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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.


3 posted on 04/07/2012 3:13:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble

“If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.”
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So what? There will be no USA after 2016....Maybe not even after 2012.


4 posted on 04/07/2012 3:28:32 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Jim Noble

If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016.

If Romney is the best the GOP can do in 2012, then what’s left of the country will be better off without it.


9 posted on 04/07/2012 4:23:09 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Jim Noble

In a year...the GOP Washington types will be sitting around looking at the devastation...Obama reelected, the Dems picking up twenty seats in the House and holding the Senate...and they’ll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.

It’s all so predictiable.


11 posted on 04/07/2012 4:42:15 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016

If Obama wins reelection we won't have a shred of the Constitution left. So your admonition about no national GOP is rather moot.

16 posted on 04/07/2012 5:34:36 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly. I won’t support a GOP that backs Mitt.


28 posted on 04/07/2012 7:35:05 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.

The party is bigger than the presidency. The GOP was 'dead' in 92, 'dead' in 96, 'dead' in 2006/2008. The problem is most conservatives are too uninformed and more-so too impatient to fight the party battles needed.

How many people are precinct delegates or precinct captains? How many are involved in local parties? How many have been delegates to state conventions? State convention is also were our state RNC reps are chosen.

35 posted on 04/07/2012 8:35:04 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Jim Noble

“If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.”

There will be one, just not one lead by Mitt unless mitt wants to sing our tunes.

As I have reiterated many times. In the end our battle cannot be won in Washington only in our State houses can the battle for conservatism be won. It thus does not matter who becomes president. We must drive issues from our States, not Washington if we are to have any hope of reversing the flow of power in our directions.

I will vote for Mitt because he is better than Obama, I won’t worry about Santorm or Newt because they can’t win at this point and winning in their desired contest(the presidency) is not important anyway.

In the end there are 50 State & local republican party’s that we must focus on. We must obtain control of the majority of our State & local governments. We must drive them towards resistance to Washington.

Retaining the house, or taking the senate might be helpful politically crippling Washington’s ability to stop or resist our efforts. But Washington cannot and will not lead us to where we need to go. They will not willingly give up power.

We must uses our States to wrestle that power from them, Washington will fall inline only when it becomes practically & politically done.


43 posted on 04/07/2012 2:26:03 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.

I disagree - the GOP would be just a little more left-leaning and watered down, but it's a GOP that we all recognized since 1988 - George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain. All got the nominee because it was "their turn" or they had the most money, and all liked Big Government, and all either lost outright to Democrats, or helped turn the White House over to Democrats.

Romney fits right in with the Bushes, Dole, and McCain.
49 posted on 04/07/2012 11:24:32 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.

Ridiculous. Romney will be the nominee. There will be a strong GOP in 2016. Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Levin, Rubio, Walker, Ryan, DeMint, Gingrich, Santorum, and Palin will all be supporting Romney, and he has a good shot at winning.

In 2008 Romney was a favorite over McCain for some Freepers. Not you, I know, but many others were saying the same stuff you are saying now. Any body but McCain, and FUJM. I won't vote for a RINO. Not another dime to the RNC.

Conservatives showed there strength in primaries and McCain won the nomination. Many of these conservatives posted later in Aug that they were not going to vote for McCain but would for Palin. You were here. You know this.

McCain held the base and was leading at the polls after picking Palin as a running-mate. He might have won if not for the Housing market meltdown, 8 years of Bush, and excitement about a historic first black Prez.

Fast forward to 2012. Conservatives showed there strength again. SSDD. Sure some conservatives won't vote for Romney. The same ones who didn't vote for McCain or Bush. The GOP will never get their vote. We may not like Romney but a lot of the naysayers will come back when the nomination is certain instead of inevitable.

Romney could pick a VP who inspires the base like Palin. Jan Brewer wagging her finger in Obama's face comes to mind. Maybe Scott Walker if he loses his recall in June. But even if Romney doesn't pick a firebrand for VP he has Obama to excite the base.

Who can tell what unconstitutional or scandalous mistake Obama will make before Nov. Something will give cover to the Anybody But Mitt Romney crowd to justify the recognition of Obama as much more dangerous than Romney.

The GOP won back the house and a majority of governorships and state legislatures in 2010. We have had more control of redistricting and that will have lasting impact for the next 10 years.

This happened because of Obama backlash, not a new awaking of conservatism. We saw the strength of conservatism in the 2008 and 2012 primaries. Let us stop pretending that FR reflects a majority opinion. I am less certain that FR will be here in 2016 than the GOP.

The Freepathons last longer and are more frequent than PBS fundraisers. I don't have access to the statistics, but I know I stopped contributing to FR when FR stopped seeing rats as the enemy. And I post here a lot less because my opinion isn't appreciated. I have your "in forum" page bookmarked because I respect your opinion above most other Freepers, but your post today is not logical.

Have you have become one of the 5% conservatives?
I've been calling them out all Fall and Winter, saying, "Show me the votes come primary season". Now we know

54 posted on 04/09/2012 12:26:35 AM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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