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As more facts are known I have more questions: Martin and Zimmerman
WAGIST ^ | April 12, 2012 | Dan Linehan

Posted on 04/12/2012 5:04:46 PM PDT by 70times7

If you read the article HERE you find a lot of good information. Maps are displayed along with time lines that describe the encounter between Martin and Zimmerman. This is the most detailed account I have seen yet.

A week or two ago another thread asked why no footage had been shown with Trayvon getting his Skittles at the 7-Eleven. I speculated that they didn't want the public to know that this "poor little boy" was actually much bigger than Zimmerman, and no longer a little boy. But there may be another reason; he was never there.

According to the account Zimmerman first saw Martin near the clubhouse; to the west of the altercation and also to the west of where Martin was staying. Now that I had access to maps I did a search. As near as I can tell, the closest 7-Eleven is over 2 miles away - to the east. - 2700 West 25th Street, Sanford, FL.

The linked article also suggests that Martin doubled back specifically to confront Zimmerman. I continue to wonder if the reason Zimmerman thought he was acting suspiciously was because Martin was acting suspiciously. There are reports that women's jewelry and a flat screwdriver were found in Martin's backpack at school, but it was not acted on.

What if Trayvon was roving the neighborhood looking for "opportunity" and saw Zimmerman watching him? Do you suppose that maybe the Skittles toting the little boy who punched the bus driver may have wanted a piece of Zimmerman for trying to stop him?


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If you know this area or turn up different information please post it. The affidavit specifically stated that he was coming back from a 7-Eleven after purchasing Skittles and Arizona Iced Tea. I remain unconvinced.
1 posted on 04/12/2012 5:04:56 PM PDT by 70times7
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To: 70times7

What if Trayvon was roving the neighborhood looking for “opportunity” and saw Zimmerman watching him? Do you suppose that maybe the Skittles toting the little boy who punched the bus driver may have wanted a piece of Zimmerman for trying to stop him?

This is what I’ve thought. He wasn’t just walking thru, he was acting suspiciously, GZ checked him out


2 posted on 04/12/2012 5:09:34 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Mears

bfl


3 posted on 04/12/2012 5:12:35 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: 70times7

He was new to the area and as a burglar he was casing near-future “prospects”.

Zimmerman’s instincts were right.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 5:14:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I think regardless of why, Martin had Zimmerman on his back beating the crap out of him.

Everything about that night and the accusations against Zimmerman are thought crimes and not actual crimes.

Even if we found out Zimmerman had said the most offensive things that night towards blacks or he was a member of the KKK wouldn’t change that.

Fact is, he is getting persecuted because he shot a black man.


5 posted on 04/12/2012 5:16:31 PM PDT by dila813
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To: A_Former_Democrat
There are other places Martin could have walked to buy iced tea and candy (Walmart for example), but these are well out of alignment with the path Martin was using to come home.

Also, it was reportedly raining, so it is unlikely that he was taking the long way for exercise.

None of this is conclusive - only so much can be gleaned from goggle map. But it does make me wonder.

6 posted on 04/12/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Didn’t Zimmerman say Martin was going back and forth between houses? I’ll always believe he was scoping out a place to burglarize. And if he was so scared why didn’t he call the cops. I also believe his girlfriend probably told a different story to the cops the night of the shooting than what she’s telling today.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 5:19:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: 70times7
Per the American Thinker, a video of Martin at the 7-Eleven exists. Accounting for Martin's whereabouts from the time he left 7-Eleven until Zimmerman spotted him is another matter:

"But a video does exist. The public relations director of 7-Eleven told me that, according to the company's manager of security, a store camera captured an African-American male (she wouldn't commit to "young") purchasing a bag of Skittles and a can of tea (she wouldn't say that it was "Arizona" tea). The hard disk with the video was removed after the story broke, and it has been subpoenaed by investigators for the state and/or county. The company has not made it available to the media. The public relations director could not specify the exact time of the purchase but said it was between 6:00 and 6:30.

The 7-Eleven, according to maps.google, is 0.8 miles from the entrance to The Retreat at Twin Lakes, a 16-minute walk. There is not much to see or do on Rinehart Road on a Sunday night, and it was raining hard. Even if he was not bringing the tea and Skittles to his stepbrother but was eating and sipping en route, Martin should have arrived back at his dad's fiancée's place before 6:50, and much earlier if he left the store closer to 6:00 than 6:30. According to logs (now deleted from the department's website), Zimmerman called the Sanford police at 7:09:34.

Just as Martin did not go straight home after he first spotted the neighborhood watch captain, so, too, he apparently did not go directly to Brandy Green's apartment from the 7-Eleven. What exactly he was doing between the time he entered the gated community and the moment Zimmerman noticed him will probably never be known. Though there may be some plausible explanation for his behavior, the idea that he was simply returning from a selfless errand when he caught Zimmerman's eye seems less and less likely."


8 posted on 04/12/2012 5:22:15 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Terry Mross

girlfriend is a bad witness.

1) she wasn’t there

2) she can lie like a rug....not best evidence.


9 posted on 04/12/2012 5:24:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: dila813
I agree. Unfortunately our government now prosecutes based on thought crimes.

Wait, that's not right. Let me try again:

Unfortunately Big Brother now prosecutes based on thought crimes.

there... That - is - BETTER! (w/ apologies to Dave Chapelle, and bonus points for you if you recognize it)

10 posted on 04/12/2012 5:25:14 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

funny you mention this.

I live in a county here which is mostly republican , goes nearly 70% for the republican candidate and we have no Dems in power, it is over 90% whites and churches popping up all over the county, massive churches too.

Anyway in my area it is about 98% white and my wife and I were out shopping in food lion.
Low and behold two black kids one about 16 the other about 19 or 20 were walking around the store, making a noise and swinging arms out whilst shouting, getting attention etc
They had their pants past down their arse and their boxers were on full display.

Everyone from the workers in the fish stand to the checkout to those shoppers coming in the store was talking about them and a couple of people mentioned that they were looking for attention and that it seemed they wanted to be kicked out of the place.

No one said anything to give them that satisfaction but it was clear they wanted one person to say something or the manager to say they had to leave and then they could claim they were racially abused and picked on.

Now maybe they were silly little turds acting up or maybe they were looking for trouble/attention either way they did not get anything positive out of their act


11 posted on 04/12/2012 5:25:14 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Terry Mross

But Sharpton said yesterday to the MSM, sorry the lefts propaganda wing that he had loving parents just wanting justice.

If so loving then why was the suspended kid not grounded at home?
If it is justice then why call for the arrest and now happy ?

Course now an arrest has been made they can go forward with that civil suit but hey maybe it is me who is being cynical and the bleeding heart will say ‘ how can you say that she lost her beautiful loving son”


12 posted on 04/12/2012 5:28:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Bet she has a lot of jewelry. In fact...she might have been his fence.


13 posted on 04/12/2012 5:28:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for your post! It cancels some of my information but bolsters my theory.


14 posted on 04/12/2012 5:29:51 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Terry Mross

But Sharpton said yesterday to the MSM, sorry the lefts propaganda wing that he had loving parents just wanting justice.

If so loving then why was the suspended kid not grounded at home?
If it is justice then why call for the arrest and now happy ?

Course now an arrest has been made they can go forward with that civil suit but hey maybe it is me who is being cynical and the bleeding heart will say ‘ how can you say that she lost her beautiful loving son”

Nothing to do with getting blacks all worked up for the election whilst the occupy lot are waiting for their orders this summer and then overturning our stand your ground law. Nah no way could it ever be that I mean on our local channel here the showed one guy in town saying that the towns needs to move forward, that Zimmermann should have been charged and then went into a tirade against people having guns.

ARF How many people did they interview before they found the dope like him to say what they think?


15 posted on 04/12/2012 5:30:10 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

Zimmerman’s is toast. It’s a black country now..... NOT an American one.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 5:30:33 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: 70times7

What if they did have 7-11 video and it showed cute little Trayvon shoplifting some goods? Would that video disappear?


17 posted on 04/12/2012 5:31:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, But I swear I did not see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Scoutmaster

” Just as Martin did not go straight home after he first spotted the neighborhood watch captain, so, too, he apparently did not go directly to Brandy Green’s apartment from the 7-Eleven. What exactly he was doing between the time he entered the gated community and the moment Zimmerman noticed him will probably never be known. Though there may be some plausible explanation for his behavior, the idea that he was simply returning from a selfless errand when he caught Zimmerman’s eye seems less and less likely.”

Agreed.


18 posted on 04/12/2012 5:32:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 70times7

Holder praised Sharpton didn’t he after the arrest?

DOJ , what a racist joke and the GOP should have cleared them all out and gone after Holder right after he dropped charges against the racist blacks out side the voting station.

Even the cowardly GOP here have not called for the black panthers to be arrested.

The GOP let the MSM dictate the terms of an issue , the left gets their propaganda out and we have a GOP which thinks if they are nice the MSM might be nice back


19 posted on 04/12/2012 5:32:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: 70times7

Thanks for posting that link, lots of good info.


20 posted on 04/12/2012 5:33:53 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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