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Mich. militia members cleared of charges that accused them of plotting war against government
The Washington Post ^ | March 27th 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/28/2012 2:59:59 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

DETROIT — A federal judge on Tuesday gutted the government’s case against seven members of a Michigan militia, dismissing the most serious charges in an extraordinary defeat for federal authorities who insisted they had captured homegrown rural extremists poised for war.

U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said the members’ expressed hatred of law enforcement didn’t amount to a conspiracy to rebel against the government. The FBI had secretly planted an informant and an FBI agent inside the Hutaree militia starting in 2008 to collect hours of anti-government audio and video that became the cornerstone of the case.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; donttreadonme; hutaree; hutareemilitia; liberty; militia
I notice the MSM has been fairly quiet about this. Anyone know if anyone's Constitutional Rights were violated by the ObamaNazis on this one?
1 posted on 03/28/2012 3:00:03 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

whenever one uses the term malitia and obama’s justice department in the same sentence one can assume there if a constitutional violation involved.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 3:18:09 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mouton
"whenever one uses the term malitia and obama’s justice department in the same sentence one can assume there if a constitutional violation involved."

Good Point. I'll remember that.

3 posted on 03/28/2012 3:19:26 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Consatatuutionn????

WHAAAT CONSSTATUTIONN???

WE DONN’ NEEED NO STEEENKING CONSTATUTION!!!


4 posted on 03/28/2012 3:55:36 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Anyone know if anyone's Constitutional Rights were violated by the ObamaNazis on this one?

Having failed at this, the Obama regime is now on to prosecuting one of the real enemies of the State; Gibson Guitar.

5 posted on 03/28/2012 4:36:02 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Flintlock

Bwahahahahahahaha! The anti-Free America libs take one in the a**. Great morning. Keep up the fight aganst these asshat, moonbat anti-freedom libs.


6 posted on 03/28/2012 4:36:11 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Mad Dawgg
U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said the members’ expressed hatred of law enforcement didn’t amount to a conspiracy to rebel against the government.
Surprise, surprise.
Roberts, Victoria A.
Nominated by William J. Clinton on July 31, 1997, received commission on June 29, 1998.
The joke's on you Eric Holder.
'Your own kind' turned on you and looked to that Constitution thingy.

BTW Eric, glad to see we're still using Sedition as a Federal Charge.
That will come in handy in the future. Hope YOU and Barry remember that (snicker, snicker).

7 posted on 03/28/2012 4:48:21 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The trial, which began Feb. 13, will resume Thursday with only a few gun charges remaining against militia leader David Stone and son Joshua Stone, both from Lenawee County, Mich.
They have been in custody without bond for two years.

Sounds more like Soviet Russia than the US to me.

8 posted on 03/28/2012 4:52:26 AM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: Mouton

obumo and holder should be pursuing the real terrorist groups like the noi-nbp-naacp. Oh wait those are there people, I forgot.

I was glad to see those militia members acquitted, based on the pre-fabricated facts of the case. I did not know that saying “Welcome To The Revolution” was a crime. I wonder if they will arrest Gary Busey for saying the same in the movie titled “Under Seige?”

Time to vote the butt klown out of the oval muslim decorated office.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 5:17:55 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

At this point in time, It is not what is said, but who says it that is the crime. It is not what one does that is the crime, but who one does it to [as Zimmerman has learned the hard way]. The deciding factor whether or not one commits a crime depends if one is one of Holder’s ,and obama’s people or not. Again Zimmerman comes to mind. He is a light complected Jewish Pureto Rican who the media was able to paint as White so that the Hispanic Activists groups such as La Raza would not touch him, thereby leaving him to fend for himself.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 5:36:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mad Dawgg

They have served their purpose. The arrest was prosecuted not to protect the People— Nor the Nation -but to send a message to the masses. These citizens have served their purpose. Message sent— end of script.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 5:37:29 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Other than the ones that were arrested on trumpted uped charges, no. Don’t expect the media to be overjoyed about their release.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 5:39:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mad Dawgg

If they were Islamic or black superiority the media would TRUMPET this news!


13 posted on 03/28/2012 5:52:15 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: 6SJ7
"Having failed at this, the Obama regime is now on to prosecuting one of the real enemies of the State; Gibson Guitar."

heheheh I am stealing that one! Just so you know!

14 posted on 03/28/2012 6:14:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

First victory in the “cold” civil war?


15 posted on 03/28/2012 6:24:04 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I am still amazed by the number of people we meet here who, upon learning my wife is from Michigan, approach her and ask “can you hook me up with the Militia?”


16 posted on 03/28/2012 6:30:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
'I'm still amazed by the number of people we meet here who, upon learning my wife is from Michigan, approach her and ask “can you hook me up with the Militia?”'

There are people in my area who looked at these Militia's "Web Postings" and shake their head in wonderment. They would never "advertise" their preparations... even issues as benign as storing food for emergencies.

17 posted on 03/28/2012 6:36:10 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Yes, I remember the Miami Florida media BREATHLESSLY reporting this story...and EMPHASIZING that these were WHITE PEOPLE.

Funny they focused on RACE in that case, eh?


18 posted on 03/28/2012 6:50:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mad Dawgg

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/scar_my_tattered_body_no_more_with_your_punishing.php


19 posted on 03/28/2012 7:12:09 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Flintlock

And according to Holder in a speech in Chicago recently, “due process” does not necessarily mean a trial before a judge. The President can give you all the process that is due to you by reviewing your file.


20 posted on 03/28/2012 8:04:26 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: Mad Dawg; TexasSecede79366
Something that should be carefully noted and hopefully remembered, concerns the use of agents provocateurs. Using English it would be provacators. Two men, one Murray and another Haug were "embedded" with the Hutaree. One got $31,000, I wonder how he spent it?

More to the point, is that some persons may foolishly listen to a plant and go along with some potentially criminal enterprise. If the provocator was not there, they may not have thought of what the agent suggested. Mention is of Soviet Russia. It was in Russia that the tactic of provocation was widely used pre communism. It was to Siberia the unfortunates that were entrapped were sent. The communists became no slouches in this regard when they got power. Nor are the British police innocent in this business.

It has been jokingly suggested that so called "white supremicist" groups, have more FBI plants than actual members. What I am trying to say is that people have to beware of the stranger. Two years waiting time in custody, a sentence in itself.

21 posted on 03/28/2012 10:05:45 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: TexasSecede79366
Sounds more like Soviet Russia than the US to me.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 11:38:49 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: cripplecreek

River Rasin basin ping.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 11:45:29 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; LucyT

SO THE HUTEREE NINE ARE COMPLETELY DISCHARGED !!!!

Thats great News. Where is the press ??

Holder should be impeached over this.

The truth is that an FBI Obama cadre tried to get the Hutaree to engage in a fire fight. It didn’t happen, thanks to the regular Michigan Militia who warned the Hutaree.

Earlier FR threads:

1)

Timing on Hutaree Raid Troubling

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2483015/posts

2)

Court official disputes prosecutors on Hutaree release conditions

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2509402/posts

3)

Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at ... Oath Keepers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2483749/posts

4)

Who Is David Brian Stone, Leader Of The Hutaree Militia?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2482960/posts


24 posted on 03/28/2012 12:02:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Mad Dawgg

That’s typical of the MSM. The accusation goes on the front page and the retraction gets buried in the back of the classified section.


25 posted on 03/28/2012 12:08:29 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Travis McGee

CWII pingworthy?


26 posted on 03/28/2012 12:20:53 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Peter Libra

___ Hardly any different than the Randy Weaver case a couple decades ago——the biggest mouth in the club meetings was the FBI snitch. Wonder how this snitch is sleeping?


27 posted on 03/28/2012 2:02:43 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Peter Libra
Two years waiting time in custody, a sentence in itself.
Exactly the point made by the Feds. Even if you win you lose. From the little I've read about this if the Feds would have RICO'd them,they'd have nailed 'em.
28 posted on 03/28/2012 4:03:02 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: TexasSecede79366; cherokee1; Mad Dawg
FWIW.

I got a surprise on listening to our neigbours radio station yesterday. Mentioning the withdrawal of a guilty plea of an American local resident in court. This for his October last appearance in an Upper Michigan court.

I was able to get more details from the on-line Escanaba Daily Press. He is a 65 year old man,who is a builder around the Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan area. It is said he conveyed 4000 1bs of potential explosive material down the highway to Dafter, Michigan. He stored it in a person`s shed. The person is said to have informed authorities. (boys oh boys).

I can hardly think of a more tranquil enviroment that is the old highway passing by Dafter. Long since bypassed by the mammoth I 75 Interstate. Some talk of a terrible sentence that could be ten years. (Do not see that though). I do pray for the gentleman`s sake he can talk a good account. His lawyer already laying the basis for his defence. Trial is next month.

29 posted on 04/02/2012 9:21:12 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
Further to my post. I had been a little hasty in my FWIW.

An informant wearing a wire..... turned him in.

30 posted on 04/02/2012 9:32:56 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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