Posted on 04/26/2012 10:33:36 PM PDT by neverdem
Mexican authorities have recovered around 68,000 guns that traced back to the United States in the past five years, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) said on Thursday.
“Since 2007, trace data shows a trend in recovered and submitted crime guns from Mexico shifting from pistols and revolvers to rifles,” the ATF said in a statement.
The agency added that reports from officials in Mexico show “certain types of rifles, such as the AK and AR variants with detachable magazines, are used more frequently to commit violent crime by drug trafficking organizations.”
The ATF said it was able to trace back 68,000 of more than 99,000 guns that were submitted by Mexican authorities.
Mexican officials in the past have complained that drug cartels often wind up with U.S.-sourced guns in their bloody wars against each other and the army.
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At least 47,000 people have been killed in the conflict since President Felipe Calderon directed the army to act against cartels in 2006.
How many guns were not submitted to the ATF because the Mexican government knew they were either locally-sourced or from South America?
I have an idea, let’s just keep Mexicans from crossing the border into our country illegally.
I'll bet the match is over 70% (my gut says 90%). Reason is that weapons from the US would be so expensive as to be uncompetitive on the black market.
Wouldn't you just love to have the ATF F&F serial number file to compare with those from recovered weapons in Mexico? Frankly, it's amazing they've been able to keep the wraps on that data for so long.
Oh, gee, I guess that we need to ban them.
/s
BTW, they forgot to call them "high powered assault weapons". Must be getting careless.
Fats and Furious has pretty much destroyed the gun grabber’s lies about US guns in Mexico.
At least 47,000 people have been killed in the conflict since President Felipe Calderon directed the army to act against cartels in 2006.
Geez, that's about the same numbers the Brady bunch screams will happen every time there's a pro-gun law passed in the US.
Hopefully, this will inspire the Obama Administration to cease future gun shipments to the cartels.
How many of these ‘American weapons’ are U.S. military arms provided to the Mexican armed forces as part of our multi-billion dollar military assistance programs?
How many were sold to the Mexican gubment and then stolen?
At least for the rifles, probably most of those not part of Fast And Furious/Gunwalker.
Although the Mexican Army tends to favor H&K rifles, plus their indigenous knock off of H&K (it's not identical, but clearly derived from the H&K.
And Fast and Furious will forever be hidden away.....unless some one high up gets indicted and has to submit sworn testimony before a judge. Not a congressional committee, a judge.
If my memory serves me, the last time this came up it was reported that the guns found in Mexico were first screened by Mexican authorities and those thought to be American were segregated and submitted to the US for analysis. Much to the Justice dept's suprise, most of the "submitted" guns were in fact of American origin. Looks to be the same BS here again.
Isn't there a saying that "insanity is trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result?"
68,000 pounds of cocaine recovered in U.S. traced to Mexico (and that’s not even a full year).
Media providing cover for “Fast and furious”.
Bull Hockey!
Effin... Lieyuhs...
So, this is what has been paying for all those spiffy new BATFE hats, t-shirts and steroids?
If the Damned border was properly sealed and BATF disbanded the problem would vanish.
I an certain that every Colt, S&W, Ruger, Remington, Bushmaster and a host if others found in Mexico can be traced to the USA.
They’re made here!
I’m sure all of the Mercedes and BMWs the cartels drive down there can be traced to Germany. The issue is not “U.S.-sourced”, it’s “U.S. Government-sourced”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dzyLsemV8c&feature=g-all-a&hd=1
Someone have written a book about the whole Fast and Furious Scandal
Fast and Furious by Katie Pavlich B
Hey, they won’t let any facts get in the way, ever!
Amazing, I didn’t realize fast and furious was that big...shame on our government. (that’s what I believe an I’m sticking to it).
Seems to me they have a problem with their customs service or border watch people. Ever try to get a bunch of guns into Canada?
yeah for you and me....but the MSM and the liberal mind is a fertile flower bed for deceit and anti gun thought. you will not see any of the truth on MSNBC or CBS or NBC and only the internet and FOX will broadcast any of it...
I left a comment after the article that the omission of the Obama Administration intentionally selling tens of thousands of firearms to drug cartels is a derelection of journalistic integrity.
Surprise, surprise, surprise!
Who cares. If Mexico weren't a cesspool of corrupt police, corrupt bureaucrats, and criminals then there wouldn't be any shootings. It's criminals who commit the crimes - not guns. A fact lost on all Democrats, the Media, and many Republicans.
And 13 million illegal aliens can be traced to Mexico. Coincidentally, the solution to both problems is the same. Build a damned fence.
No I can't say that I have, nor would I want to. Most Canadians - especially from the eastern part, like most Brits, and most New Yorkers pi$$ themselves at the sight of gun anyway.
Excellent insight. Just because they can be “traced” back to America, doesn’t mean they crossed our southern border illegally.
Good point. I’ll Give a @#$K about the guns when both the United States and Mexico give a @#$K about the insurgency of illegal aliens coming into the US.
Until then, I don’t see an issue since neither country’s leadership wants to close the border.
And a word of caution to the ATF. Don’t try to use this as a means to undermine RKBA in the US. We’re ready for that and it’ll sting a LOT for you if you try it. You won’t want to go down this path at all. The questions you’ll have to answer are some that you don’t want to go near at all.
We don’t need ATF - PERIOD. Its an anti-Seocnd Amendment Propaganda Machine.
It needs to be disbanded. We have enough Damn police here - State Police, FBI, CIA, U.S. Marshals, municipal police, County Police, Park Police, Institutional Police, TSA, etc.etc.
The Founding Fathers would be horrified at the massive police state we have allowed to be created.
I don’t know why they even try to hide it anymore. Why not just go for broke already? The suspense is killing me.
If i ever choose to move back to Canada from the states my guns will be moving with me.
To: neverdem
How many of these ‘American weapons’ are U.S. military arms provided to the Mexican armed forces as part of our multi-billion dollar military assistance programs?.....
EXCELLENT POINT!
To: neverdem
How many of these ‘American weapons’ are U.S. military arms provided to the Mexican armed forces as part of our multi-billion dollar military assistance programs?.....
EXCELLENT POINT!
Plus, the Mexican government does not "submit" all the guns it finds to the BATFE, only the ones it suspects came from the US, so of course a high percentage of those guns will be from the US.
The relevant factor, the percentage of guns from the US of the total guns the Mexican government collected, is nowhere to be found in the article.
This is what F&F was all about.
ATF: 68,000 Guns Recovered in Mexico Trace to US Government
For every illegal gun turned in, get an illegal
alien in exchange, heck make it TWO!
And there's the strategy. They'll say Bush did it too.
Just imagine what the MSM would do if a Republican president got caught shipping guns across the boarder. They'd have mobs storming the White House by now.
Fast and Furious proves, without question, the main stream medias deadly bias.
It's like shipping and distributing a truck load of arms into inner city Chicago. It's just something you shouldn't do. It wouldn't turn out well for innocent people who may be in the wrong place at the wrong time. In the Fast and Furious case, that would be the boarder control agents guarding our boarder.
Not directed at you but does anyone know if Mexico let that guy and his semi truck full of ammo that accidentally went into Mexico back in the US?
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