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The next six months will be a wild ride for Mormons
Deseret News ^ | April 15, 2012 | Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb

Posted on 04/15/2012 2:09:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Last week it became clear that LDS Church member Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee for president. This is a momentous event for millions of Mormons who may have doubted it could ever happen. However, the general election campaign will be negative and nasty. We explore the continuing ramifications of Romney's religion in the presidential race.

In hindsight, was religion as big a factor in the recent primary contests as it was in 2008?

Pignanelli:"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." — Mahatma GandhiReligion was an element in the recent primary elections, just more subtle than four years ago. But it was both a detriment and a benefit to Romney. Undoubtedly, much of the support Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum received in the Southern states was suspicion by evangelical voters toward Romney's LDS belief. "We are voting for a true conservative" was a clever cloak for this bigotry. However, the majority of Catholic primary voters supported Romney over fellow Catholics Gingrich and Santorum because of religion. We Catholics have two millennia of history to distill the real crazies in our church. Thus, Republican Catholics knew exactly what they were getting with Santorum, and the overwhelming majority chose the comfort of Romney's moderate LDS adherence. Many voters perceived Romney's faith as a positive force in his life — an encouraging sign for Mormons....

....With Santorum out, and Gingrich on life support, will evangelical Republicans finally rally around Romney?

Webb:Yes, to a large degree. Some will do so grudgingly and will put conditions on their support. They will grumble as Romney pivots to some degree to the center. But most of them fear another four years of Barack Obama more than they fear having a Mormon in the White House.....

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichristian; gopprimary; inman; lds; mormon; romney2012
Last time I looked, we're still running a Primary election because the nominee has not been chosen. I find it awful that if you are a Southerner and voted for Santorum or Gingrich (or plan to vote for Newt) you are assumed to be a bigot.

Newt Gingrich Calls for Universal Right to Bear Arms at NRA Forum "Friday’s Celebration of American Values Leadership forum featured speeches by Mitt Romney, recent contender Rick Santorum, plus conservative stars like former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. But members of the influential gun lobby today reserved their greatest enthusiasms not for their presumptive nominee Romney, but for Newt Gingrich, a candidate who perseveres to the wonderment of many and the joy of some. .....The crowd was appreciative of the man who will likely court their votes this fall, but the NRA faithful became far more animated for Gingrich. With his characteristic flourish for sweeping and historical ideas, the former House speaker laid out a guideline for an international gun-rights movement that the NRA’s Cox called “the Gingrich Doctrine.”.....

1 posted on 04/15/2012 2:09:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Save us magic underwear man~~~!!!!!


2 posted on 04/15/2012 2:42:59 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney is NOT the candidate and has gotten where he
is by CHEATING and BACKSTABBING.

Why are the Mormons FOR THIS?
Are the Mormons behind Romney’s cheating and backstabbing, too, like BAIN and Marriott.

It has been a wild ride for the rest of America to watch
the Massacre of Conservatives by shameless Team Romney.


3 posted on 04/15/2012 3:26:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

The same percentage of Mormons will vote for Romney as Blacks will vote for Obama - just under 100%.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 3:38:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Sooo,
let’s see how romney does when the tea party and real conservatives ignore his sorry ass.
Is there ANY difference between obummer and romney?
Please, can anyone point out those differences??


5 posted on 04/15/2012 3:40:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; y'all
Last time I looked, we're still running a Primary election because the nominee has not been chosen. I find it awful that if you are a Southerner and voted for Santorum or Gingrich (or plan to vote for Newt) you are assumed to be a bigot.

I'm a TEA Party Conservative bigot, so that deleted LIBERAL Romney immediately, and I voted for Newt Gingrich in Mississippi.

Y'all down South do the same now, ya hear?

:)

6 posted on 04/15/2012 3:53:23 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

Well, this “bigot” is going to vote for Newt on March 29th in the Texas GOP Primary.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 3:56:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Well, this “bigot” is going to vote for Newt on MAY 29th in the Texas GOP Primary.
8 posted on 04/15/2012 3:58:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Newt Gingrich to hold forum in Richardson [Texas this Monday] “Former House Speaker and Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich is scheduled to hold a public forum Monday in Richardson.

The meeting is set for 4 p.m. at Pappasito's Cantina, 723 Central Expressway. Space is limited and the audience will be part of a 30-mintue question and answer period.”……..

9 posted on 04/15/2012 4:19:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney's moderate LDS adherence.

Moderate adherence? Where the h$ll did they get that?

He's the frikken White Horse...he's no moderate.

10 posted on 04/15/2012 4:22:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, and do it twice.


11 posted on 04/15/2012 4:25:40 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Last time I looked, we're still running a Primary election because the nominee has not been chosen. I find it awful that if you are a Southerner and voted for Santorum or Gingrich (or plan to vote for Newt) you are assumed to be a bigot.

Yep - if Romney ends up being the one, the eGOP and their Dim co-conspirators will have us exactly where they want us; without a Republic to live under.

12 posted on 04/15/2012 4:27:32 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BIGOTS ONLY



13 posted on 04/15/2012 4:50:35 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Diogenesis

excellent post...now we are bigot-racists.

unbelievable!

The Mrs


14 posted on 04/15/2012 4:59:33 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; ...

We expect that some of you Evangelical Christians will grumble as Romney pivots to some degree to the center [back from the far right], but most of you fear another four years of Barack Obama more than you fear having a Mormon in the White House ... making us the lesser of two evils ... ping.

15 posted on 04/15/2012 5:08:08 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrat idea of a balanced budget ... one-half smoke and one-half mirrors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This Ohio bigot already did!


16 posted on 04/15/2012 5:14:00 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I did in FL. Only because Perry wasn’t available. G*d save the Republic. Both of them; U.S and Texas.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 5:15:00 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But most of them fear another four years of Barack Obama more than they fear having a Mormon in the White House.....

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

18 posted on 04/15/2012 5:43:27 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Theophilus
YouTube: NRA members skeptical of Romney on guns, prefer Gingrich [3:00]
19 posted on 04/15/2012 5:55:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: vortec94
Texas is Rising for Newt Gingrich (Fox News 11:05 Sunday morning)
20 posted on 04/15/2012 6:36:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the nominee, Romney has my vote, not my support.


21 posted on 04/15/2012 6:50:54 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The one and only benefit to a Romney nomination, all the exposure the craziness of the LDS will finally get...


22 posted on 04/15/2012 7:43:05 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
All: The Mormon church owns the DesNews, where this was published. The Mormon church's attacks upon Christians (in this article, Christians & other conservatives in the South) has been reinvigorated...

From the article: Undoubtedly, much of the support Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum received in the Southern states was suspicion by evangelical voters toward Romney's LDS belief. "We are voting for a true conservative" was a clever cloak for this bigotry.

They are now trying to marginalize Southern Christians -- for fear that they will be the primary "holdout" in boarding the Romney bandwagon.

By calling non-Romney supporters "bigots," they are trying the liberal tactic that if you don't vote Mormon, you're a "bigot."

The same percentage of Mormons will vote for Romney as Blacks will vote for Obama - just under 100%. [Cincinatus' Wife]

CW makes an interesting parallel...The % of Southern Christian/Evangelical voters who supported either Santorum or Gingrich in the primaries has been significantly less than the % of Mormons who have supported Romney in 2008 and 2012:

And, rather interesting that 94-95% of Mormons in both Utah and Nevada voted for Romney in 2008:

* 2008 (Utah) "While the former Massachusetts governor’s faith has been a flashpoint in his campaign, it was perhaps one of his strongest assets in Utah, where more than 60% of the state’s residents share his faith. Exit poll data shows Romney swept voters across the board, handily winning every social, economic, and generational demographic in the state, as well as 94% of all Mormon voters." (Susan Davis, Wall Street Journal, Feb. 5, 2008, Romney Wins Utah With Help From Friends [Note: The Wall Street Journal was citing MSNBC.msn.com...]

* 2008 (Nevada) Per the Mormon Church, Mormons make up about 7.5% of Nevada's population. But according to the entrance polls so far, a whopping 25% of those who participated in the state's GOP caucuses are Mormons. And 94% of those people went with Romney.
Source: Nevada Mormons turn out for Romney (Mark Murray, MSNBC, Jan. 19, 2008)

* 2008 (Arizona and Nevada): In the Nevada Republican caucuses last cycle, entrance polls found that a quarter — 26 percent — of participants were Mormons and 95 percent supported Romney. He won the state handily. The numbers were also impressive in Arizona, where exit polls showed 11 percent of voters were Mormon and 88 percent of them voted for Romney...
Source: Mitt Romney’s Mormon firewall

* 2012 (Nevada): According to exit polls conducted for the Associated Press, nine of 10 Mormon voters in Nevada supported Romney.
Source: Paul seeks to attract Mormon voters in Nevada GOP contest

So...why have about 95% of Mormons -- about 85% of whom are Republicans & are supposedly "conservative" -- supporting a liberal pro-abortion socialized healthcare candidate?

Well, the exit polls answer that as well:

Per this 2008 exit poll data:

Exit poll data from Tuesday's primary elections showed Utah Republican voters cared more about presidential candidates' PERSONAL QUALITIES THAN THEIR POSITIONS ON THE ISSUES, the OPPOSITE OF THE NATIONAL TREND of the national trend in Super Tuesday voting.
Source: Romney's exit disappoints strong Utah following (Feb. 7, 2008 AP/Salt Lake Tribune)

IOW, Mormon voters vote Romney because he's Mormon! That's it!

(And isn't voting for a candidate only -- or primarily -- because of his religious ID = a form of "bigotry?" Isn't voting against non-Mormons because they aren't Mormon -- isn't that "bigotry?")

23 posted on 04/15/2012 7:53:01 AM PDT by Colofornian ( The Romneybots are political descendents of Esau: Trading a FR inheritance for a 'lentil soup' guy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Mittgotry

Mitt-got-ry: [mitt-guh-tree]
noun, plural -ries.

1. the belief that acceptance of a candidate’s commitment to a cult should be imposed on someone else's personal religious freedom of expression and practice
2. or imposed on another's personal values
3. or as a standard imposed on an individual's vote

No sale.
24 posted on 04/15/2012 8:01:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("Of two evils, choose neither." -- Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Colofornian
I find it awful that if you are a Southerner and voted for Santorum or Gingrich (or plan to vote for Newt) you are assumed to be a bigot.

This "you are a bigot" has been the mantra of the mormon church since the 1800s yet it today sends out 52,000 missionaries every day to proclaim that your Christian faith is FALSE and the only way to salvation is thru arcane rituals in the mormon temples.

Never forget that Mitt Romney believes that the Bible is correct "only so far as it is translated correctly" and that the mormon church sanctifies abortion "if a leader approves and it is prayed about".

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

The Articles of Faith

Statement on Abortion:

In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court issued their well known ruling in the Roe v. Wade case. The court legalized early abortions for any reason, and allowed later abortions if necessary to preserve the health or life of the woman.

In response to this liberalization of abortion access, Harold B. Lee, N. Eldon Tanner, & Marion G. Romney of the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints' First Presidency issued a statement on abortion in 1973. 3 It restated the historical LDS Church's position on abortion.

"The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer."

LDS.org


25 posted on 04/15/2012 8:34:00 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: All
The multi-billion-dollar mormon propaganda machine is gearing up to full speed.

The Truth About Mormonism [Evasions, obfuscation and outright lies]

26 posted on 04/15/2012 9:37:34 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
""""Last week it became clear that LDS Church member Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee""""

WHAT THE H...? Newt Gingrich is ALIVE AND WELL and still in this race, have they already crowned the POS MITTENS? When did NEWT drop out? They IGNORE NEWT with risk.

Mittens is an "ISM", make that POS-ISM.

I'm with NEWT.

27 posted on 04/15/2012 11:17:54 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
. However, the majority of Catholic primary voters supported Romney over fellow Catholics Gingrich and Santorum because of religion.

Oh?

Where's the DATA?

Where is the EXIT poll info?

These folks are HOPING it's true.

28 posted on 04/15/2012 1:56:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Undoubtedly, much of the support Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum received in the Southern states was suspicion by evangelical voters toward Romney's LDS belief.

No; you ignoramuses!

It was because of what they KNEW about MORMONism!

It's not called the BIBLE BELT fer NOTHIN'!!!

29 posted on 04/15/2012 1:58:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

30 posted on 04/15/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: magritte

magritte; you’re on!


31 posted on 04/15/2012 2:01:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Zakeet
MODERATE?

Office of First President & Living Prophet

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

...to stay on our mantra: We ARE Christians!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!
 
We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...
 
 
Tommy

32 posted on 04/15/2012 2:02:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
From the article: Undoubtedly, much of the support Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum received in the Southern states was suspicion by evangelical voters toward Romney's LDS belief. "We are voting for a true conservative" was a clever cloak for this bigotry.
 
 
I just HATE when BIGOTRY is exposed!!!!
 

 
 





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

33 posted on 04/15/2012 2:05:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Yup; Mitt was in his thirties when the LDS religious Organization; based in Salt Lake City; decided to LISTEN to their 'god' and finally get on the Civil Rights bandwagon.

I remember quite well, his participation in the marchs around of Temple Square, arm in arm with his BLACK Brothers and Sisters...

34 posted on 04/15/2012 2:08:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
...and so forth."

WHAT? That is as precise as it gets; folks!

35 posted on 04/15/2012 2:09:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Last week it became clear that LDS Church member Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee for president. This is a momentous event for millions of Mormons who may have doubted it could ever happen.



...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

36 posted on 04/15/2012 2:11:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; Marguerite
magritte; you’re on!

Alas, poor magritte, I knew him well and must say of all the members I've seen banished at F.R., his departure was one of the happier ones.

I do apologize to the most excellent FReeper "Marguerite", for once confusing her name with his.

I should have realized immediately that she was making conservative comments, completely unlike magritte.

37 posted on 04/15/2012 5:24:19 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
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To: Elsie
Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

Sounds a lot like Jeremiah Wright to me.

38 posted on 04/15/2012 5:27:04 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What the Mormons have to fear is the exposure of their religion when the Democrat media tears it into shreds. Mormons will become the equivalent of the Branch Davidians in the eyes of the Obamedia.


39 posted on 04/15/2012 5:27:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Graybeard58

“I do apologize to the most excellent FReeper “Marguerite”, for once confusing her name with his.
I should have realized immediately that she was making conservative comments, completely unlike magritte.”

No biggies. Call me Marguerite or Daisy (in English) if that’s easier :)


40 posted on 04/15/2012 7:52:36 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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