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Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps aside)!
U.S. Politics Online ^ | March 24, 2012 | Concerned Citizen

Posted on 03/29/2012 1:19:36 AM PDT by koinonia

Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps aside)!

Popular, young and strong on Values, dynamic Senator Rick Santorum wins, with a large, absolute Majority of Votes, against the Unpopular, old and flip-flop Millionaire Mitt Romney, if Gingrich (who has lost in too many States), at last, steps aside, recent Polls reveal :

For example, the Front Runner among Conservatives, Santorum, could crush Romney, with 55 % against only 33 % respectively, if Gingrich stepped aside, i.e. with a Winning margin up to + 21%, according to the latest Luisiana Polls by Magelan Strategies BR, of the 19 of March. Oherwise, (i.e. if Gingrich insists to Divide the Conservatives), Santorum again Wins against Romney there, but with a margin of 13% (37 % - 24%).

Nationwide, Conservatives Santorum and Gingrich already have 1 Million Votes more than Romney (with about 5 Millions against only 4, respectively), added to more than 1 Million also of Paul's.

More than 61 % of Gingrich Voters, when he steps down, prefer to vote for Santorum, while only 22 % would go to Romney, reveal f.ex. the same Polls.

Until now :

+ Santorum Won in 10 (Ten) States, while Gingrich only in 2 (two).

+ Santorum has got 246 Delegates, compared to only 141 for Gingrich.

+ Santorum has won about + 600.000 more Votes than Gingrich.

>>> With Santorum US President, Gingrich could become a good Vice-President, or State Secretary, etc.

=> United together, the Conservatives, (who already are a Majority in Votes : See above), could OBVIOUSLY also WIN the GOP 2012 Presidential Nomination, crushing Romney easily.

On the contrary, if Gingrich insists to Divide the Conservatives, he would be alone to bear the grave Responsibility, if, eventually, a MINORITY candidate, as Romney, might, perhaps, usurpate, at the end, a nomination that he obviously does not deserve, contrary to elementary Democratic Principles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: emptyvest; fightmittnotnewt; gingrich; idiocy; obama; rickisusedbygope; rickisusedbymitt; ricknotconservative; rickpoliticalwhore; romney; santorum; santorum4romney; stalkinghorserick; stupidparty; stupidpropaganda; stupidsantorum
The fact is (look at Louisiana after Gingrich was clearly not a contender for the nomination anymore after his losses in Mississippi and Alabama) that as a sole conservative candidate Santorum can beat Romney. My own thought is a Santorum/Gingrich ticket at a brokered convention. If the GOP supports Romney their doomed because in the primaries he has only been winning the states that are going to vote for Obama anyway. What is key is who can win the swing states? Romney won't; Santorum might (see this link: http://widget.newsinc.com/_cfvp/playlist16x9_player.html?CID=9387&WID=9073&VID=23599889&freewheel=90062&sitesection=rasmussen_sty).
1 posted on 03/29/2012 1:19:48 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: publius321

Thought you might find this interesting. Although it is late in the game, it is encouraging to see that the majority in the primaries want a conservative candidate. Paul, Santorum, Gingrich have more than a million more votes than Romney so far in the primaries. Those who are behind Paul and Gingrich are very unlikely to vote for Romney (the poll above seems to indicate that if Gingrich dropped out, his supporters would be divided with 3 out of 5 to Santorum, 1 out of 5 to Romney, and the other 1 out of 5 watching on the fence). This thing is far from over...


2 posted on 03/29/2012 1:25:33 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia
If the GOP supports Romney their doomed because in the primaries he has only been winning the states that are going to vote for Obama anyway.

Then again, we can't win the general election if the only states we win are the traditional red states. We need a few purple states to obtain the necessary electoral votes as we saw in 2008. flame away.

3 posted on 03/29/2012 1:28:05 AM PDT by RC one (may the strongest man win.)
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To: RC one

Agreed. But I think that is a key for the GOP not going with Romney. He won’t take the purple states.


4 posted on 03/29/2012 1:31:08 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia

Newt Gingrich isn’t getting out of this election, period. So you just dream on.

I’m not voting for Santorum because he is a pathological liar who has supported abortion in the past and has lied to you and others about his stance. There is a very good reason the folks in Pennsylvania voted his out of office - he is a hypocrite!

As for Romney - he is a Republican pretender, and a liberal Democrat in reality.

This isn’t over until the balloon drop at the end of the convention in August.


5 posted on 03/29/2012 1:31:50 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Not dreaming. Just putting this out there for discussion. At any rate, it is clear that Gingrich cannot get the 1144 delegates and that should already influence the rest of the primaries.

Saying that Santorum supported abortion seems a bit extreme - Republican, Catholic, father of 7 children. Do you have some actual proof on this?


6 posted on 03/29/2012 1:37:09 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia
Currently, they all lose to Obama in the major purple states i.e. Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Romney seems to be generally losing by less Ohio being the only exception. None of this is terribly encouraging.
7 posted on 03/29/2012 1:43:29 AM PDT by RC one (may the strongest man win.)
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To: koinonia

Prolife Politics or Postulate?
http://www.politijim.com/2012/03/prolife-politics-or-postulate.html

I know about Gingrich and Romney. Until two months ago I knew little about Rick Santorum. Now I know enough to distrust him thoroughly.

Jimmy Carter, too, was a fine Christian and social conservative, married to the same woman for decades with three children. As President he was a disaster - you need to look deeper into Santorum’s political past before thinking he would make a good conservative President - because he has never been politically a consistent conservative.


8 posted on 03/29/2012 1:47:53 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: RC one

The polls, at any rate, are just that - polls. What people will actually vote is harder to say. A week ago Santorum was considered above Obama in Florida, North Carolina, Virginia and Ohio, all states in the purple. See this video:

http://widget.newsinc.com/_cfvp/playlist16x9_player.html?CID=9387&WID=9073&VID=23599889&freewheel=90062&sitesection=rasmussen_sty


9 posted on 03/29/2012 1:48:38 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: SatinDoll

The video at that link sadly confirms your point - from his own lips. What a mess our country finds itself in! I would have never believed it, but he shows himself (at 4 minutes on) to be just another waffling politician (personally opposed, but...) - more conservative than others, perhaps, but inconsistent. Thank you for the link, that is, as thankful as I can be for such disappointing news.

For anyone else who wants to see the video in question (go to 4 minutes and watch him waffle): http://video.foxnews.com/v/1456869706001/santorum-in-a-michigan-state-of-mind/


10 posted on 03/29/2012 2:12:29 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia
That's why Newt is staying in—he knows he can't win so he sold out to Mitt.

Mitt needs Newt so his people can claim to be Newt people so they can smear Santorum without getting Romney's hands dirty. If these guys would just admit they would rather have Mitt win the nomination than Santorum they wouldn't be a bunch of mean-spireted hypocrites cuz the fact is-a hit on Rick is a kiss on Mitt.

Newt came in with class and now he has become a pathetic shadow of his former self—a useful idiot of the GOP-e RINOs.

Wonder what Mitt promised him?

11 posted on 03/29/2012 2:44:17 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Rick or Mitt take your pick.")
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To: koinonia

“...it is encouraging to see that the majority in the primaries want a conservative candidate.”

It is encouraging. What’s not encouraging, in fact it’s down right demoralizing, is that so many Republican voters want another candy-ass, never-run-anything dope like Wittle Wicky Santorum.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 3:20:34 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Santorum sucks)
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To: koinonia
When I debate Santorum bashers I ask them do they prefer Mitt to Rick?
Except for one exception—a Freeper Mittbot hiding out as a Newton (there are many here) actually said she preferred Mitt to Rick, a gutsy move that showed character—they hide behind Newt's skirts and say they support Gingrich. And since it is useless to criticize Newt cuz he is finished, they get a free pass to bash Rick while Mitt Romney is just a smiling.
When they bash Rick without admitting they prefer Mitt over the last conservative who can actually win—they exposed themselves as Mittbot hypocrites.
So whenever I encounter a Rick critic who claims to be a Newt supporter I tell him I am still not supporting their Mitt Romney because A-does the attack help Newt? No. Does it help Santorum? No. Does it help Mitt? Hell Yes!!! Then I tell them that at least Santorum isn't pro-abortion, pro homosexual marriage, pro gun control, pro Big government Romney/Obamacare pro allowing minors to get abortions without the parents permission etc etc like your Mitt. Newt Gingrich "says" he is staying in to stop Romney--but his "people" are doing just the opposite. And Newt knows it--again what did Romney promise him cuz he is doing all he can to prevent his silly fantasy about an open convention to happen. Attack Rick all you want and you can keep Newt as your first choice--just stop being a two face poltroon and fess up that you prefer Mitt to Rick.
13 posted on 03/29/2012 3:59:15 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Rick or Mitt take your pick.")
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To: koinonia

I’m not going to beat up on Gingrich but the simple fact is that now demanding that all get out of the race and conservatives do as they’re told.

I’m a Santorum guy and won’t be voting for Romney under any circumstances. I haven’t forgotten what an arrogant ass he is.


14 posted on 03/29/2012 4:05:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: koinonia

Probably time to just leave it alone and let it play out. It is too late for the non Romney’s. I doubt any miracles are going to happen.

When you do the math using the states left, Romney will get his 1144.

There are a bunch of Romney “sure win” winner take all states coming up.

Even if this would end up at the convention, the GOP-e has Romney covered.


15 posted on 03/29/2012 4:19:48 AM PDT by dforest
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To: koinonia

“My own thought is a Santorum/Gingrich ticket at a brokered convention.”

I agree. I am concerned it won’t reach at brokered state though.


16 posted on 03/29/2012 5:22:28 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: koinonia; SatinDoll
Strange you so easily are swayed by an old and regretted observation tha is constantly used by the media and some people on FR to flog this candidate

.... that in no way...from then on.... reflects his years of passionate defense of the unborn while in the Senate....

...and his many years ongoing defense still.

Just how strongly were you in his court in the first place.

Just asking....

..ps, Satin Doll has been vehemently against him from the git go.

17 posted on 03/29/2012 5:49:28 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: SatinDoll

Well how strategically do you THINK Newt Gingrich will get the nomination? huh..might it involve strategically voting for Santorum in some instances? Let’s face it a “new media” strategy at convention to convince Romney delegates to support Newt on the first ballot isn’t going to do it, and if Romney gets 1100+ it’s over. So tell me, how do you propose that Gingrich wins without at least informally allying with Santorum..


18 posted on 03/29/2012 8:15:34 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Lucas McCain

As the next person who posted states: Does that mean that you want Mitt Romney given the choice between he and Rick Santorum?


19 posted on 03/29/2012 8:19:33 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Guenevere

Really, I just love God, my Church, my country, and the unborn, and I definitely want a President who will defend these things. We need to end the “Obamanation”. Santorum is the only one left who fits the bill and has a remote chance. Obviously none of the candidates will ever be “perfect”.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 11:01:23 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: JSDude1

I’m not even thinking about who gets the nomination. That decision, hopefully, will be made at the convention.

The MSM and Republican establishment have made it obvious they do not want the Capital’s business to change as they continue to feed on the corpse of Uncle Sam, and as Gingrich had said Washington doesn’t work and he intends to change it, they will do everything possible to prevent his nomination even to the extent of blocking him speaking out.

I do research on the candidates and compare their past performances with what they’re claiming they will do this time around if in office. So it isn’t that I ‘like’ someone; it is that I know only one candidate has ever actually changed government. We’re choosing a political executive leader here, not a preacher.

Santorum and Gingrich should both stay in the race and try to prevent Romney from getting all available delegates. They’ve already proven Romney has difficulty in getting half or more of the “hard delegates” in each primary so far. Romney’s hard delegate count in 453 vs. 624 for everyone else (uncommitted, Santorum, Gingrich, Paul, etc.). See: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/

I have been warned not to bring up the eligibility issue concerning one of the conservative candidates. If you want to look that up I suggest you google it.

Santorum is NOT friendly towards Gingrich and has, at times, been unnecessarily hostile to his former mentor. The idea they will join forces is ludicrous as Santorum will not agree to it.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 11:14:44 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: koinonia; humblegunner
Now there is a cutting edge, Blog pimping, statistics hack job for you. Making claims this extravagant without a solid survey backing it is pure spin.

But nice graphics though.

22 posted on 03/29/2012 11:25:28 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...


Santorum for President ping. Let me know if you want on or off the list.

Like Rick on Face Book.

Top 10 Reasons why Conservatives should support Santorum

16 Reasons Why Mitt Romney Would Be a Really, Really Bad President
23 posted on 03/29/2012 12:39:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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To: koinonia
Agreed. But I think that is a key for the GOP not going with Romney. He won’t take the purple states.

Worse, I really think Romney will put some of the South in play for Obama, particularly if there's a strong 3rd party contender which there is almost sure to be.
24 posted on 03/29/2012 12:43:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m a Santorum guy and won’t be voting for Romney under any circumstances. I haven’t forgotten what an arrogant ass he is.

That is my position as well. Slick Willard will never get a vote out of me.
25 posted on 03/29/2012 12:45:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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To: JSDude1

Absolutely, I would prefer Romney to Santorum. Neither of them are worthy to shine Newt’s shoes, but at least I’d bet Romney knows how.

Santorum hasn’t demonstrated an ability to run anything except a election campaign. Precisely the same qualifications as the current “president.”


26 posted on 03/29/2012 2:34:00 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (Santorum sucks)
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To: Antoninus
Romney has some difficult states coming up soon in May, and so ? what if ? Rick wins big in May and Jun and actually over takes Romney in the Delegates ? then ? Romney should be the one who should drop out then because Rick will have more delegates.
Remember ? The media is allocating delegates to Romney that he has not have , yet.
27 posted on 03/30/2012 12:22:00 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Rick Santorum will over take Mitt Romney in May and June in the delegate math,, so by the end of June, Mitt Romney should be the one who should drop out of the race.

28 posted on 03/30/2012 12:23:33 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
But nice graphis though.

Thanks for the compliment :-) Actually, I just cut and paste from the web page - I could never take credit for the work (see the link at the top). At any rate, I agree that statistics can always be massaged to suit anyone's point of view; but the truth is that Paul, Santorum and Gingrich have up to now been dividing the conservative majority which has allowed Romney to slither out in front. He looks invincible, but if we look at it as Romney vs. conservatives he is more than 2 million votes behind.

29 posted on 03/30/2012 12:57:52 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: American Constitutionalist; Antoninus

Also, it should not be forgotten that in all likelihood Santorum took Missouri which is a winner-take-all state and that in Louisiana, where he crushed Romney, there are another 20 delegates to be offered at the convention. That’s 78 delegates which would potentially put Santorum at the 350 mark. With Gingrich’s campaign cut backs and the fact that he can’t get the 1144 votes, drop out or not (and “not” seems to be the order of the day), people are aware that the only two going into the convention with a chance of getting the 1144 are Romney and Santorum. So the choice is fairly clear.


30 posted on 03/30/2012 1:08:11 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: SatinDoll; Guenevere

Just a follow up on my comment above, I think we do well do underscore that while Santorum may not be perfect (and, let’s face it, none of the candidates are) and he may have faltered on this minor issue in his campaign, nonetheless, that doesn’t change the fact that he is the only conservative candidate left that could potentially keep Romney from getting the 1144. He is passionately pro-life, pro-family, pro-made-in-America, pro-religious freedom. He is and will be STRONG on the points that count as President, and so I will not hesitate to vote for him.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 1:40:28 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia

There are other reasons not to vote for him. You haven’t done the research necessary to prenent you from making an OMG!


32 posted on 03/30/2012 1:56:33 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: koinonia

Bless you!


33 posted on 03/30/2012 6:14:01 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: All; koinonia

“However, the biggest difference between Romney and Obama is on the other side of the ledger: 53 percent of Americans hold favorable views of the president; for Romney, that number slides to 34 percent. Positive ratings of Obama steadily improved over the course of his fight for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination — something not evident in Romney’s ratings this time around, or last.”

more http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-far-behind-obama-on-test-of-basic-popularity/2012/03/27/gIQA4WOSfS_story.html

The GOP elites, who endorsed, or praised Romney, aren’t as smart as they though they were.

Let’s hope voters wake up, and vote for the best candidate in the primaries - Santorum - and not the candidate they mistakingly THINK can win (Romney).


34 posted on 03/30/2012 10:40:01 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

One thing is for sure, the “elite” on any side of the fence don’t want Santorum. He’s not a socialist, one world government insider with the whole population control agenda. I think the elite let the primaries run a bit to allow the impression that there is a real race, but in the end - humanly speaking - they always intended to block out Santorum and they have decided now is the time to come out of the closet and endorse their choice and try to shut him down. They control the money and the media. Even if people wake up on the grassroots level and Santorum’s momentum picks up, they will do anything to try to stop him - money, media, even dirty pool. But nothing is impossible with God!


35 posted on 03/30/2012 10:47:56 AM PDT by koinonia
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To: koinonia

“But nothing is impossible with God!”

Absolutely; hence my tagline. We must keep praying for good leaders, and so the majority of SCOTUS rules that Obamacare is unconstitutional. Today is a big day, as they are going over the arguments, and make their first vote.


36 posted on 03/30/2012 11:14:01 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Happy Rain

Mitt needs Newt so his people can claim to be Newt people so they can smear Santorum without getting Romney’s hands dirty. If these guys would just admit they would rather have Mitt win the nomination than Santorum they wouldn’t be a bunch of mean-spireted hypocrites cuz the fact is-a hit on Rick is a kiss on Mitt.

Talking about Newt supporters here? Name names.


37 posted on 03/30/2012 11:23:36 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Happy Rain

“(there are many here)”

Name names.


38 posted on 03/30/2012 11:25:39 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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