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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: Raider Sam
No. This was meant to be a donation thread and not a debate thread. The subject of the thread was to encourage donations. What resulted was cheering that they're down and suppositions as to why.
101 posted on 04/27/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: bigheadfred

Nope, but I have a great credit limit. Let the good times roll!


102 posted on 04/27/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: fml
That boat won't float. All the problems come from within this site.

That is absurd. What we are seeing is the salted soil left over from the backstabbing of too many Tea Party candidates by the GOP-E in 2010, and the scorched-earth campaigning by Romney against his opponents this time around.

And it's not even like we got an electable RINO out of this mess. Romney takes Obamacare off the table. Excessive Wall Street influence. Bailouts. He takes too many of the critical campaign issues out of play, while offering little or nothing in the way of his own positives as a campaigner. Most people simply cannot connect to the guy on any level the way many folks did with Bush.

Romney's only advantage in the GOP primary was money. He buried any challenger under an avalanche of misleading and downright deceptive advertising, and they had no way to counter. Obama will not have that limitation. He will take dirty union and liberal money, take Romney's own words and deeds, and drive Romney straight into the ground with them.

Once again, conservatives are being yelled at to fall in line behind the RINO in the name of party unity - after the GOP-E refused to do such in 2010. It wasn't conservatives who sent the message of Party Unity My Ass first - it was those now demanding such, who broke party unity last time around. Conservatives have now seen that party unity only applies when the RINO wins. It's going to take a lot more than the usual yelling and insults and fear-mongering to repair what has been undone. What we are seeing on FR is a symptom. The disease came from elsewhere.

103 posted on 04/27/2012 8:04:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: DJ MacWoW

Florida was punished for breaking the rules. I dont know why that is so hard to get.


104 posted on 04/27/2012 8:05:16 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: fml
All the problems come from within this site.

That's your opinion. There really are trolls hiding in the trees and under the bridge.

105 posted on 04/27/2012 8:05:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: wtc911
But, the number of zots over opinion as opposed to violation of posting rules gives credence to those who say that this model has ceased to exist.

Bingo!!!

I remember when the only people zotted were disruptors and the occasional stromfront member who snuck in through the back door to send everyone racist private messages. Fer cryin' out loud, we had Murraymom posting here! She was as unashamedly liberal as anyone over at Kos! We were truly a "Free Republic."

These days you're free to agree with the harpy brigade and you're walking on thin ice if you don't.

106 posted on 04/27/2012 8:05:35 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Raider Sam

It’s a power thing, I think. “We have the power, and you don’t, nyah nyah nyah....”


107 posted on 04/27/2012 8:06:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: DJ MacWoW

This was once a place where reasonable people, who agreed on perhaps 75 percent of the issues, could discuss their differences reasonably.

You and Jim have taken a stand, and good for you. The rest of us are not obligated to fall into line.

This is either a forum where free discussion is tolerated and encouraged, or it’s a cheerleading site for the conservative flavor of the month. You can choose one or the other, just be honest about what you are.


108 posted on 04/27/2012 8:06:54 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: MizSterious
There is nothing so silent on FR as the zotted conservatives.

I don't take for granted that they were conservatives nor why they were zotted.

Good job--anti-freepers and the left couldn't have done it better.

They're here.

109 posted on 04/27/2012 8:07:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Believe me I am extremely conservative, but feel that it is more important to remove Obama than anything else. That is obviously no longer the objective on this site. Instead it seems to be to insult anyone who believes as I do.
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The problem is, most Freepers feel as you do. They just left, stopped posting, have been zotted, or have found greener pastures. There is a posse on here that consists of about 20-30 that relentlessly goes after anyone that says they will vote for ABO. That group is relentless and abusive. They hate or pretend to hate mittens more than anything on earth . I wonder if they realize the harm they are doing to this great forum.

and I’m done, I swore I wouldn’t comment but couldn’t help myself.


110 posted on 04/27/2012 8:07:52 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR.

You wanna know who is ruining FR? You and your ping list buddies.

111 posted on 04/27/2012 8:08:19 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Peter from Rutland

Well said.


112 posted on 04/27/2012 8:08:36 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: dforest

Exactly. It took the progressives over 100 years to get national health care. Reducing the scope of government wont be overnight.


113 posted on 04/27/2012 8:09:08 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MizSterious

As I’ve said, I don’t know all the reasons for bannings nor do I take for granted that I do know. There are really anti-freepers and leftists here. And they are taking advantage of the discord over Romney.


114 posted on 04/27/2012 8:09:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: mojitojoe

115 posted on 04/27/2012 8:09:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: MizSterious

Hey, Miz. Thanks for being a partner in bitterness ... about how Rick Perry was treated on this site. I never understood why the mods didn’t put a stop to it.

Rick Perry was vindicated this morning on Fox News for his much maligned statement that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. It is.

And, even now, when Rick Perry was the last major figure to endorse Romney after sticking with Newt till the last dog died, he was criticized.

My God!


116 posted on 04/27/2012 8:10:18 AM PDT by altura
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Getting called a coward,evil, and that I was going to hell because I’m voting for ABO(because Obama is the worst possible outcome of this election) was when I’d had enough. I served in Iraq for this country, seen people blown apart and shot to death and some dumbass armchair generals on here want to call me and others cowards and evil for voting ABO. Yeah have at it. I voted for Newt in TN, but will vote ABO to try and get the monster out of the White House.


117 posted on 04/27/2012 8:11:19 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: DJ MacWoW

It is still a donation thread. You can still donate. Do all donation threads have to be butterflies and rainbows?


118 posted on 04/27/2012 8:11:26 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: dagogo redux
Many who might have provided financial support have literally been run off or banned, but an even greater number, I believe, have simply been alienated.

Include me.

I think it's entirely appropriate in a FReepathon thread to find out why donations are down. Some just don't want to hear it.

"FR doesn't support Socialists." Hmmm, not entirely. One thing that's completely flummoxed me is how the anti-Romney jihadists get away with posting thread after thread of anti-Romney propaganda often accompanied by other anti-Romney jihadists piling on commenting how "four more years of Obama is preferable to 8 years of Romney", or other similar statements.

Most of them used to stay in their Religion forum playpen but the primaries let them bring it out in the open. So there are "pro-Obama" folks here who are evidently allowed to support the reelection of the communist.

I don't like Romney but am one of many that will fall in behind the candidate to defeat the worst thing that ever happened to this country.

119 posted on 04/27/2012 8:12:32 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It would help if you knew what a “socialist” really is. There is a actual real world definition, and it does not mean someone who disagrees with you. When people within the GOP are labeled Socialists you lose all credibility. The term just becomes an insult without meaning. There is a healthy divergent opinion within the GOP that stretches from right to slight left of center( US context), but socialist is not one of them. So when you throw that term around loosely, you indicate a certain lack of knowledge on history and politics. If you argue that Romney is a more liberal leaning Republican, conservative Democrat like, that is fair and measured. But to yell Socialist just makes fair people roll their eyes, and think they are having a political discussion with a nutter.


120 posted on 04/27/2012 8:12:40 AM PDT by gusty
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To: dforest
Most people aren’t being influenced by anything other than there is nothing worse than Barack Obama.

Except that there is. A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.

121 posted on 04/27/2012 8:12:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW; fml

Because that is easier than having to get introspective for a moment and realize that your actions have consequences.


122 posted on 04/27/2012 8:13:31 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: wtc911

I agree. My ancestors go back to Revolutionary war. My family’s blood is on this land. I have drifted away from here because I don’t think I deserve to be called names and ridiculed just because I am going to vote for Romney over a Muslim Brotherhood loving commie phony president.
Melissa


123 posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:17 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Continuing to support a socialist on FR is against the rules.

This is exactly what you are doing, did you not read my last post? Do you not understand that it was Perot that brought us Bill Clinton?

I had to laugh to myself the other day when I saw a poster say they were 27 and tired of it. Too many people seem to have no clue or are not in touch with what CAN happen and what WILL happen should Obama be re-elected to another term.

124 posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:20 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Raider Sam
You're mixing 2 separate events. They lost delegates because they changed their date. That choice also meant that, according to the rules, they could no longer be winner take all.

The RNC punted and said they'd deal with it at the convention......when it's too late to matter.

125 posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ace of Spades

Yeah. Mine isn’t too bad either.

But I’m sick Ace. I need some really expensive chemo.

And the people who have that seem to need cash on the table.

I am more tired, more sick by the day.

I work four tens so today starts my weekend. I was going to get a dozen worms and go sit down at the river and drown those little bastards. But apparently (I just looked out the window) we are experiencing a blizzard. So that ten bucks I was going to spend today? I SHOULD donate it to FR. Maybe I’ll put it in my Get Well Pat Fund instead.


126 posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:54 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I personally know people who were zotted, and some who are now quiet because of the threat. Conservatives who just think that there is a worse Thing than Romney, conservatives who wanted to support one of the best conservative candidates we had this election, Rick Perry—just for starters. Conservatives who rightly pointed out that Herman Cain was a flim flam man with lots of problems. The list goes on.


127 posted on 04/27/2012 8:16:14 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: MizSterious

I dont disagree. Its like everyone thinks they’re gonna get a gold star and free cupcake for being good kids.


128 posted on 04/27/2012 8:16:18 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Second Amendment First; DJ MacWoW

those being banned are the ones silenced for expressing their opinions. For that they are reviled and banished.
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DJ, you have to admit, the past 2 months or so a HUGE amount of FReepers old, new and in between have been zotted or stopped posting due to what secondam says. FReepers have been forced into silence for fear of being abused and zotted if reported to the mods or JR for not towing the line.


129 posted on 04/27/2012 8:17:05 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: MizSterious
Trouble is, to many, anyone supporting anyone but Cain or Gingrich is a “troll.”

Not true!!! Palin is acceptable as well!!

130 posted on 04/27/2012 8:17:27 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: Ace of Spades
The rest of us are not obligated to fall into line.

That is absolutely right. And the owner has stated for months that he will not allow FR to be used to support Romney.

131 posted on 04/27/2012 8:17:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

where are your zot buddies.

You seem to be fighting a lone battle here.

You can do it because you’re not even here. You are floating in the sky in some kind of dream world.

Post after post here has complained about not being free to post one’s opinion if we’re not with the cult.

But you don’t even see it from your home in the sky.

Do you still think Newt will get the nomination?

Do you still think some third party candidate will win?

What do you think?

I think Obama needs to be defeated.


132 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:14 AM PDT by altura
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To: Drew68
You wanna know who is ruining FR? You and your ping list buddies.

Now That's worth a WOO HOO!!!

133 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:28 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: mojitojoe

134 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:28 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Drew68
You wanna know who is ruining FR? You and your ping list buddies.

Jim Robinson runs FR. I have pinged no one. Not even him.

135 posted on 04/27/2012 8:19:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Peter from Rutland

The rest of the sane world is working to get rid of Obama, no matter what the cost is because the country you fought for cannot stand another four years of this.

Winning the Senate and the House is not enough because Obama has proven he will simply go around them.
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First of all, let me state that I agree with everything you said above. Secondly, that “house negro” comment was wrong.


136 posted on 04/27/2012 8:19:16 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: dirtboy

No. Most of us don’t like Romney but know he is the only hope to rid us of Obama, that being a bannable offense has nothing to do with the world at large. And that pretty much is the root of the problem - from within


137 posted on 04/27/2012 8:19:26 AM PDT by fml
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To: Raider Sam

Don’t you think that donors deserve being thanked in a spectacular fashion for donating in this economy?


138 posted on 04/27/2012 8:21:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: mojitojoe

If Obama gets another term, he will find a way around the house and the senate and he will ban the supreme court.

I really believe that.


139 posted on 04/27/2012 8:22:15 AM PDT by altura
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To: DJ MacWoW

No, it did not. You want that to be the case, but it isnt.


140 posted on 04/27/2012 8:22:15 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

DJ.... socialist and liberal or RINO are not the same thing. I would venture to guess 99% or better of the population does not consider mittens a Socialist. RINO, moderate, liberal Republican, yes, o bama is hard core Marxist. BIG difference.


141 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:04 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: altura

My nephew said it best “I will vote for an orange juice can, before I will vote for Obama.” Too bad FR doesn’t feel this way.


142 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:40 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: mojitojoe

I’ll grant you that and apologize for me initial comment.


143 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:58 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: DJ MacWoW

Romney wasn’t chosen by the people but by a small faction of those in control
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The voters had no say in the matter?


144 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:19 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

This thread was linked into the Freepathon thread and you were pinged to it. That’s why you didn’t ping anyone.


145 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:34 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from Him." -Psalm 62:5)
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To: MizSterious

What’s really bizarre is the zot-dances and zot lists after a long-time freeper gets the boot. Why would somebody celebrate that?


146 posted on 04/27/2012 8:25:42 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: fml
No. Most of us don’t like Romney but know he is the only hope to rid us of Obama, that being a bannable offense has nothing to do with the world at large. And that pretty much is the root of the problem - from within

And again, bullcrap.

Where was party unity in 2010? The GOP-E sure didn't care about it when many of their choice RINOs went down in the primaries.

So they revealed what party unity is all about - it only applies when the RINO wins - something conservatives have speculated about for a long time on FR and was finally confirmed in 2010.

The GOP-E made this bed. They can push their pet RINO over the finish line, they let him destroy the other candidates and any possible chance of reconcilation after the primary winner was decided.

And they also managed to push about the worst possible candidate to go up against Obama. I see it as being a lost cause already. I could be wrong, but I will put my efforts into down-ticket races the way I did in 2010.

147 posted on 04/27/2012 8:25:45 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well, I will choose the wolf in sheeps clothing this time and take my chances. Couldn’t get any worse, could it?

Believe me, at least I can hope that wolf will do something about the economy and observe and respect all branches of our Government.

The one we have now does not do that at all.

He just rules by fiat.

No thanks.


148 posted on 04/27/2012 8:25:50 AM PDT by dforest
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To: MizSterious

especially the zotted monthly contributors...


149 posted on 04/27/2012 8:25:56 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks for the example of why Free Republic donations are down. Perfect example.


150 posted on 04/27/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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