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To: vadum

First, JC Fremont wasn’t elected.

Second, if memory serves me correctly, Chester Arthur burned his records shortly before his death, “cleverly” concealing a lot of things from posterity.

Out here on what Mr Zak calls “the fringe,” there those of us who believe there are three kinds of citizen:

1) naturalized, (foreign born)
2) natural, (born in USA, parents maybe or maybe not citizens)
and;
3) natural born, (both parents citizens at time of birth, whether naturalized or natural)

If that is not so, there was no reason to differentiate the categories within the Constitution.

The left will man the ramparts defending obama. If the right elects a president with the exact same qualifications, in regard to his birth, they will attack unmercifully until the “usurper” is deposed. They will never admit to the hypocrisy of their position, and they will never relent.

To use Zak’s logic, one of the Chinese anchor babies, born on a maternity tourism jaunt to the good ol’ US of A, then raised in Communist China would make a dandy president.

Much as what happened with the current occupant of 1600 Penn’a Ave, Wash DC, except he was raised in Indonesia of Communist parents.


24 posted on 04/27/2012 8:51:38 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

RE: First, JC Fremont wasn’t elected.

I think the author’s point was that the founders of the GOP ( including Lincoln ) did not find Fremont’s birth circumstances to be a constitutional barrier to his becoming President of the USA.


43 posted on 04/27/2012 9:03:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: RobinOfKingston
First, JC Fremont wasn’t elected.

What does that matter? He ran for president on the Republican ticket. That means the Republicans supported him and had no issue with his citizenship.

Second, if memory serves me correctly, Chester Arthur burned his records shortly before his death, “cleverly” concealing a lot of things from posterity.


What does that matter? The fact his father was a British subject was publicly known when he ran for Vice-President, which has the same requirements as President. Oh, perhaps he burned secret instructions from Queen Vicky on how to overthrow the American Republic and restore the country to rightful British rule?
52 posted on 04/27/2012 9:08:58 AM PDT by Cheburashka (It's legal to be out at night in spacesuits, even carrying a rag dolly. Cops hauled us in anyway.)
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To: RobinOfKingston
Out here on what Mr Zak calls “the fringe,” there those of us who believe there are three kinds of citizen:

1) naturalized, (foreign born)
2) natural, (born in USA, parents maybe or maybe not citizens) and;
3) natural born, (both parents citizens at time of birth, whether naturalized or natural)

If that is not so, there was no reason to differentiate the categories within the Constitution.

There is no wording within the Constitution that differentiates category 2 from category 3.

59 posted on 04/27/2012 9:19:33 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: RobinOfKingston

Very good, but I would say that the three kinds of citizens are 1)naturalized, 2)Native born, 3)Natural born. Many confuse Native born with Natural born and there is a difference.


149 posted on 04/27/2012 12:30:00 PM PDT by familyof5
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