Posted on 04/23/2012 2:25:39 PM PDT by MindBender26
I have just learned from a friend in Seminole County law enforcement, who is very close to Zimmermann case, that the case against Mr. Zimmerman is even weaker than originally thought.
It seems that the police officer/technician who collected the evidence at the scene and signed the evidence report was not in any way qualified to do so.
He was much more of a breathalyzer technician and someone who would do field drug testing and initial toxicology reports at the scenes of suspected crimes. It is believed that the shooting was his first ever full crime scene investigation and he had not been trained to the standard levels of competency. The Sanford PD did not think the case against Zimmerman had nearly enough merit to bother doing a thorough investigation.
In addition, when the drug screens come back from Martin, they will show a host of recreational drugs. All of this is further circumstantial evidence of potential irrational activity on the part of Mr. Martin, and remember, the State has already admitted that they have no evidence as to who started the fight.
There's more: There is another very interesting point of law coming to the forefront. It may easily be held that regardless of who started the fight, when Martin slammed Zimmerman's head onto the concrete with the force that he did, that act became Assault With A Deadly Weapon, (the concrete,) and at that point Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, with deadly force if necessary, regardless of what had happened up to that point.
We shall see.
Article restating the obvious. Zimmerman has the right to defend himself with deadly force if Martin attempts to slam his head in the concrete. Not afterwards. He didn't have to succeed for Zimmerman to be justified in using deadly force.
hehe :DD
If, for some reason, SYG is not applicable (and I have some doubts on that point), the AWDW/SD argument will be made. IF Zimmerman’s attorney has even a glimmer of competence.
LMAO!!!!
This incident was made to order for a racial conflict crisis and as Rahm Emanuel said "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before".
Liberals don't like Florida's gun laws and they absolutely hate the SYG law. Add that to an upcoming election and they think they're in high cotton.
Didn’t you hear? - Obama is involved in this case and he is a white African - just like Zimmerman who is a white Hispanic.
“when Martin slammed Zimmerman’s head onto the concrete with the force that he did, that act became Assault With A Deadly Weapon, (the concrete,) and at that point Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, with deadly force if necessary, regardless of what had happened up to that point. “
That’s been my unqualified opinion all along just based on common sense. No matter what Zim did, right or wrong (short of unprovoked murder 1 which did not happen here) it was all null and void when Mr Hoodie decided to bang Zim’s head into the concrete because he did not like the way he was being looked at and followed by an official resident of the community. That to me is deadly force and no different then pulling a gun or knife.
I don't think Stand Your Ground applies.
It's more like the "Getting Beat Down Into The Ground" law...
I have a good friend, now retired, who packed heat under his robe every day in court.
Did Trayvon pass?
Has Zimmerman even claimed protection under the SYG law? Since Zimmerman claims to have been sucker punched and gone down, how does this law even enter into this case?
Anyone threatening a judge will find a host of LE types on their doorstep. Judges are REAL QUICK to drop the hammer on those who threaten them.
Other citizens, not so much.
So, if this judge is ethical, he will toss this out.
Brilliant post!!!LOL!!
You have me terrified to get out of my car now!ha.
How are the crime stats in the neighborhood since the night of the incident?
Nobody has seemed to question if in fact Trayvon had been burglarizing the neighborhood.
Kind of hard to retreat while supine, I agree. You've already given as much ground as the circumstances allow. IMO.
Zimmerman is entitled to a special hearing and could get the charges dropped a lot sooner, even if he didn't have to rely on SYG, otherwise.
I don’t know florida rules but,.... pretty much anyone can collect evidence. There are standard rules for collecting and if the rules are followed, it can be admitted into court. I can train anyone to collect evidence and as long as they can prove custoday, chain of evidence, and detail the steps they took in the collection, it will be admittede.
Trayvon was not exhaling much when they “examined” him.
I think O Mara’s seemingly nice guy image is one he has honed when being a TV analyst..and he does the ‘nice’ thing on purpose for the cameras.
As in, “Aw goly shucks..I guess we just don’t have the evidence. sorry.”
The person to be examined has to exhale a big breath into the machine and Trayvon was not exhaling much when they “examined” him.
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