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Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model?
Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

How about starting an overlapping model where you implement ads along with the fundraiser and roll in ad revenue like you roll in monthlies?

41 posted on 04/19/2012 2:12:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mygirlsmom

Please send me a freepmail message with your new amount and I will update it for you.

Thank you very much!!

42 posted on 04/19/2012 2:13:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The entry level question about advertising is how it would affect FR’s legal status. Would it violate the rules FR agreed to to settle any lawsuit over posting published material? Get us into gray areas in that respect?

43 posted on 04/19/2012 2:15:01 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ¬ďliberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Jim Robinson
or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

It's not your refusal to support Romney that's the problem.

It's your zotting everyone who says they are going to vote for Romney over Obama that's the problem especially since many of them are long-time residents here and have been loyal and generous donors.

Now, I don't like Romney. Come Tuesday, I'm voting for Gingrich. Then what?

Let's say Romney winds up being the nominee as is highly likely. You expect to have a thriving political site with discussion banned of either Romney or Obama this election year?

If Obama wins I think it's over for this nation. If Romney wins I think we are going to come back especially as how his coattails will bring in a lot of good people at the local level -- assuming of course that people who think like you (and me) don't stay home.

It's not about personalities or individuals anyway. It's about ideas and our ideas are on Romney's side.

So yes, I'm voting for Romney. Feel free to zot although I'm not asking for one.

Forget the advertising as I don't think people will be coming here with discussion banned regarding the presidential election.

If you want to save this site, what I'd suggest is you do a mea culpa and invite the Romney people back. You don't have to say you're going to support him, just that your not going to zot discussion of the guy.

44 posted on 04/19/2012 2:16:22 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am sorry I only donate $10 per month. I was hoping to double it last year but instead of a pay raise I got to keep my job. Others in my company did not and now my taxes have increased even though my income has not.

I would not complain if you allow ads but I worry that the advertisers may try to throttle FR and some of our posts. Although most of our language is fine I fear the “hard” elimination of some words may lead to the elimination of certain topics to placate advertisers who have proved themselves cowards when it comes to any sort of controversy. If FR becomes too reliant on the ad sales it could lead to the demise of our free association on this site.

Our Country is sliding towards the edge of the cliff and I think FR’s open debate is what is needed more than ever during these times.

Just my two cents. Take care.

45 posted on 04/19/2012 2:17:36 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Jim Robinson
It will be 12 years since I signed up here in October. I am used to the site and know how to use it relatively well, so I am averse to having it changed.

But of course, I'll go along with whatever you decide.
46 posted on 04/19/2012 2:19:52 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: onyx

Whaaa? I did not know that. Guess I’ll have to add two bucks to each donation. Does that include processing each automatic monthly donantion? Does a Pay Pal donation cost $2 to process as well?

47 posted on 04/19/2012 2:19:53 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us:
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s all up to you, Jim....I like it like it is.

48 posted on 04/19/2012 2:23:49 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: mnehring

Yes, it could be done. But again, we subject ourselves to the online ad market (advertising rates go up and down with the economy and sometimes tank completely) and there are no guarantees that they can sell enough ads for our account anyway. We also subject ourselves to the demands of our advertisers, put our forum at risk if we are competing with our sources for advertising revenue, puts more legal pressure on us, and lots of readers will simply take steps to avoid the ads altogether which will crimp us even further. Afraid we’ll end up having to do both or several combinations of all the above forever. Hoping we can just continue to keep it simple and remain non-commercial as we are.

49 posted on 04/19/2012 2:24:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d be OK with whatever you decide to do.

As always I’m open to producing FReeper gear as long as the proceeds go to FR.

50 posted on 04/19/2012 2:26:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EdReform; TheOldLady

It’s my understanding that all the credit cards, including pal pal charge a handling fee, which is the reason, Free Republic has a minimum donation of $3.00.

I rounded off the fee to $2, although I know it’s figured in a percentage.

I know whenever TheOldLady makes her donations, she always accounts for the handling fees. In the future, I intend to do that with my extra donations above my $1 A Day.

51 posted on 04/19/2012 2:28:32 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Has anyone done the math on how little each of us would need to donate, per year, to avoid all of this?

I know it would be minimal AND it would be difficult to figure as there IS a difference between registered users and ACTIVE users....

52 posted on 04/19/2012 2:30:55 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow! That is incredible. It looks like a lot of FReepers are free riding. It would seem to me that if you have advertisers, you would be at their mercy about what is said or posted. Like in NASCAR, you can’t say anything that would offend the bill payers.

53 posted on 04/19/2012 2:33:20 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: Osage Orange; Jim Robinson; onyx; DJ MacWoW; SoConPubbie; Colofornian
Well....I'm adverse to seeing you take on advertisement. Because of the control you give up.

For those of us who post frequently, it's already onerous enough to try to avoid copyright infringement...while the ads wouldn't bother me, I'm also against your giving up control which it seems would be part of the ad package.

I'd just as soon...see the non-paying FREEPER's pony up...$3 a month.

I'd agree.

Jim, one thing I've wondered during the past week or there any way to discover how many of the FReepers who are trying to wrest control of the content of FR from you donate to the site? I'm really disgusted with the constant diatribes against you and the continued posting of Romney support against your oft-stated rule against this support.

I recall a certain group of posters a couple of years ago who proudly proclaimed they would withhold donations unless you censored their pet subject being discussed. Somehow, many of them are no longer here since you didn't bow to their demands and despite their threats to "bring FR down", we're still here.

I also think a "$" next to the FReeper handle while I would approve, might be a tad discriminatory.

Frankly, I think freeloaders could afford the price of a Starbuck's once a month in order to participate on the best conservative site on the internet. That said, if they want to join in with the "I deserve that YOUR money is MY money Obama-mindset" it's on them.

54 posted on 04/19/2012 2:33:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Jim Robinson

I like the idea of “pay to post” - should be relatively easy to implement and seems to walk the fine line between various competing goals. Just by having posted you’d stand out as someone who has paid their way.

55 posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Jim Robinson

Perhaps a combo of Rush 24/7? I wouldn’t mind seeing a banner or an ad somewhere; however, I also like the idea of a paid membership.

56 posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If it’s not broke(n) don’t fix it. Did you get my message about the donation in memory of BAH BAH?

Like that you are in control. Would not like input or control being done by outside advertisers. Thinking of what happened to Rush lately. He’s got the money to survive, but would FR?

57 posted on 04/19/2012 2:36:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Jim Robinson

Just about 95% of the time I’m reading Freerepublic, it’s on my cellphone. Is there any way to set up donations by text message? It’s a lot simpler than having to dig out your credit card.

58 posted on 04/19/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Jim Robinson; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Write a Book on the History of Free Republic. Talk to Jeff and Matt/Travis about how to format it and get it on Kindle. I know a large number of Freepers would buy it and I bet you would get a lot of sales outside of Freeperdom also.

Nice thing about doing a book is Freepers can use the Amazon Associates system to help promote the book.

Lots of good moments to talk about Like Buckhead/post 42.

59 posted on 04/19/2012 2:38:23 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Brad's Gramma

One dollar per month would cover everything if 10% of our readers would reliably put it up.

39 posted on 04/19/2012 2:10:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

60 posted on 04/19/2012 2:38:36 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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