Skip to comments.What does the fall of the welfare state look like?
Posted on 05/04/2012 7:38:57 AM PDT by MNDude
I'm sure everyone knows that the USA is heading over an economic cliff sometime whether sooner or later.
Although it's already starting to happen in Europe, the end result is still uncharted waters.
Until recent years, the vast majority of humanity did not have the concept of having to do nothing because their government would take care of them.
Some of the things to come is very predictable--lots of angry members of the entitled class will riot and burn things, blah blah blah, as soon as their payments start running out. But after that? Then what shape will things take?
Does anyone know which country best resembles the future of USA? It'd be interesting to see what gets cut first in a near complete collapse in the line of welfare, social security, pension payments, prisons, etc.
We are doing what we can. We’re paying debt down aggressively and moving back into our underwater home to repair it and get ready to live in it or rent it long term.
I’m educating myself for a better career.
Hub is about to retire, but for some reason, I doubt we will have his military retirement forever — I just think in a collapse, it will be GONE.
I want to do more — but there’s only so much you can do when your’e being taxed to death. I try to buy extra food and supplies whenver I can add them. Lately I feel the need to stock up on basic antibiotics and medical supplies.
I’m thankful we’re all healthy and have no huge chronic illnesses, yet.Also trying to take good care of my health, get my weight down, etc.
And praying that one day this country will wake up and DO THE RIGHT FREAKING THING — but I’m not holding out.
MIL is selling the farm and land out in the country. Tried to convince her not to ...but she’s a non-thinking, non-caring Democrat who doesn’t have an ounce of sense in her head.
black and white and red all over.
We do have 2A and many states have the castle law. In our collapse, we will at least give us the tools to fight the zombies. But it’s the Federales that of most concern.
It looks like "prosperity."
when the house is losing, it enlarges its game. That's why a global government is inevitable: not because it's a good idea; and not because George Soros wants to rule the world; but because the only way for the game to go on is to add more tables and get more chips into the hands of more players.
But if you're one of those who doesn't want to play, you'll wind up in a ghetto.
This, naturally, concerns our debtors. The SDR is a clever shot at a fix: create a new, fiat currency and use it to support an economy as the dollar once did. The cost, of course, is the United States position of economic leadership in the world. Oh, well still be the workhorse. We just wont own all the stock. In this round of poker, weve folded, but the house may extend us some margin in order to make whole our competitors. Instead of the US working its way out as it always has, its being subsumed into a socialistic international financial order that will hinder its ability to be productive and will likely worsen our debt picture. Think of the tail wagging the dog. Its a very sophisticated form of slavery, debt is.
Detroit. Next question.
I have always felt that any future American Civil War Redux will most likely make the first look like kids play. You want to see what very likely could lay in America's not to distant future; just go back and watch reruns of the nightly news stories on the break up of Yugoslavia. You can amp up the violence about 10 fold, too.
Instead of wanting to break it apart, both sides want to keep it together, with their ideology in place. After the fact we will have one of two countries taking the current US's place in the world. The first is a Constitutional based republic where every man has an equal right to try to succeed, with minimal government interference. The other is a Socialist dictatorship, where one can only succeed as far as the ruling political class allow them.
If I'm around, I know which one I will strive for, and which one I will do what ever it takes to keep from coming into existence.
Add what you said to term limits and I think we can save the world....
At the least, America.
I think that country was Chile, but it could have been Peru.
All too many of the “elected opportunist” will make a timely exit and set up shop elsewhere.
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