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1 posted on 04/29/2012 7:06:08 AM PDT by John W
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We should be more like Europe. What could go wrong?


2 posted on 04/29/2012 7:09:01 AM PDT by ecomcon
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Whaaa?

Besides the obvious - doesn’t denying early care just create bigger expenses in the long run? Isn’t that what “they” say?


3 posted on 04/29/2012 7:09:46 AM PDT by Principled
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Interesting... Perhaps the Police and Firefighters and other professionals should decide to withhold their services from these “doctors”.


4 posted on 04/29/2012 7:10:19 AM PDT by The Working Man
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What about denying costly medical treatment to homosexuals with AIDS?

Or just to homosexuals in general because of their high risk sexual proclivities?

If smokers and fat people are at risk so are homos.


5 posted on 04/29/2012 7:13:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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Even if it is help with smoking cessation or weight loss? It isn’t healthy people who need a doctor, but those who are sick.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 7:16:29 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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Honestly this is all just an inevitable consequence of people being able to make health decisions with other having the pay for the results. Something has to give.


7 posted on 04/29/2012 7:17:02 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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I could possibly support disincentives for smokers regarding health care (higher health insurance premiums,for example) and might support similar disincentives for people who are obese without a good excuse (disabilities that make exercise difficult or impossible,for example) but denying care is crazy.BEYOND crazy!
8 posted on 04/29/2012 7:18:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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This is why I have never told any of my doctors that I am a smoker. It will come to this.


11 posted on 04/29/2012 7:25:12 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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Lucky to be British in a post Christian land. Have the Doctors given any thought to what will happen to them when they grow old?
12 posted on 04/29/2012 7:26:25 AM PDT by Hans
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Since I am a fat smoker the doctor will just have to kill me.


16 posted on 04/29/2012 7:28:19 AM PDT by Hans
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This is euthanasia by omission rather than commission.


17 posted on 04/29/2012 7:29:10 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: John W; Eric Blair 2084; CSM; Mears; Madame Dufarge; metesky; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

‘Nuff said.......


18 posted on 04/29/2012 7:29:42 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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I like it! Now, do away with all taxes on tobacco so the product is affordable. Then let the smoker bank the savings, put it in his/her own medical savings account and pay for their own smoker related health care.

Oh, I know, no one would do that. They would spend the savings on donuts.

Sorry, I lost my head for a moment.

22 posted on 04/29/2012 7:35:21 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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In the U.K., smokers and the obese pay taxes at the same rate as everybody else to support the NHS. If they were not taxed, they would use those moneys to fund their own treatment for conditions they had imposed upon themselves. How fair is it then, for the government to take their money and deny them treatment?


23 posted on 04/29/2012 7:36:14 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Kill everyone over 22.

The biggest fear the liberals have is that there are/will-be too many people on the earth. They want only 30 million people on this planet. That’s why gun control is so important to them. They want to control who the guns get pointed at. They want to determine who gets to live. Yes, they are that heinous.


30 posted on 04/29/2012 7:45:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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LOL
Smokers are the ones paying very high taxes. Have you seen the price of cigarettes lately?
The mob has gotten into the cigarette business now. 90% of the cost is TAX.
Seriously if everybody quit our taxes would go through the roof.
As for fatties. . . . They don't pay; well maybe they do. They eat 3 cheeseburgers and pay the extra tax on the 2.
34 posted on 04/29/2012 7:58:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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This is where we are heading and it makes perfect logical sense.

If I’m paying for someone else’s health insurance, I’m not going to pay for someone drinking, smoking, being fat, engaging in risky sex, riding motorcycles, hang-gliding, etc. (the list is endless).


35 posted on 04/29/2012 8:01:55 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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This is where we are heading and it makes perfect logical sense.

If I’m paying for someone else’s health insurance, I’m not going to pay for someone drinking, smoking, being fat, engaging in risky sex, riding motorcycles, hang-gliding, etc. (the list is endless).


36 posted on 04/29/2012 8:02:08 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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This is where we are heading and it makes perfect logical sense.

If I’m paying for someone else’s health insurance, I’m not going to pay for someone drinking, smoking, being fat, engaging in risky sex, riding motorcycles, hang-gliding, etc. (the list is endless).


37 posted on 04/29/2012 8:02:14 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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The survey...found that 593, or 54 percent, of the 1,096 doctors who participated answered yes to this question: “Should the NHS be allowed to refuse non-emergency treatments to patients unless they lose weight or stop smoking?”

54% is a pretty high rate of moronic incompetence to have in a healthcare system.


40 posted on 04/29/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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