What has he done lately ever for the conservative cause?
Posted on 05/08/2012 9:25:34 AM PDT by xzins
The first USA TODAY/Gallup Swing States Poll since the GOP settled on moderate former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney as its presumptive Presidential nominee shows an interesting dynamic for Romney and the GOP.
After the Republican Party nominated one of the most moderate candidates in the field, enthusiasm for Romney is down among self-identified GOP moderates and Romney’s likely victory or defeat now hinges on “swing states” where Tea Party backed candidates made strong showings in the 2010 Tea Party wave election.
Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin are the swing states Romney needs to win to be elected. Key states, such as Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida that contributed to Obama’s 365 to 173 electoral vote blow-out of the McCain-Palin ticket in 2008 are in play at this time – barely.
Evidence of Romney's problem in Tea Party influenced states is that while Tea Party and conservative-backed office holders are solidifying their popularity, he does not seem to be benefiting from their popularity.
In the state of Michigan, one of Romney’s “home” states where he narrowly won the Republican primary. Romney’s post-primary approval fell and he trails Obama by 6 points or more – Democratic polling firm PPP has Obama leading Romney by 16 in Michigan.
In contrast, Obama’s job approval rating has gone up from 42 percent in September to 50 percent today, and his disapproval rating has dropped from 50 percent to 45 percent.
Michigan's Tea Party backed Governor Rick Snyder's approval rating of 38 percent in September has now hit 50 percent in the state. The Governor's disapproval rating is now down to 36 percent, compared to 46 percent in September.
Tea Party backed Florida Governor Rick Scott, whose “shakeup Tallahassee” agenda cost him some popularity as he made tough calls on the budget, has gone up 10 points recently and is now at 43 percent, statistically the same as Obama’s 43 percent. Romney’s multi-million dollar carpet bombing of Newt Gingrich in Florida gained him exactly 1 point over Obama to place him at 43 percent.
In Pennsylvania, after Rick Santorum dropped out, Romney didn’t run his usual barrage of negative ads. According to the Quinnipiac poll, Romney actually lost five points while running virtually unopposed in the Pennsylvania primary, and now trails Obama 47 percent to 39 percent.
Since March, Obama has gained two points while Romney lost three. Despite campaigning in the state, Romney still has a negative approval rating, with only 35 percent approving and 39 percent disapproving. Obama’s approval rating in Pennsylvania is 51 percent approve to 43 disapprove.
The states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida, were three of the top states where the Tea Party wave swept new constitutional conservative members into Congress. In Florida, four of the seven new Republicans were elected with significant Tea Party support, in Ohio the Tea Party backed candidates contributed five freshmen to the House Republican ranks, and in Pennsylvania four out of the five new Republicans in the delegation were elected with strong Tea Party support.
As Gallup noted, this enthusiasm gap is hurting Romney, “Obama's swing-state prospects also look a bit brighter than Romney's on the basis of voter enthusiasm. More than half of Obama's supporters, 55 percent, are extremely or very enthusiastic about voting in this year's presidential election, up from 49 percent saying this in March. By contrast, 46 percent of Romney's supporters are extremely or very enthusiastic, unchanged from 47 percent in March. Today's figures reflect a reversal from January, when 55 percent of Romney voters were extremely or very enthusiastic, compared with 50 percent of Obama voters.”
In most of the so-called “swing” states, the recent progress made by the GOP has been powered by Tea Party enthusiasm and Tea Party backed candidates. Unfortunately for Romney, while liberal and moderate support for him has predictably waned, the Tea Party enthusiasm that has been winning elections for the GOP in those key “swing states” has yet to rub-off on him.
I reckon the ABO enthusiasm will increase exponentially as we get closer to election day 2012.
Mitt Romney - He’s whatever you want him to be.
“Well with Obama, we will be rid of him in 4 years. If Romney is elected, we will be stuck with Obama-lite for 8 years.”
Excellent way to put it. Voting for Romeny simply kicks the can down the road.
“I reckon the ABO enthusiasm will increase exponentially as we get closer to election day 2012.”
Probably, but always be careful of what you wish for. Romney is every bit a Communist Obama is.
It is hard to get enthusiastic about voting for the lesser of two evils, particularly when you are undecided whether Obama or Romney is the lesser of two evils.
LOL!
Right on the money, Bubba.
And if Romney were to be president, his track record in Massachusetts says he’ll side with Democrats on offensive legislation.
So: Romney + Rinos + Democrats = Liberal agenda.
And no one could stop them.
Thanks. Excellent point you make about the volunteers.
You people are lulling yourself into believing mitt could actually beat obama - he hasn't won one debate - only those the media said he did. In reality it is NONE!
Probably because we conservatives are shallow, low brow neanderthals.
Honestly, Uncle, in my case it's only cause he has a John Edwards hairdo. /sarc
You'll have to kill me to keep me from voting against him.
I’ll vote for Romney in the fall, but I just registered my vote for Newt in the NC primary. Felt good.
BINGO! Lock the thread, we have a winner. Personally I'm planning to ACTUALLY PUT A CLOTHESPIN ON MY NOSE in the voting booth. Yes really.
Great decision.
Lack of support for Romney could blow up at the convention.
If all of our “abo’s” who claim they wouldn’t touch romney with a 10 foot pole would think just a bit, they’d realize not tipping their hand is a good thing.
Since they didn’t like him, there was no point in falling in line til the last second. Then they could have gotten considerable concessions from him.
I’ll never vote for him, but I would vote for a different republican conservative.
Meh, I’m excited about being rid of 0bama and that nest of vipers he surrounds himself with.
The GOP is gonna get an ass-whupin’ in November at the top of the ticket and they have nobody to blame but their own little clique.
I have no sympathy for them.
There is NO guarantee of mitt ousting barry, in fact, what actually what do you think his chances are? Not your wishful thinking but reality?
With Newt there was a 99.9% chance of barry being ousted ALONG with the undoing of obama’s damage from day one and on the Constitution track ALL the way.
This article explained back in December how Romney’s popularity always goes down as people get to know him better. We posted this here and attempted to explain to people how this was likely to happen again. FR seems to be batting 1,000 when it comes to figuring out who and what Romney was and is far in advance of everybody else. We’re not a “fringe” right-wing site, we’re the vastly well-informed canary in the coal mine for the conservative movement.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/overestimating-romney_611846.html
What has he done lately ever for the conservative cause?
YOU people are going to cheer yourselves into 8 years of Romney, and then we’ll have to spend 8 years whining, complaining, and stocking up on ammo.
I supported Newt. Unfortunately so far the voters did not agree with my choice..
Last time I looked Newt suspended his campagn and has said he will support Romney ..I will vote for Newt in the primary..and for the last man standing that can possibly oust Zero in November.
I want Obama out and will support the nominee...
I don’t believe anyone has a lock in this Presidential election..no guarantees that I see.
Then he’s a severe CINO...
Nonsense.
Actually he’s a “Democrat In All BUT Name”.
How could anyone be excited about Mittens? I’m excited about removing Obama from the White House, but my enthusiasm ends there.
The VP would only be window-dressing and totally ignored after he or she served the purpose of getting Mitt elected. Mitt wouldn't get my vote if he named me as his VP choice.
Depends how the economy is doing. Romney and the GOP seem to want to redefine the party as the party that “knows how to fix the economy.” So there’s no point in electing the GOP if the economy happens to be doing good under a Democrat. It’s going to be a big waste of money on a campaign since if the economy’s doing bad, voters will switch votes to the other party anyway. Which is why they should be spending the campaign talking about all the actual planks of conservatism, and not this whole “fixing the economy” message which sounds a lot like “our socialism is better than their socialism.” Or do they want a party that can only win when the economy happens to be doing bad and never any other time?
Face it, he’s not an excitiing guy. Even if he was a hard core conservative he wouldn’t be exciting.
Our source of excitement will have to be getting rid of Obama.
I coined a term for them: DIABLO — Democrat In All But Label Only.
When it comes down to it, I will probably hold my nose (and my gag reflex) and vote for Romney over Obama. I can at least hope that Romney isn’t a hard core socialist intent upon the destruction of America. I know that Obama is.
The 2012 election is going to be a repeat of the 1996 election. After Clinton revulsion caused the nationwide Republican landslide in 1994, no one thought that Clinton could get elected dog catcher two years later. Then the Republicans nominated Bob Dole.
Bob Dole was a war hero. I respected Bob Dole and had no problem voting for him over Clinton, but he was a weak presidential candidate that got nominated mostly because it was his turn.
Obama is going to get re-elected. Hopefully the Republicans will take back the Senate. Maybe there will be enough conservative Republicans in the Senate who will man up and filibuster Obama’s far left wing judicial nominees. I’m not holding my breath.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
well, we’d better get excited dang quick.
We need to go into this election with great enthusiasm... every day Obama proves more and more that he is a serious danger to this country.
What is the point in continuing to bemoan Romney?
Let’s look at him in a positive way.
He has a name, also.
He’s not ABO any more. He’s my candidate name of Mitt Romney.
Newt is still going to Aug/Fl, but not campaigning, so his support of Romney was from other ‘mitt reports’ and Newt’s support was vague but throughout his debates/campaign was for defeating obama, while mitt’s was on trashing Newt and taking him out.
Nothing is set in stone till Aug and my support for Newt will stay the same until August but always against Mitt. Everyone/because of media bias, has declared mitt a winner since the beginning and now many just continues eating their propaganda - even though they ‘supposedly’ know better. It’s the media that wants to/has given us our candidate or rather they think they have.
The only way he could lose my vote is if he DID name you as vice president. :)
There are also concerns about the huge national debt and annual deficits of over $1 trillion a year since Obama took office. He has amassed more debt in four years than Bush did in 8 years. Our entitlement programs are unsustainable. They will bankrupt us. Property values have declined precipitously with millions of housing foreclosures. The unemployment rate for the young is the highest in over 60 years. Our credit rating has declined. Government regulation has stifiled business and the use of our own natural energy resources.
I could go on and on about the issues. Romney must have a clear message and one focussed on just a few things. In addition to jobs and the economy, I would go after the debt and deficits and the hugely unpopular Obamacare. You can infuse discussion of these issues with the conservative philosophy of limited government, individual liberty, fiscal responsibity, and national security.
We’re not excited. We won’t get excited.
So, the issue becomes putting conservatives in the house and senate.
That’s another reason I can easily vote for Goode and not worry about the Obama presidency.
With conservatives in the house and senate, the agenda of Obama will be dead on arrival. Romney, on the other hand, will gain a bit of party loyalty, and he’ll get his stupid liberal agenda passed. When the conservatives won’t work with him, he’ll overturn to the rinos & democrats, and he’ll get his agenda passed that way, too.
So, in reality, a radical, liberal, social corporatist like Romney is actually a bigger threat.
Conservatives in Congress is the key.
Romney doesn’t care much about the Tea Party either.
If you vote for Romney, that's about what you will be doing.
Another reason to not vote for this socialist.
The bailouts were completely unnecessary. All that would have been needed was for the government to guarantee post filing financing.
If anyone recalls, the bailouts were sold as a way to avoid Chapter 11 bankruptcy, but they filed anyway.
The governments cash was nothing more than Obama's way of buying a seat at the table to protect his union buds, screw over the bondholders and control the companies for the balance of his presidency.
If you are really a conservative and not one of the Mittens who come here to sing the praises of Romney, I can assure you that you'd like my political views far, far better than Romney's. I'd actually attract conservatives to vote for me and not just because I'm not Obama (which appears to be Mitt's only redeeming qualification). Like Sarah Palin whose political views probably most closely mirror mine, I can say conservative things like I believe them because I really do.
I'm absolutely confident that Romney won't name me as VP, so you won't have any internal conflicts to overcome. ;-)
Me, too, but I won't vote for Romney. [That joke was blatantly stolen from another FReeper who I would attribute if I could remember who it was.]
The race is between a Democrat (Romney) and a Communist (Obama).
Thanks for the ‘update.’
no, the race is between a 3rd way, social corporatist and a communist.
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