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Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: EdReform; TheOldLady

It’s my understanding that all the credit cards, including pal pal charge a handling fee, which is the reason, Free Republic has a minimum donation of $3.00.

I rounded off the fee to $2, although I know it’s figured in a percentage.

I know whenever TheOldLady makes her donations, she always accounts for the handling fees. In the future, I intend to do that with my extra donations above my $1 A Day.


51 posted on 04/19/2012 2:28:32 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Has anyone done the math on how little each of us would need to donate, per year, to avoid all of this?

I know it would be minimal AND it would be difficult to figure as there IS a difference between registered users and ACTIVE users....


52 posted on 04/19/2012 2:30:55 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow! That is incredible. It looks like a lot of FReepers are free riding. It would seem to me that if you have advertisers, you would be at their mercy about what is said or posted. Like in NASCAR, you can’t say anything that would offend the bill payers.


53 posted on 04/19/2012 2:33:20 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: Osage Orange; Jim Robinson; onyx; DJ MacWoW; SoConPubbie; Colofornian
Well....I'm adverse to seeing you take on advertisement. Because of the control you give up.

For those of us who post frequently, it's already onerous enough to try to avoid copyright infringement...while the ads wouldn't bother me, I'm also against your giving up control which it seems would be part of the ad package.

I'd just as soon...see the non-paying FREEPER's pony up...$3 a month.

I'd agree.

Jim, one thing I've wondered during the past week or so...is there any way to discover how many of the FReepers who are trying to wrest control of the content of FR from you donate to the site? I'm really disgusted with the constant diatribes against you and the continued posting of Romney support against your oft-stated rule against this support.

I recall a certain group of posters a couple of years ago who proudly proclaimed they would withhold donations unless you censored their pet subject being discussed. Somehow, many of them are no longer here since you didn't bow to their demands and despite their threats to "bring FR down", we're still here.

I also think a "$" next to the FReeper handle while I would approve, might be a tad discriminatory.

Frankly, I think freeloaders could afford the price of a Starbuck's once a month in order to participate on the best conservative site on the internet. That said, if they want to join in with the "I deserve that YOUR money is MY money Obama-mindset" it's on them.

54 posted on 04/19/2012 2:33:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Jim Robinson

I like the idea of “pay to post” - should be relatively easy to implement and seems to walk the fine line between various competing goals. Just by having posted you’d stand out as someone who has paid their way.


55 posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Jim Robinson

Perhaps a combo of both.....like Rush 24/7? I wouldn’t mind seeing a banner or an ad somewhere; however, I also like the idea of a paid membership.


56 posted on 04/19/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If it’s not broke(n) don’t fix it. Did you get my message about the donation in memory of BAH BAH?

Like that you are in control. Would not like input or control being done by outside advertisers. Thinking of what happened to Rush lately. He’s got the money to survive, but would FR?


57 posted on 04/19/2012 2:36:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Jim Robinson

Just about 95% of the time I’m reading Freerepublic, it’s on my cellphone. Is there any way to set up donations by text message? It’s a lot simpler than having to dig out your credit card.


58 posted on 04/19/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Jim Robinson; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Write a Book on the History of Free Republic. Talk to Jeff and Matt/Travis about how to format it and get it on Kindle. I know a large number of Freepers would buy it and I bet you would get a lot of sales outside of Freeperdom also.

Nice thing about doing a book is Freepers can use the Amazon Associates system to help promote the book.

Lots of good moments to talk about Like Buckhead/post 42.

59 posted on 04/19/2012 2:38:23 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Brad's Gramma

One dollar per month would cover everything if 10% of our readers would reliably put it up.

39 posted on 04/19/2012 2:10:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson


60 posted on 04/19/2012 2:38:36 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: onyx
I figured if you pay thru Paypal....it's a percentage.

I know Paypal...takes a % of every payment I receive thru them.

That said....I understand there's other cost's to receiving monies.

Okay...let's encourage all FReeper's to give at least $5 a month...!!!

Thanks-

61 posted on 04/19/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I say we mandate that every citizen views FR at least once a day. If they don’t, they must pay a penalty to keep the servers running for the rest of us.


62 posted on 04/19/2012 2:40:17 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

I donate $10 per month and occasionally pony more during Freepathons.

Didn’t know about the $2 per month it costs. Here’s another $50 to cover some of what FR has been charged for processing.

I love Jim, John, and Free Republic!


63 posted on 04/19/2012 2:40:27 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Only $1 buck per year per reader if every one of our users did it religiously. Or $1 buck per month if only 10% of our registered members did it reliably.


64 posted on 04/19/2012 2:41:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: JediJones

JediJones for President!!


65 posted on 04/19/2012 2:43:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

An FR book...that’s a really good idea.


66 posted on 04/19/2012 2:43:38 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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To: Tribune7
If you want to save this site, what I'd suggest is you do a mea culpa and invite the Romney people back.

Save this site??????

67 posted on 04/19/2012 2:43:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Jim Robinson
Write a Book on the History of Free Republic. Talk to Jeff and Matt/Travis about how to format it and get it on Kindle. I know a large number of Freepers would buy it and I bet you would get a lot of sales outside of Freeperdom also.

Best idea yet.

Chapter on the Dan Rather lie, chapter on FR lingo...endless opportunities for subject matter!

I know we have at least a couple of published authors here.

68 posted on 04/19/2012 2:48:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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69 posted on 04/19/2012 2:51:00 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Something funny about banner ads, I was on a conservative-oriented news site the other day that was displaying liberal banner ads, “Recall Scott Walker” and the like. Hopefully FR could put a filter on those.


70 posted on 04/19/2012 2:51:06 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Could you maybe set up affiliate-style links like to Amazon books/products so maybe you wouldn’t have to deal with an ad agency?


71 posted on 04/19/2012 2:53:54 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: FrogMom

Thank you very much, FrogMom!!


72 posted on 04/19/2012 2:54:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Eepsy; John Robinson
"Just about 95% of the time I’m reading Freerepublic, it’s on my cellphone. Is there any way to set up donations by text message? It’s a lot simpler than having to dig out your credit card."

That's a question for John.

73 posted on 04/19/2012 2:56:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; FReepers



Thank You Jim Robinson
Thank You Donors


74 posted on 04/19/2012 2:57:15 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Jim Robinson

Most welcome!

Anyone else?


75 posted on 04/19/2012 2:58:00 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes. And I agree. Fix the broken parts only. Leave all else alone. Thank you very much! God bless.


76 posted on 04/19/2012 2:58:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Osage Orange; FReepers; FRiends
Thanks very much, dear Osage Orange!!!!!









Make it $7 and FR will get the whole $5.00 for sure!

77 posted on 04/19/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If we were to open ourselves to advertising, how about strictly conservative ones? Along w/ a membership fee. Non paying members can still post, but be limited to how many per month.

Perhaps if enough of us contact Rush, we can get Two If By Tea, The Heritage Foundation, etc.

Personally, I do enjoy taking care of ourselves, but it seems to get harder and harder each FReepathon.

I wish more people would step up.


78 posted on 04/19/2012 3:00:32 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: OldMissileer

Thank you very much, OldMissileer!! And that’s one of the reasons I’ve resisted going commercial all these years. I’d much prefer being beholden to no one but our like-minded loyal participants!!


79 posted on 04/19/2012 3:03:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, You can do both and it won’t harm the quality of the product. I suspect that your loyal Freepers will contribute at any time you need help and feel that money will do the job...you need - you have a great deal of TRUST built into your friends who post.


80 posted on 04/19/2012 3:03:43 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: onyx
It costs almost $2.00 to process a donation.

So, would it be better to do chunks of donations instead of monthlies?

***************************** I think it would be neat to 'sell' premiums like t-shirts, coffee mugs or mouse pads, etc.
(wonder how much that generates for sites?)

81 posted on 04/19/2012 3:04:00 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Jim Robinson

So you decided to ban me for simply disagreeing with you?

You piece of cowardly filth, you can ban this account too, and stick this entire forum in the crease. I am sure you would rather have obsama in that place.

You talk about a “Free Republic”? you you are a coward, and a liar, and a traitor, and will never be anything else.

My “opus” is a single finger wave good bye.

Are you man enough to leave this posted?

I did not think so.


82 posted on 04/19/2012 3:06:56 PM PDT by wendell dertah
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To: Jim Robinson

I hope things will be able to stay the same (FR is different, but I’m getting used to it & it’s definitely growing on me!), but whatever you do, Jim, will be fine.
Free Republic is The Best conservative news aggregator on the internet.
(I’m planning to bump my contribution $5 a quarter once the election is past, so my target is $100 a year...WELL worth it for constantly updated news & info)

:-) Oh. & please keep the little cartoon guy who winks, waves, & points (to the donate text) even if it’s just for posterity. It *always* makes me smile.


83 posted on 04/19/2012 3:08:21 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: wendell dertah


Support Our Beacon of Truth.

Donate, Monthly if you can.


Help abolish FReepathons by Donating Monthly!
Generous FReeper Sponsors are donating $10 for every New Monthly Donor!
Please Sign Up to Donate Monthly!


84 posted on 04/19/2012 3:09:17 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you getting funding/revenue from sites like this?

http://www.zazzle.com/free+republic+gifts

Might be neat, and probably a pain in the neck too, to offer premiums for ‘big’ donations.


85 posted on 04/19/2012 3:16:18 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: libertarian27; Jim Robinson

Automatic monthly donations would put an end to FReepathons were every, or a majority of regular users and members to donate monthly.

FReepers are truly the absolute best. FReepers always come through, even though it’s taking longer and longer. I know that Jim is concerned about the strain it’s putting on our loyal membership when every regular user doesn’t feel the need to donate. The Marxist’s unconscionable economy has hit a whole lot of us hard and despite the lamestream cheerleading, it’s not getting better.


86 posted on 04/19/2012 3:17:22 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: rightly_dividing
Wow! That is incredible. It looks like a lot of FReepers are free riding.

Wow indeed!! As a free rider I find it incredible long time donors are purged every year or so for speaking their minds. What did paying get them?

87 posted on 04/19/2012 3:17:23 PM PDT by fml
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To: JediJones

Nah, that’s exactly what you DON’T want to do!

With banner ads, all you are giving them is the exposure. No guarantees about type of audience or number of click-throughs, none of that. Exposure only.

If you start filtering content, you’d get sued or dropped so fast it’d make yur head spin.


88 posted on 04/19/2012 3:19:12 PM PDT by djf (If you are depressed all the time, at least you are never disappointed!)
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To: thackney
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it... - - - - - - -

Is 22% in 19 days really working?

It's not over yet. Wait until Tampa... Oops... wrong thread.

89 posted on 04/19/2012 3:20:08 PM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: onyx
Automatic monthly donations would put an end to FReepathons were every, or a majority of regular users and members to donate monthly.

I was just asking if it would be better to pay a larger chunk instead of monthly -say giving $120 as one chunk would be $2 processing fee - $120 over 12 months is $24 processing fee, right? (Just trying to understand the fee structure)

90 posted on 04/19/2012 3:21:57 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Tribune7

Uh, excuse me, but I have not zotted every Romney supporter. But I am a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty person and I cannot possibly vote for or support an abortionist, homosexualist statist for president and have posted that fact thousands of times on FR over the last six years or so since the abortionist, homsexualist, RINOs Rudy and Romney had the audacity to run for president as pretend conservatives. No way in hell will that change.

Whether or not Romney supporters get zotted depends 100% on the level of their demonstrated RINOism, belligerence, obnoxiousity, personal attacks, etc, against me, against our conservative candidates, against our conservative positions, or against our members.

I will never excuse Romney for his part in advancing the cause of the culture of death and or his part in murdering millions of our unborn or corrupting our young innocents by promoting and advocating the homosexual agenda or for forcing RomneyCare, now ObamaCare and a likely second term for the Marxist on our nation!!

FUMR!!

Sorry, but I cannot state it any plainer than that.


91 posted on 04/19/2012 3:22:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Conservative political (gun rights, etc) and/or tasteful non-political (home schooling book series, etc.) banner ads would be fine and even popular!


92 posted on 04/19/2012 3:23:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: onyx

What donations? I know somebody makes donations, but me? Uh...


93 posted on 04/19/2012 3:23:47 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: wendell dertah

You prove yourself the coward and liar with your second, devious account. Foul mouth, too.

I hope this account rides the lightning and fast!


94 posted on 04/19/2012 3:24:09 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: libertarian27

No, and I have no desire to participate in outside funding organizations. Not particularly interested in big donations either. They’d have strings attached.


95 posted on 04/19/2012 3:25:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
your call Sir... i just wish more people would skip ONE drink a month let alone one a week and help keep us flying
96 posted on 04/19/2012 3:26:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; Trish; musicman; The Cajun; JoeProBono; Lady Jag; ...
We are with you 100 percent, Jim!


97 posted on 04/19/2012 3:27:48 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: wendell dertah

Wow. What a Masshole you are.


98 posted on 04/19/2012 3:30:08 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: RedMDer

How could you argue with a man wielding a graphic like that. :)


99 posted on 04/19/2012 3:31:04 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Jim Robinson

100 ?


100 posted on 04/19/2012 3:33:18 PM PDT by tomkat ( ... shall NOT be abridged)
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