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[MN] GOP leaders scrap roofless stadium plan, set end-of-session path
Politics in Minnesota ^ | May 3, 2012 | by Briana Bierschbach

Posted on 05/04/2012 8:37:57 AM PDT by topher

An 11th-hour Republican Vikings stadium plan that would have paid for the state’s share with general obligation bonds was declared dead late Thursday morning, and in its wake House GOP leaders pledged to hold a long-awaited floor vote next Monday on the stadium bill authored by Rep. Morrie Lanning and Sen. Julie Rosen. House leaders said they also hope to vote on their 2012 bonding bill Monday.

GOP leaders said that serious questions about using general obligation bonds to pay for the state’s portion of a new stadium for the Minnesota Vikings have forced them to drop the plan, which they floated as a possible end-of-session path just two days earlier. They will now move full-speed ahead with votes on a separate bonding bill and the stadium proposal negotiated between the team, city of Minneapolis and lawmakers, sketching out an end-of-session map that will involve lengthy floor debates and little negotiating with DFL Gov. Mark Dayton.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; funding; minnesota; nfl; stadium; vikings; ziggytax
The GOP plan to float bonds is now dead. That leaves only Democratic Governor Mark Dayton's plan of legalizing more gambling in Minnesota to pay for this.

It is unclear the new stadium will be funded.

If not, will the Minnesota Vikings move to LA?

1 posted on 05/04/2012 8:38:07 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Fine. If the private sector can't or wont pay for a stadium. Then don't do it. Obviously, they know the economic conditions and environment better than the local mandarins.
2 posted on 05/04/2012 8:41:57 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: topher

I have told my representatives to vote no on this.

If they want I’ll help the bastards pack.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 8:42:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: topher

I hope there is no Federal money involved.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: topher

Los Angeles “VIKINGS”? That’s as silly as the Utah “JAZZ”.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 8:45:08 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: topher

LA already stole the Lakers from them.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 8:46:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: topher
An 11th-hour Republican Vikings stadium plan...

We are truly lost.

Politicians determining the future of a private enterprise in a free market society.

Why do we go on kidding ourselves about what type of government we tote in this country?

I know it's a state issue however it's a nationwide state issue.

7 posted on 05/04/2012 8:46:53 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: topher

You’ve gotta love the paradigm...you pay for my stadium, I make millions from using it, and you can pick up the dregs through taxing beer sales, etc.

If it’s a losing enterprise...you pay...I still make money.

If it’s a winning enterprise...you still pay, and I make even more money. And you get to brag that your felons are more talented than other folks’ felons.

Suckers!!


8 posted on 05/04/2012 8:47:30 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: dfwgator

L.A. “Lakers”. That’s another name thst should have been changed. Minnesota has Lakes. L.A. has Barrios.


9 posted on 05/04/2012 8:48:13 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Well, the Los Angeles “Lakers” originally were the Minneapolis Lakers. They seem to have fared pretty well.


10 posted on 05/04/2012 8:48:40 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: topher
If not, will the Minnesota Vikings move to LA?

Don't let the kickoff hit you in the a$$...

11 posted on 05/04/2012 8:48:51 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I always thought a “Laker” was somebody from LA. So from that perspective the name kind of make sense.

And at least they actually play in LA, unlike the “Los Angeles” Angels.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 8:50:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: topher
It would be a damn shame if the team owner was forced to pay for his own stadium. /s

It's also amusing that the scumbag poles are doing everything they can to avoid it going to a direct vote of the people as required by city law (on city funding over 10 million.)

13 posted on 05/04/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: topher

That they are even entertaining spending public funds on boondoggles like this just illustrates how out of control government is.

Time for the NFL to be run like a business Completely.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 8:51:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: dfwgator

Looks like the Vikings will be next. NFL would like them to move to L.A. because it’s the second largest tv market in the nation. If not Vikings, then Chargers. But one way or other, L.A. will get a NFL team by the end of this decade.


15 posted on 05/04/2012 8:53:39 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: headstamp 2
Time for the NFL to be run like a business Completely.

That all depends on the dictat of The Obama wanna-be Lord Goodell. Citizens are best off questioning neither of them.

16 posted on 05/04/2012 8:57:57 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It will be long before the end of this decade. They are already putting the finishing “fix” on a new state of the art Stadium.


17 posted on 05/04/2012 8:58:28 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Da Coyote
There is the claim this will create jobs.

But if it creates one $50,000/year job, the cost of that job is probably around $1 million.

Politicans will get their kickbacks from this funding, and the owner will get his stadium.

Louisiana wasted lots and lots of money on the Superdome. I am sure that if Louisiana had that money in the bank today, it would not be as financially strapped.

18 posted on 05/04/2012 9:03:37 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

How about the San Antonio Hombres? lol

The last owner, Red McCombs wanted to move them to his home area.. then Zygi coughed up big dough.. and now, once they build a stadium, taxpayers will be paying that one back for years..


19 posted on 05/04/2012 9:10:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: headstamp 2

the pro-stadium parrots will point out that MN bailed out Northwest Airlines 3 times.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 9:17:10 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: MinorityRepublican

how many stadiums do they have already have in LA now?


21 posted on 05/04/2012 9:20:01 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: topher
What unique about the MN situation is that you have a brand new, and beautiful OUTDOOR stadium for baseball (Target Field)..and they want to build an enclosed stadium for football.

I cna't wait for the Twins to get back to the World series....we may yet see the whole thing cancelled because of a blizzard..

22 posted on 05/04/2012 9:20:45 AM PDT by ken5050 (FRACK Obama!!!)
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To: TurboZamboni

They have the Coliseum which is being turned over to USC. The Rams and Raiders played there before they left town, but it wouldn’t get to first base with what is demanded of an NFL Stadium today.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 9:29:07 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: EGPWS
Politicians determining the future of a private enterprise in a free market society.

The NFL is not a private enterprise in a free market society. It is a cartel in a crony capitalism society.

Pro sports enjoy antitrust exemptions that are not enjoyed by other private enterprises.

24 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:34 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Keep in mind Roger Goodell got the gig as NFL Commish because he did such a fantastic job in his prior role. He was the guy who held the gun to the heads of local officials to get public financing for stadiums, under threat of franchise relocation.

That being said, where is LA going to come up with the money to build one?


25 posted on 05/04/2012 9:45:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think the team to move to LA will be the Buffalo Bills. The economy and demographics of Western New York continue to crater. They only remain due to the loyalty of owner Ralph Wilson, and he’s 88.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 9:48:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: topher

And if the Vikings move to LA, who will notice? The only thing that will happen is the CA taxpayers will be further screwed by the politicians.

There will be a lot of MN residents relieved they aren’t stuck with this dinosaur of a stadium. However, the MN politicians will keep spending to make it seem like the new stadium was bought. [Where’s it written that taxpayers MUST fund privately owned sports franchises and provide them with stadiums?]


27 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:56 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t know but Buffalo Bills is probably a better fit for Toronto. Hell, they already play in Toronto once every year now.


28 posted on 05/04/2012 10:25:38 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh there’s money in L.A. Probably a billionaire will build a stadium. Or maybe by one of those Casinos.


29 posted on 05/04/2012 10:29:00 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ken5050

One the feeblest arguments for this is that they need a new stadium so they can afford to field a better team.

Same argument the Twins made. The Twins have gotten worse ever year since they moved in.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 10:56:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Buckeye McFrog
where is LA going to come up with the money to build one?

same place they think they're going to get superhighspeedmoonbeamchoochoo $. (Uncle Sham's "stash")

31 posted on 05/04/2012 11:19:01 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Maybe Rush is right with his prediction all the concussion lawsuits coming soon will kill the NFL anyway when the next John Edwards comes to town .

Trial lawyers will get rich and pay to elect more dems and then the teams will fold one by one...and the governors can blame Bush, real capitalism, and global warming. goobermint loves to “invest” in failed business models- they never pay any price for being wrong.(taxpayers do)


32 posted on 05/04/2012 12:00:35 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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