Skip to comments.Romney win, now almost certain, won't decide future of GOP
Posted on 04/07/2012 3:10:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Newt well knows the subterranean delegate battle and hes waging it.
Newt Gingrich is going after unpledged delegates - that haven't committed in primaries already completed, including all the PA (72) and MT (26) and (IL (69) delegates, since these delegates remain unpledged regardless of primary vote.
AND though there are going to be some winner take all primaries, the following contests are also on the schedule:
RI (16) proportional
NY (92) proportional
WVA (28) proportional -- elect delegates (who list their presidential pick on ballot)
NC (52) proportional
OR (25) proportional
AK (33) proportional
KY (42) proportional
TX (155) proportional
CA (169) proportional (by district)
NM (20) proportional
SD (25) proportional
Then there are the Contested delegates: . delegates have to be "uncontested" in order to count. The frontrunner's rivals argue some of the states that awarded Romney all of their delegates violated Republican National Committee rules when they moved their contests ahead of April 1 and therefore should distribute delegates proportionally. This dispute, if it continues, would not be ruled on until the August convention in Tampa.
"All the media counts right now give him all of Florida, which is against the rules, all of Arizona, which is against the rules, and all of Idaho," Gingrich said Monday. "Those are all three proportional states and they should only be counting his share. So he has to win 1,144 uncontested delegates."
Jan 30, 2012 "So the winner on Tuesday gets all of Floridas 50 delegates to the GOP convention, right? It says so right in the Republican Party of Florida primary rules.
Eh . . . probably. You see, the Republican National Committee wanted the primary season to start later (that didnt work out so well) and they wanted the early states to award their delegates proportionally. But those rules came about under Chairman Michael Steele; by the time Florida set its date, Reince Priebus was running the show, and the RNC approved the current winner-takes-all system. The Florida GOP says its a non-issue; the current RNC leadership has signed off on the winner-take-all system.
The Tampa Bay Timess Adam Smith reports, All it takes is a registered Florida Republican to file a protest with the RNC, and the partys contest committee would have to consider the issue when it meets in August just before the convention.
The partys primary rules were intended to encourage a longer primary season, while ensuring that four smaller states Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina hold the first contests. Only those states were permitted to hold primaries or caucuses before March 6, the RNC decreed, while any state that held a contest prior to April 1 would award its delegates proportionally. Under the rules, any party that violated the sanctioned calendar would lose half its delegates and potentially face further penalties.
Republican leaders in Florida, determined to give the state a big say in picking the nominee, decided having their delegation slashed from 99 to 50 was worth it and set Floridas primary for Jan. 31. The RNC has said Florida will be a winner-take-all primary, but that decision is still subject to challenge.
If tomorrows results are in line with recent polls, Mitt Romney will win 50 delegates and everyone else will win none. (Thus, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul spent a limited amount of time and resources in Florida.) But if it were proportional, Romney would win about 20-25, Gingrich would win about 14-16, Santorum would win about 5-7, and Paul would win 5-6.
In other words, Newt Gingrich may have enormous incentive to file protests and perhaps even legal challenges to the RNC to make Florida allocate its delegates proportionally."
State by state math HERE
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.
“If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.”
So what? There will be no USA after 2016....Maybe not even after 2012.
Romney is the NEW Juan McLAim....
WE’RE GONNA LOSE!!!!!.
He may take a dive like Juan did....
Lots of work putting that together too bad it doesn’t get any furthur than here. Thanks for the effort
“The US Mat” — Lot’s of great work at your page and site!
As someone born in Wisconsin (left during my school years but still claim as my home state) I salute you!
Rick Santorum is NOT a conservative.
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016.
If Romney is the best the GOP can do in 2012, then what’s left of the country will be better off without it.
In a year...the GOP Washington types will be sitting around looking at the devastation...Obama reelected, the Dems picking up twenty seats in the House and holding the Senate...and they’ll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.
It’s all so predictiable.
it would seem that the rules are comprised to be used by the party puppet masters to control the primary process for the party royals
Ineligible RINO Backstabber:
"Thank me. When I cheat, I win."
The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.
Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008
Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"Im told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palins people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romneys former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off .hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."
"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the Diva leak was Nicolle Wallaces husband."
And it will be "blamed" on the conservative base.
If Obama wins reelection we won't have a shred of the Constitution left. So your admonition about no national GOP is rather moot.
...and theyll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.
No they wont! The fools will be lamenting having put up someone as conservative as Romney. Yes they really think Romney is a conservative.
Exactly. We're too stupid to know that we have to follow the direction of our betters in the northeast.
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