Rational Conservatism - is that like Rational Diplomacy?
Posted on 04/25/2012 7:18:48 AM PDT by Gennie
Newt Gingrich to officially end bid for Republican presidential nomination and back Mitt Romney, sources tell CNN.
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We differ on the Newt/Santorum issue, but I agree with everything else in your post. It is definitely a huge letdown to wind up with Romney after all the excitement in 2010. Saying that, I agree we have to vote for the only candidate that has any chance of beating Hussein - even if only to stop the Supreme Court from going hard left. Most of this talk about not voting or voting 3rd party will diminish as we get closer to November.
What is with all the fricking trolls lately??? Oh well, I always enjoy the comments on Zot threads as humiliating morons is awesome!!!
Hang in Newt, hang in! What have you got to lose at this point? Go for brokered!
Send him an e-mail asking him to stay in if he can. I told him this was always going to be a tough day in the northeastern states where Mitt’s home base is. He was polling close to Mitt in TX yesterday and ahead of Mitt with evangelicals there. The upcoming states are much more favorable to true conservatives than Tuesday’s states were. We need Newt’s delegates, ideas and influence at the convention.
I like Sarah as Sec. of Energy that would be cool.
Do you think she would accept a cabinet position?
What about Sec. of the Interior?
I have supported Rick Santorum, but it wasn’t without noticing that he couldn’t seem to help himself from making mistakes. In my perfect world, Rick isn’t someone I see leading out with regard to Conservatism. I don’t think he’s well grounded.
This was a terrible year for Conservatism during the run up to the nomination process.
I appreciate your comment. No offense intended.
But it's a pretty good bet if the poster says that folks who won't vote for Romney are kooks and socialists.
There's yer sign.
/john
I doubt it...Obama doesn’t know anything about goodness. Neither does Willard.
I am so looking forward to meeting you at the TCMS.
The sleeper and n00b trolls always come out of the woodwork in presidential election years.
Well, she did say that, didn’t she. A moment of indiscretion, forever at TBL. Poor gal.
I am glad I am not the only one who noticed that as well. I think it might say more about “us” than them. But heck that is only one man’s opinion.
It might be a momentum thing. Would be nice to have primaries on one day. Little states get more power than the big states CA & TX.
Kind of like how FL voters in north FL quit voting because the state had already been called for.
You’re gonna get to be there??? That is awesome! I look forward to meeting yourself, too! :)
This is gonna be fun!
Would kinda' remind me of Bush/Cheney in that the vp would have greater responsibilities than just going to funerals.
Cheney was a jewel and the Bush/Cheney team seemed to work in tandem very well.
And, each are kinda' alike but not kinda' alike so they could keep each other in check on one hand and bolster each other publicly on thoughts and goals they share on the other hand.
It’s over. Finally. Should have dropped out when Santorum started drubbing him in the midwest.
Now that he was only taking delegates away from Romney, it was time for Romney’s best friend to quit.
Thanks Newt. Really appreciate what you did here.
I would imagine that Fred Thompson would feel slighted by your not putting him on the RINO honor roll.
This is, and has been the game for the last 4 months.
Gingrich folds to Romney who folds to Obama.
All the conservatives who voted for Gingrich were handing the nomination to Romney. The only thing that could have stopped him was a Santorum win in MI and OH, and elsewhere. That didn’t happen because too many people voted for Gingrich and didn’t see the game that was being played.
Once Santorum dropped I knew that Obama would be re-elected. Quote me, and see if that’s not how the rest of the year plays out. I guarantee you, it will happen.
Perfect description of the pandering fraud from Mass.
Perfect description of the pandering fraud from Mass.
Thanks Gennie.
He's a liberal. I'll campaign against him.
/johnny
I am encouraged because the show Tosh.O posted a link to Obama slow-jamming on Jimmy Fallon last night.
I would say over half to even a vast majority of the comments are very negative toward Obama....and the people who watch this show tend to be younger.
Here's Irrational Conservatism; WHAT! Newt's supporting Romney... @$%E&**(.>Ar%$%$hk, not gunna vote... 57r9)@#$^**(_, hope Obama wins...w5$&^&9^798-0&(*-... they'll be sorry...%@#$%#$%&&^!#&#$... damn em all to hell... ^&T*&9^7@$#@#&(%#@!!!!!!!
You people are nuts if you think Romney would appoint Palin, Newt or Santorum to anything. The liberal GOP establishment despises these people. McCain was a maverick who did his own thing, not a cozy member of the establishment. Romney is a card-carrying establishment status quo drone. He will do exactly what the party wants, which will be to totally and completely marginalize true conservatives and Tea Party types. Just as they’re redistricting Allen West out of existence right now, they’ll use whatever tools at their disposal to destroy conservatives. Just as their cohorts at FOX have banned Newt from appearing on the channel again, and have been talking about “regretting” that they ever gave a voice to conservatives like Newt, which only built their support base and helped them challenge the RINOs in the primaries. Elect Romney and see the Tea Party and true conservatives eaten alive by “their own.”
Nothing rational about thinking progressive Mitt will "bring the country back to its roots." That's just utterly moronic and laughable. Romney is an insidious and dangerous enemy to conservatism. He and other GOP establishment insiders are hard at work doing everything they can to destroy conservatism and remove it from the Republican party and platform.
Once his foolish supporters made the completely unvetted, untested, unexamined Santorum surge in February after his candidacy had been going nowhere fast, many of us knew the nomination had been handed to Mitt. They started the vote-splitting and donation-splitting against Newt and kept it going until Newt was no longer even being covered by the media. Santorum's candidacy was nothing but hot air based on endorsements from religious leaders and their sycophantic followers who can't think for themselves. There was little to no intrinsic appeal to his candidacy and as people got to know him and see him stumble and fumble in action, his support waned until he could no longer win primaries. There is one group of people to blame for losing this primary and those are the Santorum supporters who jumped to him out of nowhere due to endorsements despite him spending months not appealing to anybody on his own merits.
“This is what happened to me in 2008. Thompson dropped out before i could vote for him. All that were left were RINO.”
Yep, same here (Missouri). I still don’t know why he bothered running. Hopes were so high for him, but it didn’t seem like he even tried.
“It IS the best course IMO.”
Except for the problem that BHO is (and will do so even more in a second term) going around Congress - bypassing them altogether - when he wants to do something they don’t like. Totally unconstitutional, but so far none of them have even MENTIONED impeachment over it. Romney, Clinton, most presidents, could be blocked by Congress.
But not this one.
Thompson campaigned in 2008? I don’t think he ever left his hammock. He wasn’t a real candidate, but a place holder. I suspect the same thing of Newt. Why did he wait until Santorum dropped out? Once it was obvious his campaign was going nowhere he simply helped Romney.
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See ya Bye!
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‘Once his foolish supporters made the completely unvetted, untested, unexamined Santorum surge in February after his candidacy had been going nowhere fast, many of us knew the nomination had been handed to Mitt.”
This only happened after Gingrich lost in Florida. Gingrich had already proven then that he could not defeat Romney. Gingrich had to win in Florida and he wasn’t even competitive.
“They started the vote-splitting”
What state did Santorum cost Newt?
“Santorum’s candidacy was nothing but hot air”
And he carried 11 states. How many states did Newt carry again?
“endorsements from religious leaders”
So what’s wrong with that?
“their sycophantic followers who can’t think for themselves.
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So we are bitter clingers? Sounds to me like something Obama would say.
“There was little to no intrinsic appeal to his candidacy”
Which is why he kept winning red states despite getting outspent by Romney? Santorum had the grassroots support across the country.
“There is one group of people to blame for losing this primary and those are the Santorum supporters who jumped to him out of nowhere”
No, the only ones responsible are the Gingrich supporters who handed Romney Ohio and Michigan, along with Alaska and Wyoming.
Thanks for that by the way. When Obama gets re-elected, we’ll have you to thank for it. Appreciated.
Yes! Woo Hoo! I finally talked Hubby into going. I’ve been mooning over the pictures and stories long enough!
Rational Conservatism - is that like Rational Diplomacy?
Politicians don't like to quit, because when they do, contributions dry up and they have bills to pay.
>> sometimes elections aren’t at all about voting “ for” anyone, but about stopping an evil before it can grow worse <<
With you 101%! And absolutely no disagreement with your previous post on the Hitler theme.
I wish Newt, Rick, and their best buddy Mittens the best of luck. Actually, no, I don’t; I wish they would stay on the golf course and leave the governing of this country to people who actually care about it.
Now that Tom Smith has defeated the GOP-e plant for PA’s Senate seat, he’s going to get a lot of the time and money I initially reserved for the presidential nominee. Let Mittens foot the bill for his etch-a-sketch campaign.
?? I’m not seeing it.
Yes, we Conservatives are going to have to look to a single candidate long before the nomination process if we are going to stop this from happening again.
Sad but true.
The problem is, you actually need a candidate worth rallying around....Newt just sucked less than the rest of them.
It is true, how can a major Party field such lightweights!
The only surprise of this campaign has been the Santorum surge though it was too little, too late to compete effectively with the Romney machine. Gingrich’s performance was entirely predictable in November 2011. So was Perry’s unraveling predictable.
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