter of millions of human beings, and the enslavement, impoverishment and torture of hundreds of millions more. You are nothing more than a ‘resource’ at best. Or you are in their way and must be eliminated. There, in a nutshell, are the last 150 years of bad ideas and their practical consequences.
These monsters are spiral-eyed crazy with hate for you and everything you hold dear. There is only one way they can be stopped.
We need to stop assuming that Obama, Congress and the Senate actually understand, believe in and uphold something like the 10th Amendment. When that happens, we may be better able to fully understand them.
AKA “Da Gang Banga Car Jacka Thuggin’ Fo Hoes Protection Act.”
Shouldn’t that read “Lives Saved” have tripled?
The clown from Kalifornia is from Arizona.
One step at a time, but you’re 100% right.
“which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws,”
So the leftist aka progressives tax American citizens to provide government services. Then refuse to provide these services if you do not bow own to them. Perverted logic from the leftist aka progressives. No wonder they defend the perversion of homosexuality.
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