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Zimmerman seeking release from jail on bond Friday [LIVE COVERAGE LINK]
NBC6 Miami ^ | Apr 20, 2012 | Brian Hamacher

Posted on 04/20/2012 7:19:36 AM PDT by kevcol

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To: Nervous Tick

[[“He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to Jehovah.” — Proverbs 17:15]]

Amen- hopefully the lawyers and prosecutors for the martins will have charges brought agaisnt htem when this is all over- however, in this current age, evil thrives while justice is derailed- We may have to wait until judgement day to see any real justice for zimmerman


141 posted on 04/20/2012 9:24:57 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

stand your ground was supposed to prevent the obsessive prosecutor who abhored people engaging in self defense.

BTW prosecutors are allowed to carry the same way as any law enforcement. (also judges carry and can pass through metal detectores without issue)


142 posted on 04/20/2012 9:26:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CottShop

I hope you don’t mind that I rather enjoyed your many typos, while still completely understanding and agreeing with your post. ;)


143 posted on 04/20/2012 9:27:32 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: PapaBear3625
..."A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force..."


This was tort reform to stop slap suits.

The tort lawyers want the stand your ground repealed for their own finances. The brady campaign/gun control inc. can't suit people because of this law.


144 posted on 04/20/2012 9:30:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CottShop

Zimmerman apology clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDmqFUJW3yE


145 posted on 04/20/2012 9:33:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: CottShop

Longer clip of Zimmerman Testimony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-JmtCXzs38


146 posted on 04/20/2012 9:34:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: rainee

[[In his apology, George also stated he didn’t know if Trayvon was armed or not & that he thought he was older, only little younger than him.

Any thoughts??]]

Any htoguhts? Yup- uit was a bad bad deal for george to get o nthe stand and say ANYTHING to the family- esp[ecially since hte family haqs pPROVEN that htey are NOT interested in hearing hte TRUTH- george apaprently wasn’t smart enough to figure otu that a woman who trademarks her dead son’s name, who LIES about the ebvidence, who LIES abotu what she first said would NEVER aqccept his apology aqnd woudl use that apology agaisnt him and use it to stir up more racvial hatred agaisnt him- just liek hte lawyers are doign right now- they are stirrign yup racial hatred by stating how furious the family is abotu the ‘Dis-ingenious’ apology (the lawyers word- I kid you not)


147 posted on 04/20/2012 9:34:58 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Mouton

[[Attorney now attacking the second degree charge with the Judge. “it is not a second degree murder charge just because the state’s attorney says it so”.]]

IF that is truly the case then this should have been thrown out TODAY- His lawyer should be pushign for an emergency quick trial to determine IF the state even has the right ot charge george with somethign that he isn’t guilty of


148 posted on 04/20/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Beaten Valve

[[How soon before “the pack” starts rioting??]]

As soon as the martin’s lawyers get doen raicebaiting the crowds and fanning the flames of racial hatred and tryign to get the case tried i nthe media- so in other words, any minute now


149 posted on 04/20/2012 9:40:04 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: kevcol

[[He just fired a warning shot to the State about their entire case - I hope they get the hint.]]

Don’t bet on it- martin’s lawyer after all called george’s apology ‘dis-ingenious’ (The word actually does a good job of describing the state’s intellect)


150 posted on 04/20/2012 9:42:58 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: PapaBear3625

Longer clip of Zimmerman apology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlbMg_jySo


151 posted on 04/20/2012 9:43:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: advertising guy

fox judges are rarely conservative. (napolitano supports homoeseuxal marriage) You have to wonder what kind of judge jumps to be a media regular.

Also remember ALL these idiots are in NYC. So they tend to be infested with NYC liberalism.


152 posted on 04/20/2012 9:43:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Never on my watch

lol- thanks- I’m not sdyslexic- just my typing finger is


153 posted on 04/20/2012 9:54:35 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GOPJ

If the State Prosecutor didn’t know about the Black Panther bounty - and the hundreds of other threats - she’s too out of touch to do her job.


The state had to put together a bunch of race pimping lies to do what they are doing. The prosecutor has to lie by omission (pretending she does not know what she does know) as her whole case is built on the body waste spilt during the black racist hate fest. In summary, her case is based on “git racist whitey” and “ban self defense.” Sick!

They Nifonged Zimmerman!


154 posted on 04/20/2012 10:00:24 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Never on my watch

“I hope you don’t mind that I rather enjoyed your many typos”


Forget it, he’s rolling!


155 posted on 04/20/2012 10:17:47 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: CottShop

The judge did not rule on the sufficiency of the complaint. He allowed bail. I guess the prelim will be where the argument will continue.

I see why the state did not go the grand jury process. In such a situation they would have been required to present info prejudicial to their case i.e. he had sustained wounds consistent with his position he was attacked by Martin. Using the complaint route, they loaded it up with every prejudical comment they could, like “he profiled” and “he confronted” when it seems as if there is no supporting evidence to their suppositions.

My sense is the prosecutor overcharged with the hope the matter goes to trial and the jury looks for some lesser offense to convict upon because there is someone dead. I would almost bet they will try to negotiate such a plea from the defense. Not being able to keep him in jail though means they lose a bit of leverage and a pro bono attorney is not going to be happy with a negotiated plea so, game on.


156 posted on 04/20/2012 10:23:15 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: SaraJohnson

” They Nifonged Zimmerman!”

Yep....here we go again.


157 posted on 04/20/2012 10:33:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I see the sleeze


158 posted on 04/20/2012 10:35:14 AM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Mouton

[[My sense is the prosecutor overcharged with the hope the matter goes to trial and the jury looks for some lesser offense to convict upon because there is someone dead.]]

I agree that that is what happend, and IO know this happens all the itme, but my goodness- it SHOULD BE agaisnt hte law to overcharge someoen when there is no evidence that hte person is guilty of the crimes i nthe charges- We are suppsoed to be protected i nthis countrty from false charges and fase imprisonment-

IF someoen suspects someoen of robbery, they can’t just arbitrarily bring any old chatges they like suchj as first degree or secodn degree murder charges IF there is no evidence that hte person cimmittec those crimes- they are not suppsoed to brign a levy of charges hopign that somethign will come out later that supports the charge- they are SUPPOSED TO ASLREADY HAVE EVIDENCE (cps just for emphasis- not yelling) that shows guilt- The lawyers for the martins admitted that htey don’t have any evidence to support the claims- and as such the judge hsould have thrown out hte case becasue the state could NOT even prove that bond was needed because htey could NOT prove that htre man in custody waqs guilty of the crimes cited in the affidavit- It seems to me george’s lawyer should have asked the judge why bail was even needed since the state could not prove george was guilty since htey had no evidence, as per their own testimnoy, that showed him guilty- It seems a bit backwards to me- IF someoen is not guilty, aqnd hte state doesn’t have the required evidence to show guilt, or even to suggest guilt, then the INNOCENT until proven guilty person, should not be penalized fuirther by havign to coem up with bail money- it seems htere should be a ‘pre-pretrial’ in order to determine if there is enough evidence to show guilt, or even to suggest guilt, and if not, then the innocent person who has been falsely imprisoned, shoudl NOT be penalized further

I undferstand that this isn’t how it works, but it just seems to me that none of his rights are being concidered while the state continues to railroad him- It seems to me that a judge should first determine IF the defendant has been falsely charged and falely imprisoned first before determing if bail shoudl be set or even required- IF he fuinds that false imprisonment has been perpetrated, then no bail should be necessary, and hte caswe shoudl be thrown out immediately, and htose that brought hte false charges shoudl then be charged with prosecutorial muiscionduct


159 posted on 04/20/2012 10:52:11 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

And the narrative continues to crumble.......

Watch CNN for 30 minutes (I know it’s a heavy burden). They’re not playing any footage (except the apology) from the hearing. Only Crump’s rant after the proceedings. Their also doing “Corey has a history of overcharging” stories.


160 posted on 04/20/2012 11:08:19 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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