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Miami-Dade firefighter under investigation for Trayvon Martin Facebook rant
Miami Herald ^ | April; 15, 2012 | DAVID OVALLE

Posted on 04/16/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A Miami-Dade firefighter’s rant about the Trayvon Martin case — posted on his personal Facebook page — is drawing scrutiny from his bosses.

Capt. Brian Beckmann’s post, published for the public Friday by the website theGrio.com, lambasts the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case and suggests “urban youth” are the products of “failed, sh*tbag, ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: martin; miami; trayvon; trayvonmartin
I wonder the reaction if someone said "blue eyed devils" as we were subjected in recent days.
1 posted on 04/16/2012 6:45:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Conservatives should flee FaceBook as though it were the Devil. It should have a disclaimer every time you post : “Anything you post here will be used against you in a court of law”.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 6:50:37 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I did not see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

When are these people ever going to wake up to the fact that Facebook is a turncoat site that is monitored by gov’t , both Federal, State and Local and now, by many corporations? There isn’t any “privacy” on Facebook. Sheeesh!


3 posted on 04/16/2012 6:51:37 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: ConservativeStatement

People who post anything remotely controversial on Facebook are STUPID.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 6:52:22 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Controlling what a person thinks it what a tyrannous culture does - think North Korea - children turning in their parents and watching them being executed without remorse.

Is that what we want?

This type of activity described in the Miami Herald smacks of a beginning.

5 posted on 04/16/2012 6:55:23 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: BipolarBob
“Anything you post here will be used against you in a court of law”.

...or the Court of Public Opinion...........1984's Thought Police are here.........Orwell was a prophet..........

6 posted on 04/16/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Paradox

People who post anything anti left/progressive you mean.

The left are true fascists. This man’s personal opinion on his off time is not his bosses concern.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 6:56:12 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Capt. Brian Beckmann’s post, published for the public Friday by the website theGrio.com, lambasts the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case and suggests “urban youth” are the products of “failed, sh*tbag, ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents.”

What happened to free speech? Remember the radicals on campuses in the 1960s?

Is there some element of truth in the rant? Maybe that is the problem in today's repressive environment.

8 posted on 04/16/2012 6:56:56 AM PDT by olezip
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To: BipolarBob

Conservatives who work in government jobs (Fed, State, local, military) should be very careful what they post on Facebook. It is NOT a forum like FR; you are NOT anonymous. It should be entertainment only; posting anti-Government sentiments can be a detriment to your career.
The same thing is true for posting about your employer. If your not saying how much you love them and how great their products and services are, DON’T post it on Facebook. Go somewhere where you are anonymous.


9 posted on 04/16/2012 6:57:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Are firefighters under some subjective moral code 24 hours a day?

These hustlers are doing whatever they can to prop up their little industry.


10 posted on 04/16/2012 6:57:19 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: BipolarBob

OTOH, this kind of case must have our support. This is Thoughtcrime, pure and simple.


11 posted on 04/16/2012 6:59:12 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I see.

The Fire Chief had a “rant”, you know, a “tantrum”, requiring an “investigation”.

But Loui$ Farrakhan, Al $harptongue, and Je$$e Jack$on can stoke up racial hatred, and the Black Pampers can even issue “Wanted Dead or Alive” posters without so much as a raised eyebrow from the goons who are going to “investigate” the Fire Chief.

The hypocrisy is beyond blatant, beyond palpable, and is encroaching on the delusional.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 7:00:09 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Red Badger

Just another salvo against our First Amendment rights.

It all started with “sensitivity” and political correctness.


13 posted on 04/16/2012 7:00:26 AM PDT by Walrus (Can a president be impeached for stupidity?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I think this guy could have made his point without drawing criticism had he been a little more careful in how choosing his vernacular.
14 posted on 04/16/2012 7:02:23 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: ConservativeStatement

Facebook use is inversely proportional to IQ.

However, I cannot see a single thing he supposedly said that was incorrect.

Sooner or later, we’re going to have to start seeing and saying the truth.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 7:02:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ConservativeStatement
The investigation and racially-charged entry on the private Facebook page is an example of how employers both private and public struggle to balance free speech and conduct that may reflect poorly on an employee.
How is criticizing bad parenting and the welfare society "racially-charged"???

He said nothing about race.

The Miami-Herald is reading race into it. (Surprise! Surprise!)

16 posted on 04/16/2012 7:03:24 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Carbonsteel

yes be careful the words you choose on facebook. Are you serious? Are you really on a conservative website that is basically saying this man pretty much had it coming for voicing a politically incorrect opinion on his personal time?
Thought and speech police!


17 posted on 04/16/2012 7:05:41 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: BipolarBob

>>>“Anything you post here will be used against you in a court of law”.

You should treat anything you post anywhere in electronic format subject to having to explain it before a jury.


18 posted on 04/16/2012 7:06:02 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Capt. Brian Beckmann’s post, published for the public Friday by the website theGrio.com, lambasts the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case and suggests “urban youth” are the products of “failed, sh*tbag, ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents.”

And the truth shall set you free...from your job!

19 posted on 04/16/2012 7:07:58 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Walrus

Orwell, Huxley, Clarke and Rand have told us what to expect..............


20 posted on 04/16/2012 7:14:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Keith in Iowa

True enough.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 7:16:05 AM PDT by BipolarBob ("Oh no, I'm not sick, well I'm not physically sick anyway. Mentally I'm sick beyond any doctor's abi)
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To: ConservativeStatement
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22 posted on 04/16/2012 7:19:43 AM PDT by baddog 219
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I don’t use Facebook. But “investigated” by whom? Do we now have Speech Police?


23 posted on 04/16/2012 7:25:55 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: baddog 219

That sign sums up Facebook in a majority of cases. That is the feeling I get about the site and how it is used.


24 posted on 04/16/2012 7:30:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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25 posted on 04/16/2012 7:32:20 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: BipolarBob
Not a problem for me. No facebook, twitter, myspace and whatever is popular this week. I don't want people to know about me.
26 posted on 04/16/2012 7:33:40 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: snarkytart
I didn't say he had it coming. Nowhere is my post is such a statement.

I'm only saying you have to be careful how you voice your opinions on Facebook and that's all.

It's not right that you should have to tip toe around certain topics, but if your a conservative, you have to watch what you say.

Freedom of expression is very one sided in America these days and only reserved for Liberal viewpoints. Anything else is bigoted, racists, phobic, close minded....you get my drift.

27 posted on 04/16/2012 7:40:07 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s time thus crap stops. They can’t own your thoughts and expressions. Fight it.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 7:41:51 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Godwin1
I don’t use Facebook. But “investigated” by whom? Do we now have Speech Police?

any large institution of any nature plays that role. I don't think the number of employees or constituents is carved in stone, but at some level either the Feds or their surrogates (private institutions. ins co's, medical providers, whatever) get involved and must regulate or disclose contractually.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 7:48:17 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Godwin1
Hello. Can I be your Facebook friend?


30 posted on 04/16/2012 7:51:15 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Little Ray

It’s worse than that. Fire fighters are union. I know of one fire fighter having to register independant instead of republican due to union pressure.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Rich21IE

Exactly why I never used it and never will. I really do not get why people do in the first place. There are people I do not want to see ever again, psychos and liberals that drove me up the wall. Why would I advertise myself?

And another thing that blows my mind is this obsession with credit cards. Now they even got credit card machines in taxis and newspaper shops here in New York city to the point where many people I know never carry cash. With this administration in power, why would they do that? With a flick of a keystroke the government can destroy anyone financially. “Oh you made a mistake on your IRS form...You owe the IRS $98,000 bucks so will just put a lein on all your accounts until you bow to the Obama.”


32 posted on 04/16/2012 7:53:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Very True.

The anonymity supplied by FR is not without limits either.

33 posted on 04/16/2012 7:56:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: BipolarBob

I have been telling my friends for years to stay away from FB (and similar sites).... No matter how I explain how dangerous (in so many ways) FB is, they laugh it off :/


34 posted on 04/16/2012 8:03:30 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: BipolarBob

Agree!!! Big Brother is watching!


35 posted on 04/16/2012 8:25:57 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Cold Heart

You do what you have to keep your job; more so if you love it.

But that sounds like its actionable... Of course, the police and the local government are probably Union, too.


36 posted on 04/16/2012 8:29:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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37 posted on 04/16/2012 8:30:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Little Ray

Pressure might have been the wrong word. Rookie fire fighter, newly joining the union. “suggestions” were made.


38 posted on 04/16/2012 8:40:49 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: elpadre
This type of activity described in the Miami Herald smacks of a beginning.

Bingo. Although not a beginning, it's certainly a continuation.

I look for this to become the next national headline on the Zimmerman case. It'll be used to stir up race relations and get the Sharpton/Jackson/NBPP-types in the news again.


39 posted on 04/16/2012 9:55:58 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: T-Bird45
And the truth shall set you free...from your job!

Maybe, but he actually may not want that job anymore once a judge tosses the Zimmerman case out at the probable cause hearing and the natives start burning down their own neighborhoods.
40 posted on 04/16/2012 10:21:10 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: Paradox

>>People who post anything remotely controversial on Facebook are STUPID.<<

Not necessarily. Maybe they are not cowards, giving in to quivering fear of Big Brother.


41 posted on 04/16/2012 10:24:59 AM PDT by DC Ripper (Anyone who thinks America can survive four more years of Obama is a fool.)
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To: Da Coyote
However, I cannot see a single thing he supposedly said that was incorrect. Sooner or later, we’re going to have to start seeing and saying the truth.

I said basically the same thing on another blog and crickets.

No way is any kid of mine coming in the house with a mouth full of gold and tats. There was no way I was coming in my parents home with gold teeth. How did he pay for this?

Mom could not handle him so he was shipped off to dad. Well mom, the suspensions should have been a signal of something going on with your child.

Dad did not "brief" his kid about behavior in the complex. "Son, kids like you have been burglarizing the neighborhood so please do not loiter outside because no one knows you"

A failure on both parents part.

42 posted on 04/16/2012 12:59:39 PM PDT by USAF80
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