Posted on 03/29/2012 6:09:43 PM PDT by QT3.14
...The problem for the left is that they do not have a lot of interaction with conservatives, whose intellects are often disparaged, ideas are openly mocked, and intentions regularly questioned. Conservative ideas rarely make it onto the pages of most middle- and high-brow publications of news and opinion the left frequents. So, liberals regularly find themselves surprised when their ideas face pushback.
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I’m shocked Chrissy in the video didn’t mention if this ‘discovery’ gave him a ‘tingle’ up his leg.
I’m a high school drop out and I know its unconstitutional.
I can’t wait to see the looks on these so called “journalists” faces when this thing is deemed unconstitutional.
It will be priceless.
Stick to what you are good at Chris....licking Obama’s boots.
As do all liberals, especially those on TV. Can the liberals just give an honest statement? Not on MSNBC!
I’m pretty surprised to learn that Chris Matthews can remember how to breathe air.
That evening I may watch a network nightly news program for the first time since January 19, 2009.
I’m Canadian and I knew it would be unconstitutional.
Up till now the only thing Little Chrissie knew that was unconstitutional was keeping and bearing arms....
Had Matthews and the other so-called "progressives" understood the essential ideas of liberty expounded by Madison, Jay and Hamilton in those essays, they would not have "trouble" understanding why this mandate is "unconstitutional."
If one uses as a standard the intellectual arguments articulated in the debates of the 1787 Convention, and among the participants debating ratification of the proposed U. S. Constitution throughout the States in 1787-88, then what an embarrassing look into the mind and thought process of current Justice Kagan in some of her questions and statements!
Justice Breyer's nonsensical musings, when combined with those of Justice Kagan, should alarm every citizen who cherishes the Constitution's underlying principles, as articulated and explained by America's Founders and Framers of that Constitution's protections for liberty.
My post from another thread related to Kagan:
"Kagan: "'The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?
"'In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.
"'It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.'"
This statement tells us everything we need to know about Justice Kagan's concept of "coercive power" versus "individual liberty" and the Constitution's protections for the latter.
America's Founders viewed "government" as "coercive" by nature.
America's Founders understood that "government" creates no money, has no money, and cannot "gift" money without first "taking" it from someone--a "coercive" act in itself.
Besides, this "boatload of money" is not "federal money." It is "the People's" money, and who is naive or uninformed enough to believe that "taking" it from the people, sending it to Washington, and then doling it out to the States is an efficient way to provide "poor people's health care"????
Oh, how far we have come from the genius and wisdom which gave birth to America's Constitution, America's liberty for all, and America's prosperity and greatness!!!
I hope that these members of the Supreme Court will understand that future generations of Americans and individuals all over the world, given the new technologies which enable them to study the Founders' ideas, will judge them by the Framers' standards, not by the standards of the so-called "progressive" politicians in this Administration.
"Ideas have Consequences" (Weaver). America's Founders' ideas produced freedom, opportunity, prosperity and plenty for hundreds of millions of oppressed people.
The "progressives'" ideas of redistribution (socialism) have produced approaching tyranny and oppression, mediocrity, and want, in every society where they have been tried.
Chris, I’m pretty surprised you have the capacity to learn anything.
Surprise me when it’s a done deal. I’m not counting any chickens before they’re hatched.
Canadians, I believe, likely know more about our history and the Constitutions than our own citizens. (I lived in Canada for 3 years.)
I thought it was interesting that Harry Roid is concerned about what it means for the interstate commerce clause.
The democrats use that for a lot of things.
Canadians, I believe, likely know more about our history and the Constitutions than our own citizens. (I lived in Canada for 3 years.)
He meant Morning Constitution.
Pray for America
I’m Canadian and I knew it would be unconstitutional.
Where are you from brother?
Nice rant - many great points.
Chrissy was dreaming liberal goons could force all of us to buy a Volt.... I’m sure he thinks that’s constitutional too...
“That evening I may watch a network nightly news program for the first time since January 19, 2009.”
You might also want to watch next election night if Obo’s goin’ down.
“Stick to what you are good at Chris....licking Obama’s boots.”
His BOOTS?
CHRIS MATTHEWS; I’m pretty surprised to learn that the mandate might be unconstitutional
It would surprise him if the Gov. told him he had to buy a Chevy even if he didn’t want one.
"deemed" does not mean the same as "ruled"
"deemed" may apply when there isn't much evidence.
-——”Kagan: “’The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?
“’In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.
“’It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.’”—
Reading Kagans quote....I can only imagine what Scalia,Roberts,Thomas smust be thinking.....
"deemed" does not mean the same as "ruled"
"deemed" may apply when there isn't much evidence.
I can’t wait to see the looks on these so called “journalists” faces when this thing is deemed unconstitutional.
the moral here is:don’t criticize the supreme court on national television while giving a state of the union address. They will get even.
Canadians, I think, are amongst the most informed of citizens, much of it due to the fact, because we sleep next to an elephant and every movement it makes, we know about. Consequently, our education system has developed an outward focus which grew to include much of the world.
The 600 lb gorrilla in the room is that much of what has come from the federal gov in the last several decades is unconstitutional.
They seem to justify a lot of things through that clause.
Edmonton, Alberta.
It’s like a big city, with a small town feel to it.
Nice. I’m from London, Ontario. Not too small not too big.
He has tingling up his leg.
I think its well past time to go after the interstate commerce clause.
Where are you from brother?
The bro is from Kenya.
I’ve met a fair number from there. I’m guessing you’re not a fan of Mcguinty either.:D
Not Bad Ice in my Scotch????
The benefits of being a hound that sleeps next to the biggest, baddest dog in the world.
boots ?
Well...I MIGHT agree with you, except we have Canadian “friends” who moved here 30 years ago, raised their kids here....and have spawned a bunch of LIBERALS who vote Democrat! Maybe it’s because they left...and got tainted here...LOL
I’m with you on that Mulberry. We can’t count on the court ruling our way. It’s too easy to “buy” judges off, or threaten them, and if push comes to shove a conservative judge might well commit suicide in some odd way.
I’m not at all surprised that the liberal media is surprised at the obvious. They are flat earthers who are so tunnel visioned they can’t see anything but the path up the bum of big government.
He’s the worst Premier we’ve had in my lifetime (next to Bob Rae of course)
“Edmonton, Alberta.”
Nice. Cold at night though. Even in August.
And the tunnels between downtown buildings make for a feeling of being rabbits or moles. But hey. At -22 degrees Fahrenheit, I won’t complain.
If the IM is ruled unconstitutional, the bill is gutted. There was no way the Dems were gonna pass it without the IM.
I’m not at all surprised that Chrissy is surprised.
To call that dolt uninformed and ignorant is to be kind.
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