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Romney win, now almost certain, won't decide future of GOP
Salem News ^ | April 7, 2012 | David M. Shribman

Posted on 04/07/2012 3:10:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Some ideological clunkers mixed in with some kernels of truth. An interesting column – that dances around the depth of distrust conservatives hold for the GOP establishment.

Newt well knows the subterranean delegate battle and he’s waging it.

Newt Gingrich is going after unpledged delegates - that haven't committed in primaries already completed, including all the PA (72) and MT (26) and (IL (69) delegates, since these delegates remain unpledged regardless of primary vote.

AND though there are going to be some “winner take all” primaries, the following contests are also on the schedule:

RI (16) proportional
NY (92) proportional
WVA (28) proportional -- elect delegates (who list their presidential pick on ballot)
NC (52) proportional
OR (25) proportional
AK (33) proportional
KY (42) proportional
TX (155) proportional
CA (169) proportional (by district)
NM (20) proportional
SD (25) proportional

The Green Papers

Then there are the Contested delegates: …. “delegates have to be "uncontested" in order to count. The frontrunner's rivals argue some of the states that awarded Romney all of their delegates violated Republican National Committee rules when they moved their contests ahead of April 1 and therefore should distribute delegates proportionally. This dispute, if it continues, would not be ruled on until the August convention in Tampa.

"All the media counts right now give him all of Florida, which is against the rules, all of Arizona, which is against the rules, and all of Idaho," Gingrich said Monday. "Those are all three proportional states and they should only be counting his share. So he has to win 1,144 uncontested delegates."

FL: 50 delegates
ID: 32 delegates
AZ: 29 delegates

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Jan 30, 2012 "So the winner on Tuesday gets all of Florida’s 50 delegates to the GOP convention, right? It says so right in the Republican Party of Florida primary rules.

Eh . . . probably. You see, the Republican National Committee wanted the primary season to start later (that didn’t work out so well) and they wanted the early states to award their delegates proportionally. But those rules came about under Chairman Michael Steele; by the time Florida set its date, Reince Priebus was running the show, and the RNC approved the current winner-takes-all system. The Florida GOP says it’s a non-issue; the current RNC leadership has signed off on the winner-take-all system.

The Tampa Bay Times’s Adam Smith reports, “All it takes is a registered Florida Republican to file a protest with the RNC, and the party’s contest committee would have to consider the issue when it meets in August just before the convention.”

The party’s primary rules were intended to encourage a longer primary season, while ensuring that four smaller states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina — hold the first contests. Only those states were permitted to hold primaries or caucuses before March 6, the RNC decreed, while any state that held a contest prior to April 1 would award its delegates proportionally. Under the rules, any party that violated the sanctioned calendar would lose half its delegates and potentially face further penalties.

Republican leaders in Florida, determined to give the state a big say in picking the nominee, decided having their delegation slashed from 99 to 50 was worth it and set Florida’s primary for Jan. 31. The RNC has said Florida will be a winner-take-all primary, but that decision is still subject to challenge.

If tomorrow’s results are in line with recent polls, Mitt Romney will win 50 delegates and everyone else will win none. (Thus, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul spent a limited amount of time and resources in Florida.) But if it were proportional, Romney would win about 20-25, Gingrich would win about 14-16, Santorum would win about 5-7, and Paul would win 5-6.

In other words, Newt Gingrich may have enormous incentive to file protests and perhaps even legal challenges to the RNC to make Florida allocate its delegates proportionally."

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State by state math HERE

1 posted on 04/07/2012 3:10:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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RNC neutrality challenged on Romney

Why don’t Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just quit?

2 posted on 04/07/2012 3:10:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.


3 posted on 04/07/2012 3:13:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble

“If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.”
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So what? There will be no USA after 2016....Maybe not even after 2012.


4 posted on 04/07/2012 3:28:32 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney is the NEW Juan McLAim....
WE’RE GONNA LOSE!!!!!.

He may take a dive like Juan did....


5 posted on 04/07/2012 3:51:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lots of work putting that together too bad it doesn’t get any furthur than here. Thanks for the effort


6 posted on 04/07/2012 4:00:03 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: mosesdapoet

“The US Mat” — Lot’s of great work at your page and site!

As someone born in Wisconsin (left during my school years but still claim as my home state) I salute you!


7 posted on 04/07/2012 4:15:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Santorum is NOT a conservative.

Flawed article.


8 posted on 04/07/2012 4:20:51 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Noble

If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016.

If Romney is the best the GOP can do in 2012, then what’s left of the country will be better off without it.


9 posted on 04/07/2012 4:23:09 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm not sure how certain it is.


Instead of Romney and Santorum being separated by nearly 400 delegates, as widely reported -- which suggests Romney has essentially sewn up the race -- the White House hopefuls are separated by only 229 delegates, said the memo published by CNN and reviewed by United Press International.

"This race is much closer than the media and Establishment Republicans would like to report," the Thursday memo said, as Santorum met with several conservative leaders in Northern Virginia to consider strategies to help his campaign.


Memo:(CNN) Romney delegates counted too high
10 posted on 04/07/2012 4:31:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jim Noble

In a year...the GOP Washington types will be sitting around looking at the devastation...Obama reelected, the Dems picking up twenty seats in the House and holding the Senate...and they’ll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.

It’s all so predictiable.


11 posted on 04/07/2012 4:42:15 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: AlexW

IS THIS THE GREATEST MOMENT IN AMERICAN CONSERVATISM?

YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY
AND THE FELON.


12 posted on 04/07/2012 4:43:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the ongoing primary, again exposes the byzantine rules which change state by state, and screams for some sort of reform and conformity.

it would seem that the rules are comprised to be used by the party puppet masters to control the primary process for the party royals

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13 posted on 04/07/2012 4:45:01 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee

Ineligible RINO Backstabber:
"Thank me. When I cheat, I win."


FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

14 posted on 04/07/2012 4:48:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kjo
...........It’s all so predictiable.

And it will be "blamed" on the conservative base.

15 posted on 04/07/2012 5:11:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016

If Obama wins reelection we won't have a shred of the Constitution left. So your admonition about no national GOP is rather moot.

16 posted on 04/07/2012 5:34:36 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: kjo

...and they’ll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.
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No they wont! The fools will be lamenting having put up someone as conservative as Romney. Yes they really think Romney is a conservative.


17 posted on 04/07/2012 5:43:47 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
future of GOP


18 posted on 04/07/2012 5:52:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
future of GOP


19 posted on 04/07/2012 5:54:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And it will be "blamed" on the conservative base.

Exactly. We're too stupid to know that we have to follow the direction of our betters in the northeast.

20 posted on 04/07/2012 5:57:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

TX (155) proportional


The Texax SREC is making noise about trying to change the Texas allocation method to a ‘winner take all’. Apparently some are trying to get enough votes and then call an emergency session to pass the change. Not sure what the possibility of it passing is.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2868680/posts


21 posted on 04/07/2012 6:05:34 AM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In a perverse sort of way, it just might reform the national GOP.

A lot bigger delegate allocation to states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall and a lot less to those which have a consistent history of delivering none.

DC, for example, should not get any more delegates than American Samoa. No way should California get more than Texas.

22 posted on 04/07/2012 6:07:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In a perverse sort of way, it just might reform the national GOP.

A lot bigger delegate allocation to states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall and a lot less to those which have a consistent history of delivering none.

DC, for example, should not get any more delegates than American Samoa. No way should California get more than Texas.

23 posted on 04/07/2012 6:07:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kjo
In a year...the GOP Washington types will be sitting around looking at the devastation...Obama reelected, the Dems picking up twenty seats in the House and holding the Senate...and they’ll be saying...maybe we should have nominated a conservative.

No they won't. The GOPE would rather lose the election to Obama than win with a conservative. They hated Reagan and they hate Newt who is the only conservative in this race.

24 posted on 04/07/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree with the Dodo picture about the future of the GOP.

The GOP has shown itself to be uwholly unworthy of protecting this country.

In the 20 years since 1992, the GOP has been feckless in defeating the Dems, in spite of our efforts to infuse conservative principles and candidates into it.When they were put into power withthe House, the Senate and the White House, they failed to lead and to get the problems under control, but made things exponentially worse. Thye failed to do the hard work of convicting a lawless, impeached President. They have failed to counter a lawless, ineligible President in the face of his constant trashing of the Constitution.

This is the most important election of our lifetimes, and I rank it among 1860 and 1980 in the effects on the future of America. And for this, we are beign given Romney, who does not have a Reublican or conservative bone in his body.

I’m all in for Newt and praying he gets to Tampa and we have some kind of showdown in Tampa. My back-up position is ABO in case Romney becomes our nominee.

But win or lose after 11/6, I believe it is time for the GOP to go the way of the Whigs. Conservatives need their own party to get America back to greatness, and the GOP is no longer the vehicle to do so.

Just like there comes a time when the old clunker needs to be retired and money for repairs directed towards a new vehicle, thus it is such for the GOP.

After 2012, we need to have a third party. America will survive. And thrive if we do so.


25 posted on 04/07/2012 6:17:15 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: exit82

There’s no reason to wait.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/


26 posted on 04/07/2012 6:19:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Amntn
No they won't. The GOPE would rather lose the election to Obama than win with a conservative.

I agree. They'll use it to blame conservatives and push someone even more liberal next time.

As far as I'm concerned, the GOP doesn't want to fix anything anyway. After all, once a problem is fixed, they lose the threat.
27 posted on 04/07/2012 6:48:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly. I won’t support a GOP that backs Mitt.


28 posted on 04/07/2012 7:35:05 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: cripplecreek

The only way to make the GOP take notice is to cut off their funding though the RNC.

I have a friend who is a longtime party operative and she actually thinks that everything is fine, that they are raising more money than ever, etc.

There are many lemming GOP members. The question is whether or not there are enough of us Conservatives to make our voices heard.

I fear not. It’s ALL about the money for the future of the GOP unless big donors cut off the party’s allowance.


29 posted on 04/07/2012 7:41:00 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: exit82

After 2012, we need to have a third party.


Plenty out there now. Just make your choice.

Some but not all.......

America First Party
Christian Liberty Party
America’s Party
American Party
Independent American Party

Americans Elect
Citizens Party
Independence Party of America
Modern Whig Party
Reform Party of the United States of America
Unity Party of America
Justice Party USA

Working Families Party
Labor Party
Socialist Party USA
Communist Party USA
Socialist Labor Party of America*
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Socialist Equality Party (United States)
Socialist Workers Party
Freedom Socialist Party
Socialist Action
Socialist Alternative
Workers World Party

American Populist Party
Boston Tea Party
Jefferson Republican Party
Objectivist Party
American Reform Party

Constitution Party
Green Party
Libertarian Party


30 posted on 04/07/2012 7:43:46 AM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Romney win, now almost certain, won’t decide future of GOP”

Yes it will. A Republican party that would nominate a man whose record is left wing enough to be a Democrat is not a party that any conservative could support. It is a sign that the GOP is willing to move to the left. And if so, so be it. I won’t go with it; I would think some others would not also.


31 posted on 04/07/2012 7:50:48 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: deport

Anyone looking at the creation of a new party needs to take a look at history and how its been done in the past. The transition from Whig to Republican wasn’t a simple step. It required the transition through the short lived Freesoil party which few people have ever heard of.

They never elected a president but did elect a fair number of congressmen. Most important they attracted abolitionist Democrats and Whigs who became the GOP.


32 posted on 04/07/2012 8:12:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Amntn

If what you say is true...and it may be...why are we still voting Republican? What good is this party? What’s the point?

I voted for Bob Barr in ‘08 and was roundly castigated by some on this board and others for admitting such...if the GOP is going to allow the msm to pick our nominee every four years...what is the point of having the GOP?

What’s the party good for?


33 posted on 04/07/2012 8:16:44 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good analysis CW, the author has a good grasp on most everything, except to the point where he says that Texas is in Santorum’s favor, based on his “economic” stand. The “issues” on his “Social” stand are also troubled, but the biggest miscalculation is Santorum’t complete lack of economic understanding, as well as his plagiaristic use of the other candidates previous ideas, that Santorum has adopted as his own and claims that they were his ideas from the start.

As far as the illustration of the shape of the GOP, he emphasized the size of the “Populist” branch in the party as being much larger than it actually is. The “Plutocrat” branch is correctly in charge, and always will be, because they have the ability to organize.

The “Populist” branch is nothing more that a fragmented, disorganized herd of cats and never will get it together like they keep threatening to do. Ross Perot is the epitome of that branch and took it to the limits of it's potential.

Ronald Reagan was a rare politician who, through his vast ability and pragmatic approach, was able to gather these groups together for two election cycles in a row. And Reagan clearly admitted that the “Populist” branch, was the most difficult to appease or influence, mainly because of their incessant malcontent and nearly psychotic negativity.

34 posted on 04/07/2012 8:20:15 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.

The party is bigger than the presidency. The GOP was 'dead' in 92, 'dead' in 96, 'dead' in 2006/2008. The problem is most conservatives are too uninformed and more-so too impatient to fight the party battles needed.

How many people are precinct delegates or precinct captains? How many are involved in local parties? How many have been delegates to state conventions? State convention is also were our state RNC reps are chosen.

35 posted on 04/07/2012 8:35:04 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The future of the GOP may have been decided in 1936, when Alf Landon promised to implement the New Deal on a business-like approach. How many conservatives have been the nominee since that time?


36 posted on 04/07/2012 8:46:52 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: kjo
I will happily vote for a third party candidate if he/she can beat Obama.

The problem is Obama. He is not the typical democrat that we can continue to put up with for another 4 years. He is EVIL and MUST BE REMOVED at all costs!

37 posted on 04/07/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: cripplecreek
The GOPE would rather lose the election to Obama than win with a conservative

Didn't George W. Romney essentially endorse LBJ in 1964? He said that he "accepted" but did not "endorse" Goldwater.

38 posted on 04/07/2012 9:05:55 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: hosepipe
Romney is the NEW Juan McLAim.... WE’RE GONNA LOSE!!!!!

Who's the candidate who could win?

39 posted on 04/07/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by x
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To: Darren McCarty

“How many people are precinct delegates or precinct captains?”

Generally, people who keep threatening to go third party lack the foresight and discipline to work inside the party to reform it. They wrongly think that threats work. nope - VOTES work.

The biggest myth around here is that the elites dictate what happens. Actually, its the GOP primaries, and GOP primary voters, who dictate the course of the party. and who influences that vote? precinct captains and those involved in primary campaigns are key. the top dogs (’elites’) have sway but its actually not much compared with the power of the grassroots.


40 posted on 04/07/2012 11:49:59 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney, McCain, no difference - same result. Obama wins. GOP will never learn.


41 posted on 04/07/2012 1:28:55 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since they have ignored the blow outs of 2006 and again in 2008, and ignored the wake up call the Tea Party gave them in 2010, Romney may be the best thing that's happened to the Republican party since Reagan.

If his candidacy can't put a stake through the heart of the rino insanity that rules the party and through the loyalty of those who follow it, nothing can.

Personally, I just don't understand his appeal.

His record, his flip and his flops, and now his very negative campaign are not what I vote for.

42 posted on 04/07/2012 2:24:34 PM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: Jim Noble

“If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.”

There will be one, just not one lead by Mitt unless mitt wants to sing our tunes.

As I have reiterated many times. In the end our battle cannot be won in Washington only in our State houses can the battle for conservatism be won. It thus does not matter who becomes president. We must drive issues from our States, not Washington if we are to have any hope of reversing the flow of power in our directions.

I will vote for Mitt because he is better than Obama, I won’t worry about Santorm or Newt because they can’t win at this point and winning in their desired contest(the presidency) is not important anyway.

In the end there are 50 State & local republican party’s that we must focus on. We must obtain control of the majority of our State & local governments. We must drive them towards resistance to Washington.

Retaining the house, or taking the senate might be helpful politically crippling Washington’s ability to stop or resist our efforts. But Washington cannot and will not lead us to where we need to go. They will not willingly give up power.

We must uses our States to wrestle that power from them, Washington will fall inline only when it becomes practically & politically done.


43 posted on 04/07/2012 2:26:03 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: x

[ Who’s the candidate who could win? ]

Interesting question.. A conservative might do it..
Seems the republican party generally does NOT want a conservative..
-OR- if they do obviously the voting mechanism is corrupted.. (DEEPLY).. could be both..

Which makes(and is making) some wonder if they are actually republicans..
Wondering WHO ARE THEY politically..

Selecting a liberal Mormon from Massachusetts as republican poster boy.. is cartoonish..
Many including me are not amused..

Mormons follow an Angel called Imoron or MoronI or something like that..
It looks increasingly like republicans are indeed MORON’s..
-OR- theres a rogue program in the voting machines.. call it a Virus.. or Trojan.. or Worm..


44 posted on 04/07/2012 3:42:56 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; BillyBoy; ...

I have one hope. It’s that while Romney isn’t conservative, if elected President, he’ll be forced by circumstances (both economic and political) to make conservative choices. Remember, when Bill Clinton ran for President, he didn’t plan on getting people off of welfare rolls, but was forced by circumstances to do so. Also, Romney values his popularity and doesn’t want the U.S. to go off a cliff under his watch.

Conservatives shouldn’t give him unqualified support, but we can threaten to withbhold support if he doesn’t meet certain conditions (judges, entitlement reform). Perhaps keeping him under the threat of losing support would be more effective than refusing to support him under any circumstances.

The truth is that the United States may not be able to survive a second Obama term. Doesn’t it suck that this is what we’ve been reduced to?


45 posted on 04/07/2012 9:38:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I will vote for the Republican nominee, period. Thanks CF.


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47 posted on 04/07/2012 9:55:13 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: EternalVigilance

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48 posted on 04/07/2012 11:21:04 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Jim Noble
If Romney is the nominee there will be no national GOP in 2016. There may not even be a national GOP after August 2012.

I disagree - the GOP would be just a little more left-leaning and watered down, but it's a GOP that we all recognized since 1988 - George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain. All got the nominee because it was "their turn" or they had the most money, and all liked Big Government, and all either lost outright to Democrats, or helped turn the White House over to Democrats.

Romney fits right in with the Bushes, Dole, and McCain.
49 posted on 04/07/2012 11:24:32 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Chunga

Romney troll.


50 posted on 04/08/2012 4:36:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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