Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.

April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

[2ndDivisionVet]

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.

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[Elsie]

Thanks for helping to drive off mainstream conservatives!

Oh?

You got a LIST of them?

I can produce one of the foolish MORMONs that got themselves zotted for being STUPID.

Are THOSE the ones you speak of?

[Elsie]

If this post leads to a zot, so be it...

Looks like SOMEone is trying to boost their street cred in Provo!

[Elsie]

There is a reason why public figures won’t touch this site with a ten foot pole, and the condoned anti-Mormonism by people like Colofornian and Elsie is a large part of that reason.

In your FACE; Rush!!

You think YOU have influence???

HA! Piker!!!

[Elsie]

And you wonder why any one with integrity do not take you serious?

What has integrity to do with it?

Merely having TWO brain cells to rub together would qualify a person...

[Elsie]

I don’t wanna look!

[Colofornian]

The anti-Mormon junk is obnoxious. It’s one thing to allow Mormonism to be deservedly criticized, but it’s another thing to make anti-Mormonism a semi-official site policy. There is a reason why public figures won’t touch this site with a ten foot pole, and the condoned anti-Mormonism by people like Colofornian and Elsie is a large part of that reason. You can have a site dedicated to trashing Mormons or a site where mainstream public figures like Tony Snow post, but not both. I sure as Hell would prefer having the latter.

Do you always go around & gossip behind people's back? Is that just norm for your lifestyle? (Considered common online courtesy to ping them when speaking about them to others)

There's a few "anti-Scientology-ism" people around as well. Do you go around to those sites & ensure you defend the Scientologists as well? Or does Mormonism have some special "ism" appeal to you not found in Scientology? [I post on Mormonism here because (a) I am a descendent of a Mormon leader; and (b) Conservative Mormons post & lurk here)

Do you object to the Mormons for using both Lds.org -- and its doorbell-ringing -- as a platform for its anti-Christianeering, or do you lopsided side with the Mormons? [take any phrase below, cut & paste it & go to Lds.org to find it...re: the Lds missionaries...see the last row in the chart below]

Charting Mormon Foundational Intolerance: Smithesque Slander of the Christian Church

MEMO: ‘Wake-up call’ to allies of Mormon founder Joseph Smith and those operating as current disciples of Smith: Those who 'preach' against intolerance need to take note of Mormonism's intolerant roots

Title: A Primer of How Lds founder Joseph Smith Launched His Campaign of Open Bigotry vs. Worldwide Christianity, Engaging in Scorched-Earth Religious Politics

Mitt Romney, Dec, 2007, speaking @ the George Bush Presidential Library: "I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers – I will be true to them and to my beliefs."

Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects	Mormon Source [Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain]
“...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…”	Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…”	Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth” [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead]	Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness."	Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938]
“In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]…THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it almost 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 52,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)]	Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996

[lonestar]

relief!

[.30Carbine]

Nevertheless, I believe that we are duty bound before God to exercise our right to vote as prayerfully and logically and patriotically in behalf of our cherished values as well as we can. This issue is just very troubling--sometimes to me and certainly to several I love. How can we rationally justify doing ANYTHING that results in the WORST of the two satanic evil Marxist weasels another 4 years?

I agree, but that is precisely what the GOP-e did in putting forth Romney as the nominee. He has an (R) next to his name so he won't pull off many (D) votes from Obama, and he's so closely matched to all of Obama's administrative history that no conscientious Conservative will vote for him: there is no way he can beat even the worst President in our history, why, then, would he be put forth as the only candidate who can beat Obama. It is totally illogical unless the GOP-e prefers another Obama presidency to a Conservative one.

[.30Carbine]

I'm really not being cheeky. I'm seriously seeking your wisdom and advice on this conundrum. OThuga is sooooo demonized, sold out to Marxism and satanic Islam . . . that sometimes he makes ANYONE else seem like they are Marxist lite.

I would say rather that he makes anyone seem Conservative by comparison - even Bill Clinton seems Conservative compared to Obama, so why does Mitt Romney look like he has so much in common with him?!

[Quix]

Certainly it’s a pretend choice concocted in hell.

[presently no screen name]

I don’t see how Newt ever convinced folks he’s authentically conservative . . .

I don't see how Mitt convinced ANYONE he's even a Republican much less a Conservative! He doesn't even belong on a GOP ticket! Just for starters, what does initiating and putting a stamp of approval on same sex marriages and baby killing and socialistic healthcare have to do with the GOP platform?

Who would have thunk it - evil invading territory where the door was left open. And then convinced others he's 'one of them'!! And then spent millions upon millions attacking the who who is the exact opposite of him and that deception goes on to deceive even more. Evil moves very quickly, as we know it does, when it has very little resistance. Evil has to be fought, not dawdled over with trying to decide is it worse than another evil. IMO, Mitt should have been dropped kicked off the first debate, instead 'it' was kissed by others, 'covered' by others, 'high-fived' by others, thumbs up by others, given #1 status by others. Repulsive to watch.

Going on how others see Newt is none of my concern, if you have to look through another eyes to see what they want you to see, that's your problem. IIRC, someone, also, told you SARAH was NWO. One will see what is upper most in their mind/heart and NWO is that w/you - so even if it's not there, any word of theirs you will see a NWO attachment. IMO, it clouds you from seeing the difference between good vs evil. IMO,

I’m a bit skeptical that Marxist Mitt would THAT demonically harsh. I could be wrong.

Well at least you admit you could be wrong. NO ONE else knows either - only God knows. Remember those who voted for Barry had NO IDEA the depths evil would work through him.

But you are holding Barry as a standard to judge how evil Romney can't be. That's about a 'no knowledge' mental gymnastic as one can be. Evil doesn't have a STOP code.

Since only God knows the future - I will NEVER assume one evil if worse or better than the other. Because that would be looking with 'natural eyes' and making a decision based on that. Expect to be fooled every time because Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things 'not seen'.

My faith is in God, first, last and always. No one knows how God plans to work through Newt. God works through imperfect vessels because He has NO perfect vessels to work through - there are NONE. But He does NOT work through evil vessels - that is satan's job. Barry and Mitt are both evil - i.e. their pro homo agenda and pro baby killing stance is an abomination to God, that's what evil is.

NWO is coming as we know from Scripture. But you have NO IDEA 'who/when/where'. So attaching it to everyone who comes on the political scene will leave you deceived. Think PRESENT!

Leave your 'conservative hasn't convinced you/others enough' concerns aside and your NWO litmus test - THINK CHOOSING between GOOD vs. EVIL. This is NOT rocket science - it would be revealing, though, if you flunked Christianity 101. Then you would be no different than the world.

[Godzilla]

WPaCon - I don’t know what your problem is, but I’ll bet it’s hard to pronounce.

You might remember if you are sooooooo hooked on proper FR behavior to ping those who you name in your post so they have an opportunity to reply. How much have you ever ponyed up WPaCon? Or have you been a freeloader? You don’t like it here, then perhaps DU is a better forum for your dribble.

A zot would be too kind for you - but well earned for the bile you’ve posted.

[BlueMoose]

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[BlueMoose]

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[presently no screen name]

if you are sooooooo hooked on proper FR behavior

Exactly, the easiest of all proper behavior and WPaCon fails!

What can be said but this was never the place for him! No wonder he has a loooong list of whines.

[presently no screen name]

We will have to pick up the pieces

I believe this is where the church comes in since their gov't failed them. Shock!

Newt was the closest we had to a conservative

NO DOUBT about it!!

[TheOldLady]

Well said, Big Guy.

[Quix]

Worthy points. Thx.

You may have missed that Newt

ALLIED HIMSELF with NWO and their hostilities to Christianity, family etc. . . . for example, by writing the forward to Toffler’s horrid NWO book.

[ridge]

I have neighbors in Virginia that can never vote for a Mormon, French surrender monkey, like Mitt Romney. His positions change every day. Now, he is for bailouts again!