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Dems Warn Of ‘Grave Damage’ To SCOTUS If ‘Obamacare’ Is Struck Down
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| 3/28/2012
| sahil kapul
Posted on 03/29/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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This from yesterday, but I have not seen it posted. Interesting to hear Stretch Kerry and other Dems to respond. Imagine how stupid some like Ben Nelson will feel having this struck down after it ending thier career.
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:50:12 PM PDT
by
Sybeck1
To: Sybeck1
If like Kerry says this has been totally vetted, why did they exclude Republicans completely from participating?
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:52:45 PM PDT
by
rawhide
To: Sybeck1
"The court commands no armies, it has no money; it depends for its power on its credibility." Do liberals really think this way?
The court depends for its power on its Constitutional status as the highest level of the judicial branch of government.
Idjits.
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:53:18 PM PDT
by
Oberon
(Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
To: Sybeck1
I keep waiting for lightning to strike these people.
Their dishonesty is breathtaking.
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:54:51 PM PDT
by
SandyInSeattle
(Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
To: Sybeck1
“The court commands no armies, it has no money; it depends for its power on its credibility. The only reason people obey it is because it has that credibility. And the court risks grave damage if it strikes down a statute of this magnitude and importance, and stretches so dramatically and drastically to do it.
Kind of like creating a right of ‘privacy’ and then twisting and torturing the English language to make abortion legal?
To: Sybeck1
CTA (covering their a$$es).
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:56:11 PM PDT
by
DallasDeb
(usafa06mom)
To: Sybeck1
Kery : I can tell you that we had one of the most rigorous and transparent legislative processes that I have witnessed in almost 3 decades here in the Congress.”
...
We had to pass it to find out what was in it. How is that transparent??
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:56:26 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: Sybeck1
Just the usual suspects "warning" Supreme Court justices.Kinda like Osama Obama dissing certain members of the Court in a State of the Union speech.
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:56:58 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
To: Oberon
Wow... just wow...
They show their disdain for the Constitution,
and at the same time implicitly threaten disobedience to the rulings of the court if they rule against them?
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:57:09 PM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: Sybeck1
I’d wager “Kelo” already did some major damage.
To: Oberon
You nailed it. The dems are obviously applying political pressure on the court, but that could backfire big time.
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:58:50 PM PDT
by
matt1234
(Bring back the HUAC.)
To: Sybeck1
ROFL....the arrogance from the left over the healthcare debate is staggering.
To: Gay State Conservative
"Dems Warn Of Grave Damage To SCOTUS If Obamacare Is Struck Down" Translation: Spike Lee gonna tweet all your home addresses unless you vote for Obammycare!
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:59:01 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
To: Sybeck1
"throughly vetted by whom"...Parsley O'Bozo/Premium Gas Pelosi!???
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:59:06 PM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
( Kill all the terrorists, Protect all the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
To: Sybeck1
Must not be going well for the libtards!
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posted on
03/29/2012 1:59:27 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
To: Sybeck1
Everybody learns in the first year of law school that the law thats challenged is presumed to be constitutional, Blumenthal said.”
I didn't know that. It explains why the Necessary and Proper clause is kryptonite to the Left. Since the people are the sovereign, there should be a presumption of liberty and not a presumption of constitutionality.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:00:04 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(No court will save us from ourselves.)
To: GeronL; All
” Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) said the law has been thoroughly vetted.
As a senior member of the Finance Committee, he said, I can tell you that we had one of the most rigorous and transparent legislative processes that I have witnessed in almost 3 decades here in the Congress “
Is this why Pelosi CHANGED the Locks on the DOORS ????
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:00:04 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: Sybeck1
I can tell you that we had one of the most rigorous and transparent legislative processes that I have witnessed in almost 3 decades here in the Congress.... Three hours. Tops. For members and the public to read it, prior to the vote. 2700 pages. So, 15 pages per minute, to read it. Result? NOBODY read it. That's Rigorous. That's Transparent.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:00:34 PM PDT
by
C210N
(Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" Romney is the front-runner? Seriously??)
To: Sybeck1
Vetted? Really? By whom? The Dems that voted for it didn’t even read the damned thing. This is a blatant attempt to intimidate The Court by 3 sitting Senators by referencing the Courts reliance on the Senate for funding.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:00:43 PM PDT
by
JrsyJack
(a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
To: Sybeck1
How low-brow of Kerry and his merry band of democrat senators to threaten the Judicial Branch.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:00:53 PM PDT
by
Rapscallion
(The corruption and mismanagement persist because YOU tolerate it.)
To: Oberon
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi?
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT
by
Dick Bachert
(I really want Obozo to have another term -- in Leavenworth! 25 to life sounds about right.)
To: Oberon
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi?
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:02:02 PM PDT
by
Dick Bachert
(I really want Obozo to have another term -- in Leavenworth! 25 to life sounds about right.)
To: Sybeck1
By threatening the "credibility" of the Court the 'rats are essentially detaching from the rule of law, dropping yet one more of their many masks of sanity.
To: Sybeck1
Ralph Kramden:
"Why don't you shut up....."
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:02:41 PM PDT
by
Victor
(If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
To: matt1234
You nailed it. The dems are obviously applying political pressure on the court, but that could backfire big time.
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They only have to “get to” Kennedy and he won’t be that hard to coerce behind the scenes. I’m not at all convinced the court will overturn, the previous days were for nothing but theatre for public consumption. In the end Kennedy will sign onto the Sotamayor view and it will be upheld 5-4.
To: Sybeck1
The court commands no armies, it has no money; it depends for its power on its credibility. The only reason people obey it is because it has that credibility. And the court risks grave damage if it strikes down a statute of this magnitude and importance, and stretches so dramatically and drastically to do it. I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; ...
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:03:01 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Sybeck1
We worked with some of the brightest, most thoughtful and experienced constitutional Marxist lawyers in order to make sure that the law was constitutional. - Sen. Kerry
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:03:50 PM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
To: Sybeck1
Yes, I can clearly see why the Democrats would claim that the SCOTUS, upholding the rule of Law according to the letter of the Constitution, would see this as a “discredit”.
BUT DO IT ANYWAY! Discredit me please!
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:03:50 PM PDT
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
To: Sybeck1
It's breathtaking how the tortured liberal mind is so upside down / inside out.
What will damage the credibility of the Supreme Court or any particular Justice is any vote to uphold the mandate.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:04:28 PM PDT
by
sjmjax
(Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
To: stephenjohnbanker
The road to socialism requires millions of lies.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:04:50 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: Sybeck1
Never mind the fact that the judiciary is a co-equal branch of government, I guess that the implied threat here is tantamount to FDR's "
court packing" plan.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:05:01 PM PDT
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
To: Sybeck1
The court already has no credibility. Overturning Obamacare would be a small, a very small, step toward reclaiming some.
The court may no command armies, but it has a whole slew of federal marshals ready to throw into jail anyone a judge so says.
that, not its credibility, is why people obey the courts.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:05:01 PM PDT
by
chesley
(Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
To: Dick Bachert
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi?
Sounds like a threat to me, too. In fact, I'd wager that if they thought they could get away with it, Obama and the Dems in Congress would declare a "national emergency, institute Martial Law, and suspend the elections indefinitely.
To: stephenjohnbanker
Logic would lead you to believe that it is difficult to vet something that you have not read and need to pass to see what it says.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:06:07 PM PDT
by
JIM O
To: Sybeck1
If SCOTUS DOESN'T strike down 0bamacare, Uncle Sam will need a GRAVE. This isn't even really about 0bamacare or health care.. It's about the Legislative and Executive Branch CHANGING OUR CONSTITUTION. OUR FOREFATHERS CREATED SCOTUS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION FROM CHANGE!
CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE.. SCREW 'CHANGE'!
To: Sybeck1
The court commands no armies, it has no money; it depends for its power on its credibility. The only reason people obey it is because it has that credibility. And the court risks grave damage if it strikes down a statute of this magnitude and importance, and stretches so dramatically and drastically to do it. I take this as a threat from the Democrats!
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:06:59 PM PDT
by
rawhide
To: Sybeck1
So thoroughly researched it had to pass before it was read.
STOP WITH YOUR THREATS YOU COMMIES!! The will of the people have spoken.
To: Sybeck1
Blumenthal and Kerry who were joined by Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) called the press conference one day after liberals and other court watchers expressed serious doubts that the justices would uphold the Affordable Care Acts requirement to purchase insurance, a central pillar of the law.
Looks like the Rats are in full panic. They just saw their whole ideology put on trial and they didn't like what they saw one bit. It is as though they never had a concept of how bad their thinking looks after being dissected.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:07:07 PM PDT
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: Sybeck1
Playing politics and attacking the court’s credibility seems dangerous. If I was a justice on the fence this may be what pushes me the other way (I admit I’d be a lousy justice since something like this could affect me).
The bigger deal is if I were 1 of 4 justices on the losing side of a 5-4 decision. If the court’s credibility is being attacked by congress, I’d feel the need to side with the majority so that it isn’t a 5-4 decision. Maybe the Democrats are expecting a 5-4 their way and hoping to turn it into a 6-3. I doubt they are thinking that much though and are just making threats.
To: Sybeck1
Credibility? 52 million murders of our most innocent and vulnerable demonstrates that our highest court in the land has nothing in common with the US constitution.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:07:07 PM PDT
by
Manic_Episode
(Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
To: matt1234
The dems are obviously applying political pressure on the court, but that could backfire big time I think you're right ... I don't think any of the justices, left or right, look favorably upon intimidation or threats ... especially if done publicly.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:07:15 PM PDT
by
glennaro
To: Dick Bachert
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi? Absolutely sounds like a threat. I hope SCOTUS feels the same way...
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:07:31 PM PDT
by
moovova
(Comments at FreeRepublic are WAY MORE interesting than the articles.)
To: Sybeck1
“Blumenthal: When in doubt, uphold the law”
Hypocrite! For 50 years that’s NEVER been the attitude taken by liberals when reviewing any state legislation limiting abortion, any immigration laws, any laws restricting race quotas, etc.
To: Dick Bachert
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi?(Rocky Balboa voice) Absolutely. A long hot summer is comming.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:08:06 PM PDT
by
Drill Thrawl
(Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
To: Dick Bachert
Does that sound like a not so veiled threat to anyone but moi?
Damned right they did. They've declared war on a branch of government. Frightening.
To: Sybeck1
Gravely Damage THIS, liberals.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:08:30 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Shut up and drill.)
To: Jacquerie
Everybody learns in the first year of law school that the law thats challenged is presumed to be constitutionalHe is right about that, the way things are taught; laws are like a person being accused of a crime being innocent until proven guilty. Laws are Constitutional until proven not Constitutional. That is the system.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:08:39 PM PDT
by
central_va
( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Sybeck1
Two things I guarantee the SCOTUS doesn't like:
Public lectures from Obama and threats, veiled or otherwise, from members of congress.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:09:38 PM PDT
by
JPG
(Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
To: GeronL
When lies become sedition, people should know about it.
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posted on
03/29/2012 2:09:44 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: chesley
“The court already has no credibility”
Declaring greenhouse gas a pollutant, and letting the EPA do what they want to control it, sure helps their credibility case!
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