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Not Excited About Romney?
CE.com ^ | april 25, 2012 | David J. Peterson

Posted on 04/25/2012 9:11:41 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: gghd; All

I’m Catholic too, and pro-life, which every Catholic ought to be. I’ve been very active in supporting pro-life candidates, however, I’m not sure how you arrived at your position. Given Romney’s past support for abortion and Planned Barrenhood, not to mention the fact he fathered so-called same-sex marriage in Canada, there is simply no difference between him and Obama on the issue.


101 posted on 04/26/2012 6:35:04 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Palin/Nugent '12)
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To: Salvation

It is simple, the same people who are cheering for the courts to overturn our national health care disgrace are expected to vote for the person who signed the basic model into law in Mass. if that makes any kind of sense I am Santa Claus. The Republican party is simply a foil for the Democrats, it is a good cop, bad cop routine, the disagreement is over which you see as good and which is bad.

The same thing pertains to Fox News now, it is not really conservative by any stretch, it simply exists so that those who are too disgusted to watch the other propaganda channels can switch to Fox and pretend they are getting the conservative viewpoint and the leftwing MSNBC nuts can scream about the “extreme rightwing” Fox news.

Those who thought Obama would straighten up behind the Republicans were expecting a hungry lion to save them from a Chihuahua puppy, those who imagine the Republicans will fix Obama’s mess are expecting the little puppy to save them from the hungry lion.

If you think I am wrong listen to George Soros, he has already said that if the race is between Romney and Obama it makes little difference who wins.


102 posted on 04/26/2012 6:42:42 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

From EWTN: The US Bishops are emphasizing that their opposition to the Obama administration’s contraception attempt to impose its narrow definition of religion on the country.
‘Indeed, this is not about the Church wanting to force anybody to do anything,’ said the administrative committee of the U.S. conference of Catholic Bishops in a March 14 statement.
Instead, they explained, it is ‘about the federal government forcing the Church’ consisting of its faithful and all but a few of its institutions’ to act against Church teachings.’

How Catholic are YOU? My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


103 posted on 04/26/2012 6:51:25 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: RipSawyer
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"excellent" ...

please forward to rush limbaugh ... who must be "severely" perplexed today ...

/sarcasm-off


we have been betrayed ...

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104 posted on 04/26/2012 6:57:12 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Sirius Lee

Please see my comments especially #103. The important part of which is: “The federal government forcing the Church ‘consisting of its faithful and all but a few of its institutions’ to act against Church teachings.’

My Priest summed it up by saying, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’

The choice is Obama or the main Republican candidate. Please take a political science class that explains the election process in the USA. Historically, 3rd Party candidates >destroy one candidates’ chance of being elected.


105 posted on 04/26/2012 7:01:06 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: who knows what evil?

As a faithful living Catholic, I’m obligated to vote only >once. I cannot control the votes of any other person be they >living or >dead.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger.’


106 posted on 04/26/2012 7:06:07 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: kingu
Dear Fellow Conservative Thinker,
Should this Romney thing survive the Convention and the RINOs succeed in making him the candidate, I will indeed brave Holder's Black Panther Club-Wielders, go to my precinct and vote for the silly SOB. (Providing of course he does not select the non-Natural Born Citizen, Marco as his running mate.)

I think of Romney as MacDonald's Ice Cream, an aerated, non-dairy, non-fat, non-sugar product, whipped up and extruded in any flavor one might desire, except that Romney comes in only artificial vanilla. (B-b-but I asked for Peach!)

From the smell emanating from the RNC, I would say that it is already a dead GOP. My problem is "What do we do in the meantime, while the common-sense people out there figure it out?" Any Third Party right now means 25 years of Democrat Administrations.

As far as your suggestions for straight talk to minorities: FUGGEDABOUTIT. Your ideas of "straight talk," which coincide with mine, will only cause your average welfare sucker to lose self-esteem and vote several times against your candidate.

What I (ME) hope will happen is that we will have two or three more midterms in which the real people take back the House AND THE SENATE and begin the long, arduous, constitutional course correction, which is the only thing that will save the Republic. Think of Romney as President with the House and Senate holding his feet to a Conservative blaze after a midterm replay on steroids of the 2010 election.

May not work the first time, but at least the fake vanilla might melt a little.

107 posted on 04/26/2012 7:13:29 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’m not >FORCING anyone to vote for anyone.

It’s a sin to tell a lie.

Please repent the sin in your life & kneel now before Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness. ‘Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect.’

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


108 posted on 04/26/2012 7:16:42 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Biggirl

Please take a political science course between now & the election. There are on-line courses & home-study books.

We are Obligated by God to be good-citizens and participate with knowledge about the election process.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


109 posted on 04/26/2012 7:21:27 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: caww

I have already replied to you in comment #103. Please read it again.

I’m voting for >Anybody but Obama. Because of the election process in the USA being a basically a TWO party system, I’m voting for the Republican candidate. We are ALL obligated by God to understand the duties of citizenship.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


110 posted on 04/26/2012 7:29:22 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd
Please take a political science class that explains the election process in the USA. Historically, 3rd Party candidates >destroy one candidates’ chance of being elected.

Please pick up a history book about the origins of the Republican Party - pssst, it was a 3rd party.

You would also do well to bone up on the Bull Moose Party. Yes, the purpose of a 3rd party candidate is to destroy one or both of the other candidates chances of being elected. That is the point of running! Maybe a book on logic would help you too.

The GOP candidate is a liberal
The Constitution Party's candidate is a Conservative
Conservatives vote for Conservatives, therefore if you claim to be a Conservative you have to vote for...

111 posted on 04/26/2012 7:37:24 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: muawiyah

Interesting. The Texas governor seemed to have been eliminated for almost no reason, or did I miss something? Mr. Cain got “smeared” with no proof (by a woman linked to a high-level BHusseinO operative— that could’ve been the more significant story but the media never informed us any more about it)? Sen. Bachman’s campaign seemed to be going fairly well and then? Newt sounds very intelligent and knowledgeable/prepared but we’re repeatedly told he can’t get the nomination because “the party insiders don’t want him??” What’s that about? Who are those people? Do we know? Well, politics is like sausage, maybe you don’t really want to know what goes into it or how its made? Except it is a bit curious. And we all get to live with the consequences. (One thing, the caucuses look too-easily mis-used or manipulated ...?) Thanks for your info!


112 posted on 04/26/2012 7:40:51 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (why is illicit sex good politically for only one party's politicians?)
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To: faithhopecharity
Perri Caliente is the personae sometimes excuded by Perry when his Mexican base is touched on ~ think of it as his third-rail.

This time it got touched and he screeched out "HEARTLESS"

That right there is when he lost it.

113 posted on 04/26/2012 7:46:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sirius Lee

Please, take a political science class.

The 1860 election was between the Republican party & the Democratic party. Abraham Lincoln received 180 electoral votes as a Republican candidate. The 3rd & 4th political parties did not affect the outcome in the electoral college.

If you are maintaining, that you are working to build a ‘New’ political party >so be it. Please tell us the name of the >New political party & how viable it will be.

We will all stand before the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ. We will ALL give an answer for >thoughts, words, what we do, & what we fail to do.

This is a repeat of one of my earlier comments as to why the choices are Obama or Romney:
MONEY is the ‘mother’s milk of politics.’

To say it once again: My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


114 posted on 04/26/2012 7:54:22 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd

I voted on Tuesday’s GOP primary, so I take my voting serious and I DID not vote for Romney, I voted for Newt out of protest. If need be, during the general, I will write-in.


115 posted on 04/26/2012 8:07:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: gghd

The questions that I have in regards to the Mormon faith is these two, why the “extra book” called the Book of Mormon and why you do not put a Cross on the top of your temples?

Without the Cross of Christ, there cannot be a risen and living Lord.


116 posted on 04/26/2012 8:15:08 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: gghd

“Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect.”

Translation: Try your very best, you will struggle, but I am for you because I LOVE YOU.


117 posted on 04/26/2012 8:18:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

THANK-YOU in shout-out for the excellent article. God Bless.


118 posted on 04/26/2012 8:19:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: gghd
The Constitution Party.

We will all stand before the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ. We will ALL give an answer for >thoughts, words, what we do, i.e. vote FOR the pro-death, pro-homo abortionist evil that is Obamney

& what we fail to do.

Then don't fail to vote for Goode.

119 posted on 04/26/2012 8:30:31 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: gghd
Unfortunately, sometimes in life we only get to choose between bad or worse.

One of the reasons I would commit suicide before I would vote for either 'bad' or 'worse'. You are voting for the temporary triumph of Satan over God in either case.

120 posted on 04/26/2012 8:43:52 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Biggirl

This is a reply to all >3 of your comments. I am a Roman Catholic.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger.’

I plan to vote for >anyone but Obama. I do not plan to waste by vote. I do NOT want Obama to be elected President again. I will vote for the Republican candidate.

As to the comment about ‘Try your very best, you will struggle, but I am for you because I love you.’

God gives >everyone the grace to get into Heaven. God gives >everyone the grace to become a —living saint—.

Matthew5:48, ‘So be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.’ In my Catholic Bible, the study note says, ‘Perfect’ in the gospels this word occurs only in Matthew, here and in 19, 21. The Lucan parallel (6, 36) >demands that the disciples be merciful.’

Matthew19: 21, To the Rich Young Man, “Jesus said to him, ‘If you wish to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to (the) poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Luke6: 36, “Be merciful, just as (also) your Father is merciful.”

Thank you for being a Christian.

Please notice in the Catholic Bible, the ‘Teaching Authority of the Church’ uses the word >demands!!! We Catholics be >obligated to become living saints.

“Lord have Mercy!” “Lord give me strength!”


121 posted on 04/26/2012 8:49:45 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Sirius Lee

This has been discussed before. Please, see all my comments.

I will not >waste my vote.

As I have said, ‘My Priest said, Obama gave our Bishops the finger.’


122 posted on 04/26/2012 8:53:27 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: steve86

Repent your sins. Kneel before Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness.

I have explained my position.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’


123 posted on 04/26/2012 8:56:28 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd

I am both a Christian and a Catholic. Thank-you for making my day.


124 posted on 04/26/2012 9:00:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DemforBush

All good points.

I am not at all happy about the prospect of a President Romney, but it scares me much less than another term for Obamao.

Romney is a globalist, but, at least, he does not hate this country like the Dear Leader and the people who put him in power.


125 posted on 04/26/2012 9:03:58 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: gghd
Repent your sins. Kneel before Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness.

For someone who claims to be "Roman" Catholic, you sure have mastered the art of speaking Protestant.

126 posted on 04/26/2012 9:04:16 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Salvation

If Romney does win, I think we all must work very hard to found a new third party or bolster an existing third party in time for the next presidential election.

If Dear Leader wins again, don’t bother, as there will not be any more elections.


127 posted on 04/26/2012 9:07:35 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: steve86

Praise God & for His blessings to be able to speak a different language than my own.

steve86 if you are a Catholic, you need to talk to a Priest about your comment on ‘suicide.’

Everyone in the world is given life itself from God. Our very lives >belong to God & not ourselves.

Everyone in the world needs to kneel before Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness. >Perfect contrition works for >everyone.


128 posted on 04/26/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: muawiyah

Not sure I fully comprehend Texas (or any other) politics, but from what I have seen.. there are a few honest, decent, capable, reasonable candidates from a fairly wide range of the political spectrum actually, I don’t have to agree with everything they stand for to respect them....... (but these people often get weeded out), and then there are the rest of them - including especially the “corruptoids” (who should get weeded out, but usually win instead). My Father always said that we (as a society) get the kind of politicians we deserve (that is, the pols reflect the morals of the masses), but that is such a depressing thought! One thing I’ve learned is that honest, decent people are quite vunerable if only because they don’t expect, and are less prepared to employ, the type of “mean” or dishonest tactics that seem to win most of the time? There is definitely something in our culture that needs more attention than we are giving it....?


129 posted on 04/26/2012 9:14:57 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (why is illicit sex good politically for only one party's politicians?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Call me anything you like ... I would understand, too ...

But my gut feeling is that Mitt Romney WILL NOT be the GOP 2012 Presidential Nomonee ...

It's gonna be Newt and Sarah Palin ...

I guess it's just intuition ... who knows ...

Just for S and G, how they going to get Romney to step aside?

130 posted on 04/26/2012 9:26:24 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: muawiyah

Not sure I fully comprehend Texas (or any other) politics, but from what I have seen.. there are a few honest, decent, capable, reasonable candidates from a fairly wide range of the political spectrum actually, I don’t have to agree with everything they stand for to respect them....... (but these people often get weeded out), and then there are the rest of them - including especially the “corruptoids” (who should get weeded out, but usually win instead). My Father always said that we (as a society) get the kind of politicians we deserve (that is, the pols reflect the morals of the masses), but that is such a depressing thought! One thing I’ve learned is that honest, decent people are quite vunerable... if only because they don’t expect, and are less prepared to employ, the type of “mean” or dishonest tactics that seem to win most of the time? There is definitely something in our culture that needs more attention than we are giving it....?


131 posted on 04/26/2012 9:28:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (why is illicit sex good politically for only one party's politicians?)
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To: faithhopecharity
For starters, we need to figure out exactly how so many other capable candidates were left behind or defeated in the Republican primary/caucus selection process.

I think the posted article gave a pretty good hint. The selection process is already over before the primaries begin. We vote and caucus like good party members, shoveling money into the candidates campaigns (and even more into the parties war chest). Meanwhile the media pundits publish polls designed to winnow the ranks of the candidates. The party pressures candidates w/ "low" numbers to withdraw and presto we have a presumptive winner w/o the required number of electors to win which is not a problem because all the rejected candidates (except Newt) are being "good sports" and are falling all over themselves saying "here take mine".

I would feel much better about the process if all candidates campaigned w/ a set budget, funded from the treasury, with no personal funds allowed. Such campaigning to end at a set date followed by a single night of primaries with every state participating in a statewide vote (caucus is what you do to a leaky boat). I'd feel even better if all states ran their elections with photo ID.

If DOJ thinks requiring photo ID disenfranchises voters what about me voting in the Wisconsin primary when the final decision has already been made? There is no point in a Wisconsin primary so the entire state has been "disenfranchised"!

The system is inherently corrupt and is open to manipulation by the party elite (and you better bet they like it that way). Money is the lifeblood of politics and as long as we leave funding campaigns a private affair millionaires will buy Senate seats and billionaires will buy the Presidency. So it was, so it shall ever be...
Unless we the people...
Change...
The...
Rules!!!

Regards,
GtG

132 posted on 04/26/2012 9:49:19 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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133 posted on 04/26/2012 9:54:00 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: going hot
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Romney won't be asked to step aside at the Tampa GOP Convention ...

O-Romney will be thrown over-board (with extreme prejudice) by the Conservative Delegates ....

Why ?

First, O-Romney (Etch-A-Sketch) will listen to his "genius" GOP Elite-Insider Consultants ...

and start veering to the Left ... where O-Romney lives anyway ...

Day by day, week by week ... O-Romney will show himself to be a "mormon clone" of Juan O-McCain ...

then the O-Romney Gaffes will keep coming ... like Beatles hits during the Sixties ... week after week ...

by August ... "genuine" Conservatives will have "severe" doubts about O-Romney ...



Meanwhile ... behind the scenes ... Newt, Santorum, Sarah, Rick Perry will have banded-together ...

to stop another GOP Juna Mcain Fiasco for the 2012 cycle ...

this alliance will suddenly emerge at the GOP Convention ...

and torpedo O-Romney ...



Meanwhile, "back at the ranch" ... the Liberal MSM ...

thinking that O-Romney is the "target" will STUPIDLY start carpet-bombing Mittens ...

every day, every week ...

just like Joe Biden's (today's) attack on Romney's foreign policy ....

and the already emerging attacks against Mormonism ... as per the remark (yesterday) on the "Morning Joe" show ...



Obama and Axelrod, in their desperation to win (they KNOW how BAD Obama's poll numbers REALLY are) ...

will PREMATURELY start carpet-bombing Mittens ... Bain Capital, Firing People, Secret Federal Tax Returns, Luxury Cars and Homes ...



Unfortunately ... by August 2012 ... O-Romey will appear to both a "public remark imbecile" ... Quisling Leftist ... and "completely unelectable) ... 2012 version of Juan McCain ...

especially to the GOP Convention delegates ...



Romney has made a STRATEGIC MISTAKE ... he wants to win so badly, that's he's "forced" that win (although it's Fox News propaganda) ... way too early ...

and those "hard-core Christian" GOP Convention delegates from Texas, California (et al) ...

that O-Romney effective "stiffed" ...

will happily send O-Romney to the Planet Kolob at the Tampa Convention ...



A brokered convention IT WILL BE ...

with Newt Gingrich the Presidential Nominee ... with Sarah Pain as VP ...



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134 posted on 04/26/2012 9:56:06 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

apologies for misspellings ...


135 posted on 04/26/2012 9:58:54 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
I could get behind that!

Especially with SP on the top of the ticket.

136 posted on 04/26/2012 10:01:55 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Diogenesis
Well let's look at the other guy:

Backstabber. Check
Liar. Check
Panderer. Check
Dog abuser eater.
Ineligible. Check
Romney ObamaCARE. Check
Constitution destroyer. Check
TARP helper PLUS!. Check
Sharia supporter (goes without saying)
911 Mosque Supporter. (duh)
Follows New York Times Agendae to the “t” (duh)
Etch-a-sketch No integrity. Check
Loser ("I won.")
Judicial Nominations for ... DNC from hell
Sent Legions to destroy Conservatives Check
Despised in Massachusetts throughout the world
Failed as Governor in everything
Cheats (eg. Iowa) as a way of life.

Your choice.

Or do you guarantee that we'll take the Senate, keep the House and have no-compromise gridlock for the next four years to hopefully slow the decline?

137 posted on 04/26/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: gghd
I will not >waste my vote.

Of course not. You'll vote FOR Goode. Only someone evil would vote FOR one of the pro-homo pro-baby-killing candidates.

‘My Priest said, Obama gave our Bishops the finger.’

And I say, a vote for either Ayatollah Obama or Bishop Romney is like giving the finger to God.

On which side do you want to be? The one that actively works evil, or the side that fights for Goode?

138 posted on 04/26/2012 10:11:31 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Small problem, the man's got a rather well oiled machine, on the ground, in all fifty states. That goes a long way, and is a must for national office contention.

His competition in the primaries had/have very little prep on the same ground, as shown by the results so far.

The republican party is not about conservatism, or liberalism, or anything in between as the primary drive. It is about winning the most votes in novemebr, for the most amount of candidates.

Conservatives pull it to the right, as much as they can. They need to be on the rope to keep pulling, or the left segments pull it the other way. There is no rest.

Taking a break from pulling allows the rope to go further left.

Romney is a politician first, and a party member second. He heads in a direction that he and his advisors think will get the most votes.

Maybe the advisors and he are way off base, but he is getting the votes.

So, I just don't see sufficient ground swell forming in august to dump him for someone else.

139 posted on 04/26/2012 10:12:21 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: gghd

It’s very clear why you are voting for Romney. I will disagree with your reasoning just the same. Enough said.


140 posted on 04/26/2012 10:24:21 AM PDT by caww
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To: Bigg Red

Or there will be a new American revolution should Obama win.


141 posted on 04/26/2012 10:24:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Thank you for your reply. I do believe our conversation has gone about as far as it can.

I plan to vote for >anybody but Obama. I will vote for the Republican candidate = ‘God willing & the creek don’t rise. or Come Hell or high water!’ I will NOT waste my vote.

My Priest said, ‘Obama gave our Bishops the finger!’

Luke6: 22, “Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude and insult you, and denounce your name as evil on account of the Son of Man.”

Luke10: 3, “Go on your way; behold, I am sending you like lambs among wolves.”


142 posted on 04/26/2012 10:34:45 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: caww

Thank you.


143 posted on 04/26/2012 10:37:08 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd
I will vote for the Republican candidate =

Which, if it's Romney means the pro homo, pro baby killer guy. Don't bring God into this, because you've clearly turned your back on Him.

"But my hands are only a little bloody." Won't cut it on Judgement Day.

144 posted on 04/26/2012 10:39:18 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: katiedidit1
Katie, the RNC could care less if we fight them or not. This is all pre-determined long before the public is involved.....we simply are the road bumps they anticipate get in their way and have no difficulty getting around us...just as we've seen.

Until we have the ability to focus ahead on “their ‘next’ move,” before it's played, we will not stand a chance of defeating their goals.

Watching Newt in this you could see him attempting to do just that. Romney had a ‘full court’ on the ground and behind the scenes for 8yrs. and the financial backing to make it happen. He also had many powerful leaders with the ability and means to strong arm any who resisted or got in their way.....while they make a point to keep us otherwise occupied on stupid trivial issues the media runs with.

We have to know their game plans and we don't...those who do and fight behind the scenes have to be very careful who they inform...which therefore we seldom know the plays ahead of time...but we have to learn how to “see” them or the possibilities.

Who would have guessed Romney would proclaim the win before the NRC without the delegates? I doubt if many could have called that one, but it cut off at the knees the push for convention pretty much....that and ‘slick Ricky’ dropping out so Romney could go for that gold unencumbered...... otherwise Rick would have had no choice but to object to Romney's going before the RNC...Santorum was in Romney's court “before” he dropped out without a doubt, so Romney could make this play before the RNC.

Bottom line is ‘Santorum’ was the cog they put in the wheel from anyone other than Romney crossing the finish line...most especially Newt....

The race was between Newt and Romney...Santorum was the moving target to distract attention, and funding, and hold voters captive so Romney could run with the ball... It worked.

145 posted on 04/26/2012 10:50:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation

This year’s election can be summed up with the following question:

Who will do more damage to America? Four more years of fast socialism opposed by the house (and hopefully the senate) or Eight years of slow socialism that is unopposed due to party loyalty.


146 posted on 04/26/2012 11:06:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: onyx
I’ll NEVER vote for that dirty scum bag liar.

Having continued to look even deeper at Romney and his organizations powerful leadership...we are in for a whole lot more than what even Obama might imagine.

"A ravenous wolf in sheeps clothing" hardly says enough...our candidates only got a taste of what this man has behind him to make things happen his way.....and he'll do so behind the scenes while he projects his concern for this nation.

Remember Romney barely made any coherent plans or statements to the public about why he wanted to be President or how he would change the trajectory of this country....because basically his primary objective is to BE President, and that with a Globalist intention in mind..of our nations roll in funding the One World Financial Agenda.

Obama has set the third world countries in motion...and Romney will now do so with Europe and the more wealthy countries. Especially since he has people on the ground Internationally....IMO Romneys a socialist in drag....

147 posted on 04/26/2012 11:09:02 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

No worries, mate. I think we are like-minded in regard to Romney. And many of the "vote for any body but Obama" crowd have their barbs out for us as we reveal Romney's Obama-like tendencies. So it's no big deal. Keep up the good fight.


148 posted on 04/26/2012 12:16:47 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: caww

You make a strong argument FRiend, and I admit I agree with you on many points. The notion I hold that Romney might govern from the center-right is admittedly as much about hopes for “half a loaf” as it is politics. Nothing’s guaranteed, except that conservatives have a rough four years ahead of them, no matter who wins.

Good post, btw.


149 posted on 04/26/2012 12:32:51 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: so_real

I see your point, and I agree to an extent. I had to hold my nose to vote for McCain in 2008 (only the presence of Palin made it easier), and I would not condemn any FReeper who refuses to support Romney. I have no doubt that Romney would have more than a little bit of “squishy socialism” in his administration’s policies.

The fear I have is that with a second Obama term, it will be far worse. I agree that it gives we conservatives a rallying point to oppose his agenda. I think we’ll see the results of that even this year in the House and Senate elections. I’m just not sure it will be enough.

The economy will eventually improve, and if things get better, Obama will benefit from it. Stalling the agenda of a President with a 47% rating is a lot easier than one with a 60%+ rating. If his public approvals rebound, Obama may be able to push through proposals that he otherwise could not have gotten done.

I also have doubts about the Senate. The overwhelming support for Sotomayor and Kagan (68-13 and 63-37, respectively), gives me the willies at the thought of and second term Obama SCOTUS nominations.

That’s all just my opinion, of course. I certainly see where you’re coming from as well, and respect that view.


150 posted on 04/26/2012 12:44:35 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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