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Obama kills coal - as promised, GOP is MIA on EPA overreach
The Washington Times ^ | March 29, 2012 | By Steve Milloy

Posted on 03/29/2012 4:36:34 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Obama Environmental Protection Agency just condemned to death an entire U.S. industry - a legal and scientific horror story that congressional Republicans failed miserably to prevent.

The EPA’s newly proposed greenhouse gas emission standards for coal-fired power plants will be finalized by the Obama administration, win or lose, after the November election.

Though the proposed standards leave alone existing coal-fired power plants, they effectively prohibit the construction of new plants by establishing an impossible-to-meet emissions standard.

But don’t get the idea that the EPA threw the coal industry a bone by omitting existing coal-fired plants, as the agency has already issued two regulations - the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the Mercury Air Toxics Standard - that will prematurely retire about 20 percent of existing coal-fired plants over the next few years.

The supposed scientific grounds for the new EPA greenhouse gas emissions is global warming. But even if you believe that man-made emissions are changing climate for the worse, there are two realities that expose the EPA’s moves as purely political.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anwr; climatechange; coal; election2012; energy; epa; failure; fatlisa; globalhoaxing; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenreligion; heyheyhey; keystonexl; lisajackson; marxistcoup; obamunism; opec; peoplehate; populationcontrol; socialism; tyranny
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1 posted on 03/29/2012 4:36:45 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If this is like previous EPA reductions in emmissions, even existing plants aren’t safe. If you spend more than a certain percentage of the plant’s value in one year (such as getting a new turbine and generator in the same year), then the plant is no longer an “existing” plant. It is now a new plant subject to current regulations. This actually hampers a power company’s efforts to modernize and upgrade their plants.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 4:44:19 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it can be done, it can be undone.


3 posted on 03/29/2012 4:44:33 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The liberals killed the Northwest logging industry, putting tens of thousands out of work and turning dozens of counties into wards of the state. It was just accepted.

The liberals turned off the water to California's Inland Empire causing a quarter of a million people to become unemployed and seriously reducing the food supply of the nation.

And, now, coal miners will lose their jobs, power plants will be shut down, and electricity bills will increase. But, the writer's correct. The Republican response has been, um, muted.

4 posted on 03/29/2012 4:48:04 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama kills coal

With all these stories about the Obama kids going crazy coast-to-coast, border-to-border I wish newsmen would be careful how the phrase things in the news.

5 posted on 03/29/2012 4:48:41 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.


6 posted on 03/29/2012 4:48:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing new here. When will you understand that politicians are both bribeable and willing to take stands that seems politically correct at the moment. They are POLITICIANS for goodness sakes - both Dems and Reps. Yes, that means that both parties are CREEPS! (can’t use proper language here).


7 posted on 03/29/2012 5:02:25 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: BfloGuy

Very depressing :(


8 posted on 03/29/2012 5:21:39 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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Maybe we need to start building hydroelectric plants in Green Cities and States. Flood the Rats out. There is no pleasing the EPA or the environmentalist. I live close to several Coal Fired Steam Plants. They are much better than the hydroelectric dams that drove people off their land their families had lived on for generations.

Personally I think everyone who works for EPA should have their electric utilities disconnected to their homes, their likely taxpayer owned vehicles taken away, and the power disconnected too their offices as well. Let those two faced hypocrites be forced to live the lifestyle they are forcing upon us unconstitutionally.

9 posted on 03/29/2012 5:34:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


10 posted on 03/29/2012 5:39:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: cva66snipe
Maybe we need to start building hydroelectric plants ....

Good luck with that .... saw a story recently where the Obamanites are spending taxpayer money for surveys ... paying people money to fill them out regarding 4 private hydroelectric dam facilities .... people not affected, who know nothing about the dams. In other words, trying to gin up complaints where there are none so they can move in and close them down, remove the dams .... whatever they're going to do. I'm sure if you dig deep enough in the Obama administration sludge, you'll find a dam-hating enviro-whacko worried about some fish or water bug or something.

11 posted on 03/29/2012 5:55:33 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: BfloGuy

The liberals killed the Pacific Northwest logging industry and the commercial fishing industry putting tens of thousands out of work, promising jobs that did not exist, turning dozens of counties into wards of the state. It was just accepted. As was the huge loss to the US Balance of Trade - the first steps in turning the US into a net importer of food and toward becoming a debtor nation.

Gotta love them Libs: Nixon, Reagan, and Clinton.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 5:58:38 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LMAO, glad I didn’t buy an electric car!


13 posted on 03/29/2012 6:03:11 PM PDT by wizwor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Americans better start getting used to sitting in the dark with no boob tube and no way to charge their cell phone battery. We’re all cave dwellers now. How ‘bout that “progressivism”?


14 posted on 03/29/2012 6:13:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: MissMagnolia
Maybe we need to start building hydroelectric plants ....

Ain't going to happen: the enviro-Nazis have convinced the sheeple that salmon are more important than power or crops. The dam below is one of many being destroyed. The Klamath River dams are threatened, also.

Condit Dam breached: A slow-motion video offers a different view

15 posted on 03/29/2012 6:30:49 PM PDT by CedarDave (Romney: The Etch A Sketch Candidate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6NArPUFLRI)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

,,,,,, the union coal miners love 0bama just one more reason for them to vote for him again .


16 posted on 03/29/2012 6:31:07 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP is nothing more than the “relief” party for the American NWO types. They are to provide an outlet for those of us who won’t willingly surrender our souls to the leaders and community organizers.


17 posted on 03/29/2012 6:34:36 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I will bankrupt the coal companies” - the guy does keep his promises.....


18 posted on 03/29/2012 6:49:53 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: MissMagnolia
Really hydroelectric is the least efficient of all and the most destructive. I just posted it too give them a taste of what government has been dishing out since The New Deal.

Many people don't know that the first test of the Endangered Species Act was used to try and stop a runaway federal agency called TVA. TVA wanted to build an extension of sorts Ft Loudon Lake called Tellico Lake and they connected via a canal. Tellico Dam does not generate power it has no generators. It simply increased the pool capacity of Ft Loundon Lake. TVA by it's own admission building Tellico Lake was a monetary and energy looser that would not pay for itself.

The opposition too the lake as such wasn't environmentalist but local land owners of prime farm land and sportsman. There was several dams upstream but the river was good Trout fishing water.

A biologist found what they thought at the time was a fish {Snail Darter} common only too that river and that was the how those opposed chose to try and bring an end too TVA's roughshod you'll do as we say or else tactics.

After several court battles the project finally died out so everyone thought. But Sen Howard Baker and Rep John Duncan Sr ran a midnight bill through to fund completion.

What was done after that should anger anyone who believes in property rights. Landowners who had even a small portion of their property touching the TVA high water boundary were forced to sell the entire parcel. Meaning if you had 500 acres and one tenth an acre was lake front TVA got the 500 as well. TVA then sold it to developers for a song. The original landowners had their land sold for many times over what TVA paid and what developers had paid TVA.

19 posted on 03/29/2012 6:50:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
GOP is MIA on EPA overreach

The GOP is MIA on almost everything.

20 posted on 03/29/2012 7:18:01 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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