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BREAKING: Federal Appeals Court Upholds Most of Arizona Voter ID Law (9th Circuit!)
Stand With Arizona ^ | 04-17-2012 | John Hill

Posted on 04/17/2012 12:12:02 PM PDT by montag813

by John Hill
Stand With Arizona

In a ruling which demonstrated just how radical is the Obama Administration's opposition to Voter ID laws, the very liberal U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld Arizona's voter-approved 2004 law requiring voters to show proof of citizenship before receiving a ballot - a big victory in the battle against voter fraud in the runup to the November elections.

The Appeals Court mostly shot down the challenges to the law, which had itself been upheld in Arizona U.S. District Court. Arizona can demand to see certain forms of identification that proves citizenship, the court ruled.

And if someone doesn't have those forms of ID, paying the fees to obtain the ID isn't the same as a "poll tax."

However, the court also ruled that Arizona must not refuse federal voter registration forms, which work on the honor system by asking applicants to check a box indicating whether they're U.S. citizens. Arizona can't replace that form with its form that requires proof of citizenship, the court ruled. This is a remnant of the ultra-flawed National Voter Registration Act of 1993 ("Motor Voter Act"), which SWA has urged Congress to modify in future legislation.

But overall, the ruling is a major victory for Arizona voters, who overwhelmingly approved the law, and for Americans who support Voter ID laws with 73% support, according to a poll published just yesterday. And it may also be a preview of defeats yet to come for the Obama Administration's block of state Voter Id laws. including in Texas and South Carolina. Obama and his Attorney General Eric Holder have tried to pretend that the Supreme Court never ruled in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board (2008) , which upheld photo ID requirements for voting. But they are destined to lose big when the Texas and S.C. challenges get to the Federal courts.

Left-wing groups, including Chicanos Por la Causa, League of Women Voters, ACLU and Arizona's patron saint of illegal aliens, Sen. Steve Gallardo had all filed suit, among others. The plaintiffs in the case "did not prove that the ability of Hispanics to participate in the political process was lessened somehow because of the law", the Ninth found.

Judge Johnnie Rawlinson dissented, finding that Arizona could reject federal voter registration forms in place of its own form. Judge Harry Pregerson also dissented, but for a different reason. He believes the polling-place ID provision discriminates against Hispanics. The plaintiffs may appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; aliens; arizona; election; voting
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1 posted on 04/17/2012 12:12:11 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Another Holder fail.


2 posted on 04/17/2012 12:19:08 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: montag813

Yet here in WI a Dane County judge can hold ours up in court in an effort to cheat Walker out of victory...


3 posted on 04/17/2012 12:20:38 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: montag813

A wonderful development!!! Congrats to Arizona!


4 posted on 04/17/2012 12:21:42 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: montag813
From the 9th circus?!

Holy Flippin' Crap!

5 posted on 04/17/2012 12:21:42 PM PDT by LaybackLenny
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To: LaybackLenny

I couldn’t have stated it any better!


6 posted on 04/17/2012 12:24:21 PM PDT by Starrling
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To: montag813

Mexico Requires Voter ID`s Ha Ha Ha!!!

``Mexico’s national voter IDs part of culture``

Boosts country’s democracy

Mexican officials unveiled the voting ID two decades ago to properly identify electors in a country with a history of voters casting multiple ballots and curious vote counts resulting in charges of fraud — most notoriously in 1988 when a computer crash wiped out early results favoring the opposition.

The credential proved so good at guaranteeing the identification of electors that it became the country’s preferred credential, one now possessed by just about every adult Mexican. Its widespread acceptance deepened democracy, too, by giving credibility to the Federal Electoral Institute, analysts say. The agency was created as an independent agency to oversee federal elections.

“It’s a very important prop for support of that institution,” said Federico Estévez, political science professor at the Autonomous Technological Institute of Mexico. “What people really know about (the electoral institute) is the card.”

The card must be renewed every 10 years. This meant thousands of Mexicans whose cards were expiring had to apply for a new one prior to Jan. 15 if they wanted to vote in the July 1 presidential election, prompting long lines outside agency service centers.

People in the lines were clutching folders of documents needed for renewal: a birth certificate, another form of photo identification and a recent utility bill.``

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HSsGjcLJD_wJ:http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-22/mexico-national-voter-ID-cards/52779410/1+voter+id+required+in+mexico&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&strip=1


7 posted on 04/17/2012 12:24:49 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Mexicans need Voter ID`s??. Who knew?)
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To: montag813
Well this is going to throw a monkey wrench into the Obama campaign's recent voter drives in AZ. I hope he wasted a lot of campaign cash on that venture.
8 posted on 04/17/2012 12:25:14 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: montag813
Arizona can demand to see certain forms of identification that proves citizenship, the court ruled.

Not a big surprise in itself. Just the Ninth Circus doing it's bit to hasten the day when everyone can be required to "produce their papers."

9 posted on 04/17/2012 12:25:50 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: newheart

WUT??? you lost???? Without VOTER ID this country will no longer be free....


10 posted on 04/17/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: montag813

With this news CD8 soon to be called CD2 may well be DemocRAT held any more.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 12:42:35 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Parmenio
Hey Eric:


12 posted on 04/17/2012 12:45:16 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: montag813

Good!


13 posted on 04/17/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: montag813

Good!


14 posted on 04/17/2012 12:59:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: liberalh8ter
Well this is going to throw a monkey wrench into the Obama campaign's recent voter drives in AZ.

Here's the loophole. Expect AZ to see a ton of this stuff.

" However, the court also ruled that Arizona must not refuse federal voter registration forms, which work on the honor system by asking applicants to check a box indicating whether they're U.S. citizens."

15 posted on 04/17/2012 1:01:07 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: goodnesswins
Without VOTER ID this country will no longer be free....

I completely agree. But it is a little bit of a Catch-22. And besides, the 9th doesn't tend to make it's judgements with an eye to freedom for the individual (except in sexual issues).

16 posted on 04/17/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: Drill Thrawl
I saw that but I also expect the good citizens of AZ will be working the polls and verifying the voters. This is a good thing; let the dems waste their cash signing up the illegals and dead and then watch the illegals not show up to vote in November because they don't want to get in trouble.
17 posted on 04/17/2012 1:06:57 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: LaybackLenny

The most overturned Appeals Court eschewed the chance to be spanked again by the US Supreme Court.


18 posted on 04/17/2012 1:08:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: montag813

Let’s hope this goes to the SCOTUS, AGAIN. SCOTUS already ruled in April 2008 but 0bama/Holder don’t honor SCOTUS rulings as we’re soon to find out with 0bamacare being implemented ANYWAY.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 1:08:32 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Drill Thrawl

Funny, here in Texas I went to vote in 08 and they asked me for my ID as well as my voter registration card. I had my ID and they could check the rolls to make sure I was at the correct precinct but I still had to show my ID to prove I was who I said I was. If I didn’t have my ID and just the registration, they would not have allowed me to vote.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 1:15:36 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: montag813

Mostly, Hurrah !!!


21 posted on 04/17/2012 1:16:50 PM PDT by veracious
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To: montag813

Who’s next?

see tagline...


22 posted on 04/17/2012 1:20:28 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: montag813
LOL! Hussein is a major league loser if he cannot convince the NINTH CIRCUS to rule in his favor!
23 posted on 04/17/2012 1:21:35 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: montag813

The 9th Circus? Pigs are flying.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 1:22:40 PM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: newheart

Either you’re on the wrong forum or you forgot to take your meds today.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 1:26:26 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: veracious
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26 posted on 04/17/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Here's the loophole. Expect AZ to see a ton of this stuff. " However, the court also ruled that Arizona must not refuse federal voter registration forms, which work on the honor system by asking applicants to check a box indicating whether they're U.S. citizens."

But if I am reading this right, even if you are registered to vote via the federal form - you still need to show valid ID to get the ballot to vote with. Doesn't look like a loophole to actually vote.
27 posted on 04/17/2012 1:29:56 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: montag813
Obamao's Arizona constituency reacts to ruling:



28 posted on 04/17/2012 1:30:37 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: varina davis

This is a ploy by the 9th Circuit Court: since they know SCOTUS always overturns their decisions, they are trying to see if this one gets reversed so that the final outcome is the way they really want it.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 1:30:51 PM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Bruinator

>>If I didn’t have my ID and just the registration, they would not have allowed me to vote.<<

Either you’re mistaken, or they were doing it wrong. If you have your voter registration card in Texas, they won’t ID you. If you don’t, they will.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 1:33:09 PM PDT by 1L
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To: traderrob6
Either you’re on the wrong forum or you forgot to take your meds today.

Neither. I'm just questioning the motivation of the 9th circuit as they astonishingly get one almost right.

31 posted on 04/17/2012 1:33:55 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: 1L

All I know is I had both, but I asked under what circumstance would I not be allowed to vote, and that is the explanation I received.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 1:35:09 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: montag813

Who knew the 9th circuit was a bunch of racists?


33 posted on 04/17/2012 1:45:26 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: newheart
Not a big surprise in itself. Just the Ninth Circus doing it's bit to hasten the day when everyone can be required to "produce their papers."

Nobody's requiring anyone to "produce their pappers." If you don't want to "produce your papers," then just don't vote.

34 posted on 04/17/2012 1:45:54 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: montag813
In my opinion, the "federal voter registration forms" are unconstitutional on their face AND this ruling proves it.

In essence the form itself, by including some requirements while not including others is a violation of states rights as states per the constitution are the ones that define voting methodology and as such voter requirements -not the fed!

35 posted on 04/17/2012 1:47:43 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: montag813

Hard to believe coming from the 9th but sweet.


36 posted on 04/17/2012 1:48:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

By definition illegals don’t have honor. What about that statement usually on the bottom of federal forms - if you make s false statement your @** is ours, something to that effect.


37 posted on 04/17/2012 1:56:52 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: montag813

The 9th Circus said that? Are you sure?

Whoo Hoo!!


38 posted on 04/17/2012 1:57:22 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: montag813
Arizona can demand to see certain forms of identification that proves citizenship

Now they need proof that the voter is still alive and not a zombie voter.
39 posted on 04/17/2012 1:58:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: alancarp
This is a ploy by the 9th Circuit Court: since they know SCOTUS always overturns their decisions, they are trying to see if this one gets reversed so that the final outcome is the way they really want it.

You are a true blooded Freeper.

40 posted on 04/17/2012 1:59:18 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: liberalh8ter
I saw that but I also expect the good citizens of AZ will be working the polls and verifying the voters

I plan to be on patrol outside my polling place wearing my Border Patrol cap. Just for grins.

41 posted on 04/17/2012 2:00:02 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: kevcol
But if I am reading this right, even if you are registered to vote via the federal form - you still need to show valid ID to get the ballot to vote with.

You're not from Chicago, are you? Absentees, vote-by-mail, dead voters all manage to bypass voting in person. Obama would love 2 million illegal registrations in Texas, in Houston and Austin where local officials will organize the vote. I may still be voting in Chicago - I suspect my grandfather is.

42 posted on 04/17/2012 2:02:39 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2012.)
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To: montag813; stephenjohnbanker; CharlesWayneCT
Arizona can demand to see certain forms of identification that proves citizenship, the court ruled

.... However, the court also ruled that Arizona must not refuse federal voter registration forms, which work on the honor system by asking applicants to check a box indicating whether they're U.S. citizens.

The feds need to get out of the voter registration business. Yes, that means changing the Motor Voter Act.

43 posted on 04/17/2012 2:05:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: presently no screen name

I think they word it a little different though. No asterisks or ampersats.


44 posted on 04/17/2012 2:05:20 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: montag813

This Voter ID issue baffles me. Puerto Rico, a mostly hispanic U.S. jurisdiction of four million U.S. Citizens, has had voter ID laws on its books for at least as long as I have been alive. And they do ask for proof of residency and citizenship when you show up to register. And the State Elections Commission requires their Photo ID to vote.


45 posted on 04/17/2012 2:05:35 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: LaybackLenny

Where exactly did the 9th Circus find the brain cells necc. for this decision. It’s true then...even a blind squirrel find some acorns or something like that


46 posted on 04/17/2012 2:06:16 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Parmenio
I could never get this. Is Obama actually more or less admitting that Democratic voters are prone to be fraudulent? He is incensed that voter fraud can no longer continue? The humanity! Someone at the polls will actually challenge you to prove you are who you say you are. Better call Amnesty International.
47 posted on 04/17/2012 2:10:50 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Parmenio

Speaking of Arizona and Holder Failures, yesterday Katie Pavlich’s “Fast and Furious” was released, I’ve been reading it today, what a totally shameful episode. Somebody (make that plural) needs to go to prison—long term. 2 US Agents dead, 200-300 Mexican citizens murdered, utterly despicable. (I had read quite a bit of articles on F&F , but this just blew me away).

...it’s good to see the whole thing together in one place:

http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Furious-Bloodiest-Shameless-Cover-Up/dp/1596983213


48 posted on 04/17/2012 2:16:22 PM PDT by cookcounty (We need Newt's Jaw-jitsu!)
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To: bunkerhill7
Mexico is probably the most hypocritical nation on the planet.

Take that, suckers!

49 posted on 04/17/2012 2:17:42 PM PDT by Calliecat
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To: montag813

Just posted the link on FB - some of my friends are going to be LIVID! Ah, well, it’ll get their working heart rate up. ;-)


50 posted on 04/17/2012 2:21:04 PM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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