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Jobs Few, College Grads Flock to Unpaid Internships
New York Times ^ | 05/07/2012 | By STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Posted on 05/07/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

This was common during and just after the Carter administration. Pay the people.


21 posted on 05/07/2012 7:05:41 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This young lady probably voted for Obama, and.....got exactly what she voted for. Zero job opportunities!!! Any young person that supports Obama for re-election is either, insane, high on drugs, drinking too much Kool-Aid or just plain dumb and stupid. Young folks, wise up, Anybody But Obama, ABO.


22 posted on 05/07/2012 7:11:29 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Read an interesting angle on the entire “unpaid internship” thing.

It is another way of enforcing economic gentrification - only the children of the upper middle class and wealthy can afford to take the long term unpaid internships that are often the only way to a career in some fields.

23 posted on 05/07/2012 7:12:25 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

which is why the unions have set their crosshairs on unpaid internships.


24 posted on 05/07/2012 7:15:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hodar

It is extortion. My sister worked in a field where this was expected (advertising). My Dad told her to get a job at a small newspaper and make some money while learning the ropes.

Unpaid internships taking advantage of the students.


25 posted on 05/07/2012 7:15:16 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Unpaid internships taking advantage of the students.

"Lincoln Freed the Slaves. He didn't say anything about the Interns."


26 posted on 05/07/2012 7:16:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Free_in_Alabama
"What an idiot!"

Oh, I agree! The "Diane von Furstenberg" brand has name recognition even to me. And I'm about as oblivious to fashion as anyone. Yes, "I did an internship for Diane von Furstenberg but I quit because the work was too hard and they kept telling me to do things I didn't want to do" is going to land her a good job. Well, maybe if she wants to go to work for the government it will land her a good job.

"She often worked 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., five days a week. “They had me running out to buy them lunch,” she said. “They had me cleaning out the closets, emptying out the past season’s items.”"

Seriously? She was running errands and cleaning closets for 12 hours every day? I doubt it. (If she did, she has the skills and stamina to make a small fortune with a housekeeping service, they sure don't come cheap.)

27 posted on 05/07/2012 7:16:39 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t Obama make unpaid internships (if you’re not a non-profit) illegal? Somebody help me here—that was part of his early innovation-killers and a sop to the union bosses.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 7:27:19 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: RWGinger
Why would any company pay one of their employees to babysit/ 'supervise” an unpaid person?

In theory, for two reasons. One, to take a closer look at a novice who might be a god fit for the company later on in a paid position.

And two, as a service (good deed, if you will) to the profession.

And the second reason is quite important. I spent a good number of years as an urban school teacher. Most of us took student teachers for that second reason.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 7:30:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

She is an idiot. A non paid internship in order to get her foot in the door and she ruined even that. Suck it up, do the best job ever and other doors will open. Instead she complains, makes the news, and proves why no one should ever hire her. Entitlement attitude!


Yeah. How dare someone get upset for working and not being paid for it! If she would just keep her mouth shut, doors will open to other non-paying jobs.


30 posted on 05/07/2012 7:48:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

I had never heard of this “intern” idea until my daughter graduated from college. It worked for her as she got an intern job with a major publishing house in her last semester. They did pay her at a minimum wage. They liked her work so much they hired her after a few months of “intern” work. She graduated from an “Ivy” as an English Literature major-which does not seem to be a favored major on this site!


31 posted on 05/07/2012 7:51:28 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Leaning Right

excellent point
did the student teachers actually get to teach?


32 posted on 05/07/2012 8:00:38 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: RWGinger
did the student teachers actually get to teach?

Yes, absolutely. A student teacher's experience was divided into three phases.

For the first couple of weeks, the student teacher would just sit in the back of the classroom and observe. During study halls, he/she would help individual students with problems.

Then for the next couple of weeks, the student teacher would teach one, then two classes while the regular teacher sat in the back of the classroom and observed. At the end of the day the student teacher and regular teacher would meet and discuss how the lesson went.

Finally, the student teacher would teach two classes on his/her own. The regular teacher would be out of the classroom (giving the student teacher an opportunity to "own" the schedule). But the regular teacher would be close by in case of trouble.

Now, I must say this. As I mentioned before, I taught in an urban school. It was a high school. So "teaching" also meant breaking up major, violent fights. What a mess that was. It was a real eye-opener for the student teachers from the suburbs!

33 posted on 05/07/2012 8:18:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“She graduated from an “Ivy” as an English Literature major-which does not seem to be a favored major on this site!”

LOL - to say the least.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 8:22:04 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Moose4

Yes, I see your point, she probably is being exploited unfairly. A different story had she been paid.


35 posted on 05/07/2012 8:23:52 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Free_in_Alabama
She is an idiot. A non paid internship in order to get her foot in the door and she ruined even that. Suck it up, do the best job ever and other doors will open. Instead she complains, makes the news, and proves why no one should ever hire her. Entitlement attitude!

I agree with you. Her name would be on my list of people who would create trouble if ever hired or even interviewed.

If I was a manager thinking of hiring, I would subject interns to exactly this. Find out which interns have a "prima donna" attitude and which are eager to work and make a good impression. After a few weeks, I would let the prima donnas go, and move the workers to doing more interesting things.

36 posted on 05/07/2012 9:07:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

The professions mentioned are all dominated by leftists. Now the heads full of mush know the rest of the story without having to work in North Korea or China.


37 posted on 05/07/2012 9:14:05 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind

Apprenticeships bad. Internships good. Stupid college degrees good.

You figure it out. I sure as hell can’t.


38 posted on 05/07/2012 9:17:48 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: RWGinger

-—as she is giving coffee out she could pick the brains of all those who take coffee

she could ask to sit quietly in on planning projection and trend meetings——

I graduated from engineering school in 1984, but wanted to go into graphic design. My first job was with a graphics supply company which sold giant stat cameras.

I quickly learned more about the cameras than the lazy salesmen. When the salesmen screwed up an installation, I would often get sent out to clean up the mess.

I brought along my portfolio of dummy ads, and after putting out the fire, asked the owner to take a look at my portfolio. I was hired 6 months later by a guy who was impressed by the neatness of my portfolio.

I have since won international graphic design awards.

I have spent the last few years starting up a side apparel business, simply by reinvesting meager initial profits. The industry is brutal. Margins are slim. But it is possible to succeed.

She should be delighted with her crappy internship. All you need is a foot in the door.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 9:36:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Leaning Right

if your ‘ interns’ were teaching classes then that school were violating lABOR DEPT LABOR LAWS
which state that unpaid interns CANNOT be used as a substitute for a regular employee and can NOT do work which is of immediate benefit to the employer.

I guess your school was lucky not to get caught and fined.

Stupid rules?


40 posted on 05/07/2012 12:16:34 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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