Posted on 04/26/2012 11:48:40 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – The Transportation Security Administration is once again the subject of national scrutiny, this time after aggressively screening a 7-year-old female passenger with cerebral palsy which caused her family to miss their flight....“They make our lives completely difficult,” her father, Dr. Joshua Frank, a Long Island pediatrician, told The Daily. “She’s not a threat to national security.”
Frank taped the encounter, which ended when a supervisor inspected her crutches and let them pass. But agents followed up and insisted upon doing a full inspection of Dina.
Ultimately, the family missed their flight.
(Excerpt) Read more at washington.cbslocal.com ...
UPDATE: The TSA issued a statement defending their decision to pat-down the girl.
“TSA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper screening procedures in conducting a modified pat-down on the child,” the agency said.
The mission profile of the TSA has moved way beyond screening for potential terrorists.
No, we’re being conditioned to be subservient to authority, no matter how egregious the demand.
It’s long past time for the entire DHS organization to be disbanded.
I guess this family has never heard of arriving at the airport “At least 1 hour prior to departure” to avoid this. Idiots miss a flight that they likely knew about for weeks, so instead of stepping up and admitting that they were late ... no, let’s blame the TSA.
Union Thugs at work.
That sure looks like what the “Teasers” are trying to do. An uppity union anyhow.
I haven’t been on a plane since before this nonsense began in earnest. Patriotic patdowns! Is there a bridge too far here? I don’t believe Israel does this, and they face a lot more potential flight terrorists than the US does.
Those before us would not sit on their hands while permitting government agencies, under the color of authority, to bully, insult and arrogantly abuse both physically and mentally the American Citizen.
I say get rid of the TSA. Plain and simple, it is the state encroaching upon our liberties.
Maybe I missed something in a quick review of the original article, but nothing has been reported about how much time this ate up. The full hour could well have been allowed. The gummit ought to come right out and say “if you would be slow to strip search, allow more time.”
I wondered about this the instant I read this headline. This just another example of the many we have gotten recently, in a short time span, to make us crazier about the overreaching federal governemnt. Is it by design? Is it pushing, prodding, goading us to beg for relief and to REPLACE it with something? What... the... hell... is going on....... The world is in gimbal lock....
“I guess this family has never heard of arriving at the airport “At least 1 hour prior to departure”
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That’s why I stated in the other post. You SHOULD arrive 2 hours before your flight. It’s to avoid these kinds of situations. But in this situation, the TSA also had fault as how the F can you still hassle a visibly sick kid? They’re visibly white, a mother and kid, why not waive them in? The crowd will understand.
I’ve seen it before on flights: wheelchairs, crutches etc. The line of people will know why. Not a biggie.
Oh, golly .. like maybe I travel frequently (2-3 trips a month) for the past several years. I’ve been in pretty much every major hub in the US, and have stood in many, many security lines.
The worst line I have encountered was 25 minutes (Minneapolis) - now, if you arrive 1 hour before your departure time, that leaves you 20 minutes to get to your gate, and 15 minutes to spare.
If you are an idiot, and show up at security 5 minutes before your flight leaves ... do NOT blame the TSA. Isn’t it interesting that NO MENTION of how long it took the TSA to process these folk is mentioned in the article?
I see thousands of people go through security checkpoints (airports, where I work, customs, border crossings, International Customs at foreign airports) and guess what? Folk in wheelchairs tend to zip through security quickly, as do people on crutches ... and even (gasp) people with debilitating diseases. They are through security in about 3-4 minutes, as crutches need to be inspected to ensure no weapons are hidden in the metal supports.
But some free republic posters will defend them for 'safety'.
They are willing to wear the chains of bondage for a little security.
Moving them to the front of the line, no problem. You will never hear a complaint from me about someone needing special assistance, getting moved forward in line. Depending upon the line at Security, I've witnessed this on a few occassions.
However, everyone must go through security.
If this girl was wearing a Bhurka, would you have Security just "wave her through"? You have to have one set of rules that apply equally, to everyone.
Again, checking a wheelchair, walker and crutches is something the TSA does hundreds of times, every single day. You don't have to stand in line at Security very long to witness this yourself.
From what I undestand, Israel uses profiling instead and it works just fine for them.
The TSA seems to seek out employees without any common sense and who enjoy a rush from the power to control everyday citizens. As government employees the TSA screeners can’t be easily fired so the idiots who virtually molested this young girl will likely not face punishment or loss of their jobs. Sadly doing this idiocy in the name of security is a total joke. The TSA has detected more breast implants than terror plots.
In the previous 22 years before 9/11, how many hijackings of planes were there?
There were a fair number, but none of the hijackers wanted to use the craft as a suicide bomb before 9/11, usually they were looking for a ransom or to go to a special destination.
Second!
Israel has ZERO terrorist incidents aboard airline flights, AND has NO invasive airport security; they NEVER touch you. Not once. Instead, you are met at about a half dozen checkpoints by polite, highly trained, screeners who look you dead in the eye and gauge your non-verbal response to innocuous questions about how your day is going, where you’re headed — doing what amounts to making casual small talk. Their track record is 99.99% flawless.
By contrast, our invasive airport security HUMILIATES hundreds of American citizens DAILY, nitpicking about nail files, and bottles of hand lotion, yet FAILS — REPEATEDLY — to find guns and other implements passed through checkpoints by security auditors.
Israel’s “hands off” system is an unprecedented success, while our hapless band of groping uniformed perverts not only have an embarrassing track record, but are so far over the line of propriety as to be on the verge of fomenting a national insurrection.
This is shameful. Our government is out of control.
Close ... Israel uses Profiling PLUS our techniques, and it works very well for them. Everyone goes through security, Profiling is used for those warranting "extra attention".
All cars, taxis, buses and trucks go through a preliminary security checkpoint before entering the airport compound. Armed guards spot-check the vehicles by looking into cars, taxis and boarding buses, exchanging a few words with the driver and passengers. Armed security personnel stationed at the terminal entrances keep a close watch on those who enter the buildings. If someone arouses their suspicion or looks nervous, they may strike up a conversation to further assess the person's intent. Plainclothes armed personnel patrol the area outside the building, and hidden surveillance cameras operate at all times.[41] Inside the building, both uniformed and plainclothes security officers are on constant patrol. Departing passengers are personally questioned by security agents even before arriving at the check-in desk. This interview can last as little as a minute, or as long as an hour if a passenger is selected for additional screening. Luggage and body searches may be conducted. After the search, bags are placed through an X-ray machine before passengers proceed to the check-in counters. Occasionally, if security have assessed a person as a low risk, they will pass them straight through to the check-in desks, bypassing the main x-ray machines.
The time isn’t relevant, nor in the larger picture is the missed flight.
The arrogant, sick behavior of these TSA goons is relevant.
We have our State Police. They are euphemistically called DHS and TSA.
While I agree with most of what you said, they do, however, sometimes run a wand over ya. But the time through security is incredibly short (30 seconds tops), and I oftentimes wonder how they can do it without any incidents, given that they are the “most hated people” on earth. It clearly shows that what TSA is doing is waaaaay overboard. There is a quick visual check driving into Ben Gurion by single guards at 2-3 guard stations who look at ya, and if is not sure, will ask 1-2 quick questions, and that is it! Time? No more than 5-15 seconds at most.
Sources?
What you stated is patently untrue. Ben Gurion International Airport and it's security details. Israel is MUCH more intensive than we are.
TSA at work!
Statistics On Airport Screening From customs and security in Canada:
Terrorists Discovered 0
Transvestites 133
Hernias 1,485
Hemorrhoid Cases 3,172
Enlarged Prostates 8,249
Breast Implants 59,350
Natural Blondes 3
Coming in from London the L.A. TSA had a tiny, curly-headed, blonde boy of TWO, off to the side and wanding him. He was terrified. I was so stunned I didn't think to take a picture. DAMN!!
Originating in the U.S., if it originates outside the U.S., the TSA couldn’t do anything about it anyway.
“Israel is MUCH more intensive than we are.”
Huh? What do you mean “intensive”? I travel there, and if you mean invasive as in body scans, that is nonsense. Utterly fooey!
I did not say that Israel’s security were less INTENSIVE, I said they were less INTRUSIVE. HUGE difference.
And, while it IS true that the Israelis MAY do an occasional body search if they have doubts about a specific person, MOST of the time they don’t touch you. They don’t need to.
So, at the functional level where it matters to the flying public, Israel’s security is tighter than ours; more intense, but virtually hands-off. TSA “security” is lax, less intense, but more personally intrusive.
The answer is: one
In 1994 a disgruntled employee for Fedex took over a Fedex plane, before other crew members regained control.
(Ironically, he was planning on flying the plane into their headquarters in Memphis.)
Before that, you have to go back to 1978 to find a hijacking that originated in the U.S.
So saying “TSA = no hijackings” doesn’t hold sway.
I agree with you on this point. Unfortunate, if this is their first time traveling. But if not, they were foolish in not arriving much sooner given their “special” needs.
After reading many of the TSA apologist posts here the only thing missing is one of the government thug lovers stating, “I’ve read the constitution and nowhere does it state a girl with Cerebral Palsy has a right to fly”.
While I was typing this they just showed a video clip of one of the mentally challenged TSA slugs pushing her phone in front of the fathers camera/phone and tell him not to take her picture which I can understand as first she was butt ugly and second these scum don’t want their actions shown. Evidently a supervisor told the IQ challenged TSA agent she could not demand the passenger stop the video.
To the time challengers, the family claimed to be there 2 hours ahead of time and had gone through security once then were accosted (my words) while at the gate a second time.
Profile the 6th century sand monkeys and leave the rest of us alone.
He was taping the incident.
They decided to punish him for that. That is why they went back and decided to do the pat down.
Paybacks are hell.
You are supposed to stand there like a subservient idiot and let them do anything they like.
Play stupid and they will march you right through.
The benefit that Israel enjoys, that we do not - is that we must treat everyone equally. Equal Opportunity, Equal Protection, etc.
In short, we cannot legally profile - despite the known success, despite the fact that we know who is targetting us, despite every bit of common sense we possess ... we are prohibited from doing this.
Thus, instead of doing the wise thing (Israel - we agree there), we must all share in the misery.
Absolutely right let's blame the TSA.
The family had a financial agreement with the airline, they purchased services from the airline at an agreed price.
The federal government hurtles over the 10th Amendment and sets its self up on private property and gets between the airline and its customers.
If the airport or the individual airlines set up security checkpoints, that is one thing. That would be part of your agreement with doing business with them. If they violate you and treat you children like trash, you will no longer give them business.
The federal government monopoly and their TSA goons have no place there.
Hmm, so there was a lull.
Baaaaa!
that family was sitting at their gate for over an hour when they wereforced to go back again and go through screening . Maybe you shouldn’t jump to conclusions or act like some damn know it all just because you travel .
Mother Of Child With Cerebral Palsy Says TSA Treated Daughter "Like Osama Bin Laden"
...But after the family had spent an hour at the gate waiting for their flight, the TSA screeners returned and said Dina had to be screened again. “So then I got aggravated,” Dr. Frank tells The Daily. He put Dina in a wheelchair and raced her back to the gate, but by the time she passed through security a second time, they'd missed their flight.
The apologists are making me ill. The radiation-cancer machines aren’t allowed in Europe, and who knew that we would fall this far, to have every person treated like a criminal?
I lost relatives in Siberia, and have friends (in their mid 40s to 50s) who grew up behind the Iron Curtain, and lost EVERYONE in their family. These were highly educated and intelligent people, banished for playing the wrong song or not bowing to the right authority.
It’s coming here faster and faster, and all this garbage about a terrorist under every bed so take off your shoes, belts, and jewelry, are only preparing the dumb Americans for the “Siberian”-bound cattle cars.
Who knew this decade would be so good for the perverts, molesters, power hungry, passive-aggressive, and losers who couldn’t even get a job at the Post Office?
DHS 2012 = Moslem Brotherhood and Terrorists get a PASS
and “GET OUT OF JAIL CARDs”.
Crippled WHITE children get attacked while TSA agents
collect kiddie porn and rob Americans.
Anyone see a problem?
Because the undocumented Moslem pRes_ _ent does not.
Yup, and the Airlines inform every passenger (it's on the online reservation form, as well as spoken during the purchase transaction should you purchase from an airline representative to "arrive at least 1 hour prior to departure". It's not a big secret, it's pretty much common knowledge.
While your arguement with regard to the 10th ammendment seems valid - the Surpeme Court would disagree with you, as well as Congress. This would fall into Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution which gives the Federal Goverment the following powers:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
and so on, and so forth.
Thus, they are granted this ability. Pretty much every nation on the planet has security at the airport. Thus far, TSA has caught a few idiots who decided to bring back some C-4 from Afghanistan to show off to Ma and Pa, idiots who 'forgot' they had packed their loaded pistols, tons of pocketknives (I lost a few that way - and some were pretty darn nice too), as well as various insundries like endangered animals, drugs, large sums of money and chemical agents.
Baa!
Oh, that’s funny.
And that’s the way I feel going through security.
Israel cannot afford to engage in profiling any more than we can; they don’t have any political wiggle room on the subject, whereas we don’t have constitutional wiggle room.
I’d call that a wash as far as “profiling” goes.
What Israel is doing that we aren’t is treating everyone equally until they have probable cause to single someone out. This is no different than your local state trooper out on the highway watching all of the cars on the road; surveying every vehicle equally, until there emerges a definitive reason to single out a specific vehicle for elevated scrutiny.
The TSA hasn’t got the brains to operate that way. They single people out randomly, whether there is any probable cause or not, and THAT is where our system is broken, and where our politicians — at least up to this point — don’t have the balls to fix it.
Actually, I’m rather surprised that there has not yet been a class action suit lodged on behalf of travelers singled out for pat-downs. That action treats them unequally, and should have been challenged STRONGLY on the basis that they are being made subject to a criminal investigation without probable cause; it’s no matter that every traveler may have an equal chance of getting the pat down, the practical reality is that you are treating some people different than others WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE; there is NO LEGAL JUSTIFICATION for subjecting them to elevated scrutiny, but the TSA is doing it anyway, in CLEAR VIOLATION of long-standing law enforcement practices designed to protect Americans’ civil rights.
If true, I'd want the TSA Officer's job.
Because if this is true - and she was a 'mule' bringing weapons through security, she had ample time to distribute those weapons to any accomplice - thus voilating the entire security of the entire terminal, all gates and all terminals connected to that terminal.
Once you pass Security - you are presumed SAFE. This is an Epic Fail - they should have grounded the entire airport, and re-screened everyone. That's what they are hired to do, and if they botched this child, and she was perceived as a "Threat" - then the airport would need be re-screened.
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