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Falklands: Argentina ambassador calls for Britain to hand back 'colonial enclave'
Telegraph UK ^

Posted on 05/06/2012 10:31:22 AM PDT by Perdogg

Alicia Castro tried to pull Argentina's immediate neighbours into the dispute, claiming UK diplomatic and business relations could be damaged if the islands were not handed over to Buenos Aires.

She said Las Malvinas – Argentina's name for the Falklands – would be better off if they cut their ties with the UK.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; falklands; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 05/06/2012 10:31:26 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

when pigs fly


2 posted on 05/06/2012 10:32:50 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Perdogg

Would a stern “No” be enough? If not, carpet bombing of Buenos Aires might certainly suffice.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 10:35:59 AM PDT by sagar
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To: yldstrk
No other response needed!
4 posted on 05/06/2012 10:36:31 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: WellyP

yep


5 posted on 05/06/2012 10:39:15 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Perdogg

Argentine Armed Forces were better trained and equipped back in ‘82 compared to what they got right now. Since then, their country went “pacificist” and now they’re demanding the Brits to hand back the islands to them? This time, the Brits are veterans of both Afganistan and Iraq wars. So if there’s a war, this time, it wouldn’t even last 24 hours despite the Brits making considerable cuts in their defense budget.


6 posted on 05/06/2012 10:40:33 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: sagar
Would a stern ?No? be enough? If not, carpet bombing of Buenos Aires might certainly suffice.

Hey, hey....that's going a bit too far. I love Buenos Aires and I went there last year. It's far more European than Paris.

7 posted on 05/06/2012 10:42:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Perdogg

...and has the Argentina ambassador asked the islanders what they want?


8 posted on 05/06/2012 10:46:08 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Hey, hey....that’s going a bit too far. I love Buenos Aires and I went there last year. It’s far more European than Paris.”

Okay, no carpet bombing. Just winning-hearts-and-minds campaign. wink, wink


9 posted on 05/06/2012 10:46:23 AM PDT by sagar
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To: Perdogg

Well, I can’t say that’s a very surprising thing....

Southern hemisphere’s just getting into winter now, so if the Argies beat on this little tin pot for support for three or four months, they’ll be able to launch their “Liberation” attacks before there’s anybody in Washington with even the faintest interest pulling the UK’s arse out of this bonfire by sending US troops to do what the Brits can no longer handle.

Might as well cut to the chase and hand the entire bloody South Atlantic over to whatever Banana Republic goofball next decides to have an attack of Napoleon Complex.

(Spit on the ground and walk away)


10 posted on 05/06/2012 10:48:37 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((257 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Perdogg

This is a total distraction from the domestic problems being caused by their socialist policies.


11 posted on 05/06/2012 10:48:45 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: MinorityRepublican

the citizens on the falklands are british and want to remain so. plus falkland defenses are much stronger than ‘82. and omoron would send any support (not as he hates the british) to those ilslands in the indian ocean he nemed in his dumbass speech.


12 posted on 05/06/2012 10:51:29 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Perdogg
or... what???
13 posted on 05/06/2012 10:53:34 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Perdogg

Here’s a funny video that the Argentinian government just released about the Falkland islands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lSlyQp9NAoM

It’s hard to say who’s right on this one. It makes little sense for the British to have political control over a couple of islands just off the coast of Argentina. They should sell it to the Argentinians for a reasonable price and put this matter to rest.


14 posted on 05/06/2012 10:56:42 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Yes, winter is setting in and weather around the Falklands is going from the usual bad to down right UHLY!.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 10:57:19 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“So if there’s a war..”

The Argentinians won’t attack. The military is not running their country anymore.

They will stick to psych warfare painting the British as the oppressive, greedy colonial power in the international stage. In the end, the British will probably hand over the islands willingly because they have gone socialist and those islands probably don’t mean that much to them.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 11:14:16 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Perdogg.
...claiming UK diplomatic and business relations could be damaged if the islands were not handed over to Buenos Aires.
If Cameron were worth a $h!+, he'd bring the UK ambassador home from Argentina for consultation, and have the rest of the UK diplomatic mission pack up everything, then bring them home and break relations.

Or do it my way, and the Argentine leader would choke on her meal or die of some other misadventure, or of natural causes, kinda sudden like.


17 posted on 05/06/2012 11:19:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Under Prime Minister David Cameron? I doubt it. But surely the next one.


18 posted on 05/06/2012 11:20:15 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Perdogg

Where is the ‘General Belgrano’ today?


19 posted on 05/06/2012 11:24:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Guam and the Northern Marianas: Give them Back!


20 posted on 05/06/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
They should sell it to the Argentinians for a reasonable price and put this matter to rest.

I agree. If Argentina refuse to buy, then I'll offer to pay for the lease of the Falklands for the next 99 years. Then Argentina can claim the Falklands by 2111.

21 posted on 05/06/2012 11:35:15 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Perdogg
I always have to laugh when I see one flavor of colonialism condemned (English) in favor of another flavor of colonialism (Spanish), especially when the horrible, indefensible element is...colonialism!
22 posted on 05/06/2012 11:36:37 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: BenLurkin
Where is the ‘General Belgrano’ today?


23 posted on 05/06/2012 11:39:58 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Perdogg
"Falklands: Argentina ambassador calls for Britain to hand back 'colonial enclave'"

Didn't they learn their lesson back in 1982?

Reminds me of that age-old adage: "the more things change, the more things stay the same."

24 posted on 05/06/2012 11:46:29 AM PDT by tom h
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To: BarnacleCenturion
...and those islands probably don’t mean that much to them.

That was until they discovered oil...

Falklands oil

25 posted on 05/06/2012 11:50:28 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Perdogg

From what I have read, there are NO Argentinians living there, and those people who do live there (some 3,000 odd folks) want to remain with Britain. I guess the Argentine government is in trouble and is prepared to loose another Cruiser to the British.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 12:02:05 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Perdogg
Do they really want to go there again???
27 posted on 05/06/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: GeronL

Spot on. Hence the stealing of Spanish corporations. Bolivia got into the game too last week.


28 posted on 05/06/2012 12:13:08 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Argentina has also gone full blown protectionism and cronyism, which is hitting their economy hard also.


29 posted on 05/06/2012 12:15:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: vette6387
There are more dead Argentinians buried in the military cemetery in the Falklands, than there are living Argentinians in the Falklands.

The leaders of Argentina refused to repatriate their own war dead, even though Britain offered free transport. Britain provided all the deceased with full military honors. Argentina is using their graves as pawns in this political theater. Disgraceful...

30 posted on 05/06/2012 12:18:48 PM PDT by donozark (Marg Helgenberger! Wherever you are! What the hell do I do with all these DNA samples you requested?)
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To: vette6387

“those people who do live there (some 3,000 odd folks) want to remain with Britain”

Nothing odd about that.


31 posted on 05/06/2012 12:22:33 PM PDT by tumblindice ("A gramme is better than a damn," said Lenina ... from behind her hands. "I wish I had my soma!")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They already have Obama calling the Islands the Malvinas. He doesn’t represent all Americans when he takes that tack but that’s not what the world sees. Soon every 3rd world nation in the UN will be clamoring for England to give them up and if Obama is still in office,God forbid,he will come out and say something stupid about sanctions.


32 posted on 05/06/2012 12:22:48 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GeronL

Cronyism has been there since at least Peron. They’ve defaulted on their debt twice. They don’t really care what others think. As i said Bolivia is in their camp and there’s always the specter of Venezuela which has purchased arms from Russia. I know that they likely won’t be able to use them effectively but if they’re powerful enough they may not need be all that efficient.


33 posted on 05/06/2012 12:26:31 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Perdogg
Since the citizens of the Falkland Islands most definitely DO NOT WANT TO BE ARGENTINIAN! So its kinda settled point.
34 posted on 05/06/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: BarnacleCenturion

With 8.3 to as high as 60 billions barrels os oil sitting under the island the Brits aren’t going anywhere soon!


35 posted on 05/06/2012 12:35:27 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: UKrepublican

Apparently so.


36 posted on 05/06/2012 12:36:18 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They are finding oil & gas deposits in the waters around the Falkland Islands & the Argentines are to stupid to make a bussiness deal .

Hint for the Argie idiots , exploiting the new petrolem discoveries means you have to have a equipment .

Shipping & staging the stuff from Argentina is a lot more intelligent than shipping from Britian , that means Argentinians get good paying jobs , Argentina gets to build oil refineries & provide support ie everything from Ace bandages to yo-yo’s.

The Argentine economy gets jumpstarted & nobody gets shot .


37 posted on 05/06/2012 12:45:45 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They are finding oil & gas deposits in the waters around the Falkland Islands & the Argentines are to stupid to make a bussiness deal .

Hint for the Argie idiots , exploiting the new petrolem discoveries means you have to have a equipment .

Shipping & staging the stuff from Argentina is a lot more intelligent than shipping from Britian , that means Argentinians get good paying jobs , Argentina gets to build oil refineries & provide support ie everything from Ace bandages to yo-yo’s.

The Argentine economy gets jumpstarted & nobody gets shot .


38 posted on 05/06/2012 12:46:18 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Perdogg

39 posted on 05/06/2012 12:49:04 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
The Argentine economy gets jumpstarted & nobody gets shot .

On the other hand, Argentina's intransigence creates a great opportunity for Uruguay.

40 posted on 05/06/2012 12:51:18 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Theoria

So where did you find that map?


41 posted on 05/06/2012 12:57:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BarnacleCenturion
About as much sense as France has controlling 2 very small islands (St Pierre and Miquelon) south of Newfoundland but there is no dispute going on between Canada and France over them. There was in regards to the economic zone but that was settled some time ago now. The two islands are way closer to the coast than the Falklands are to Argentina. To give you an idea what these two little pissant islands got in terms of economic claims look at this map. The French wanted way more but this is what they got.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 12:59:31 PM PDT by xp38
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To: okie01

Queen Cristina just nationalized oil companies Repsol and YPF. No one in their right mind is going to put a dime in Argie!

Uruguay is looking good!


43 posted on 05/06/2012 1:14:43 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Thats a nice theory but the Brits have nil ability to project force compared to what they had in 82. - and that wasn’t much either.

Fortunately for them the Argentinian military isn’t up to much more than putting out a brush fire right now


44 posted on 05/06/2012 2:29:01 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: MinorityRepublican
What, have you been hearing Charly García lately? ;)

No bombardeen Buenos Aires [YouTube]

45 posted on 05/06/2012 2:37:14 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: sagar

The carpet bombing of Buenos Aires would be a crime against humanity. It is one of the world’s great cities. Even the Nazis didn’t carpet bomb Paris. Hitler wanted to do that for revenge, but cooler heads prevailed.


46 posted on 05/06/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax
Cooler heads prevailed? Who exactly overruled the Fuhrer?

Hitler spared Paris only because the French gave up so quickly.

47 posted on 05/06/2012 2:49:02 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"...It makes little sense for the British to have political control over a couple of islands just off the coast of Argentina..." Gee, why don't we take back Cuba? After all it used to belong to the U.S.! Oh, wait...Argentina became a unified nation in 1862 and was not in existence until AFTER the British claimed the Falkland Islands in 1833. Oh, wait...the people of the Falkland Islands speak English and have voted to be part of Great Britain. It's called 'self-determination'. Argentina has no legal claim to the islands - zip, zero, nada, none! Those islands are more than 250 miles out in the south Atlantic Ocean. Per Wikipedia: The Falkland Islands (English pronunciation: /ˈfɒlklənd/ or English pronunciation: /ˈfɔːlklənd/; Spanish: Islas Malvinas) are an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean, located more than 250 nautical miles (460 km; 290 mi) east of the coast of mainland South America...The islands are a self-governing British Overseas Territory, with the United Kingdom responsible for their defence and foreign affairs. Controversy exists over the Falklands' original discovery and subsequent colonisation by Europeans. At various times there have been French, British, Spanish, and Argentine settlements. Britain re-established its rule in 1833, yet the islands continue to be claimed by Argentina. In 1982, following Argentina's invasion of the islands, the two-month-long undeclared Falklands War between both countries resulted in the withdrawal of all Argentine forces. Despite its defeat, Argentina still pursues its claim; however, UK policy supports the islanders' self-determination to remain British citizens.
48 posted on 05/06/2012 2:54:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Not me in this blog, but I have come across it in my travels.
49 posted on 05/06/2012 2:55:09 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Perdogg
As what usually happens. Can Britain afford the Falklands?

'Britain’s budget for defending the Falklands plummeted from £143million in 2005-06 to £69million in 2010-11.'

Countries ebb and flow. That is the nature of it. Demographics will change America, the UK, and the economic disorder will change the world.

If Britain wants to change its priorities, that would be a good thing. But, when the getting was good, they didn't make the necessary changes. They might be a step slow, but they are still many steps ahead of US when it comes to austerity.

50 posted on 05/06/2012 3:06:29 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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