Shirley CNN's not fibbing to us ? ?
Posted on 03/27/2012 11:09:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Most Americans don't want the Supreme Court to completely overturn the landmark yet controversial 2010 federal health care reform law...a CNN/ORC International poll also indicates that while the two year old law is growing in popularity, especially among independent voters...
According to the poll, 43% of Americans approve of the law, up five points from last November, with 50% saying they disapprove, down six points from last autumn...
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
The health insurance mandate splits the public right down the middle, with a bare 51% majority of those questioned saying that they oppose it and 47% favoring the provision.
Here is a great part, which shows how lame this poll is...:
The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International Saturday and Sunday, with 1,014 adults nationwide questioned by telephone.
LOL. And it claims to have a 3% margin of error.
Here is a link to the "internals":
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/03/26/rel3b.pdf
CNN does not appear to be releasing the INTERNALS OF THE POLLED INDIVIDUALS!
That is, how many Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Independents were questioned!
saw a Den congressman on TV , he said if it gets overturned they will take to the streets , streets are getting pretty crowded
Shirley CNN's not fibbing to us ? ?
“The survey indicates that 23% want the Supreme Court to leave the current law as is, with 43% saying some provisions should be overturned, and three in ten saying the justices should overturn the entire measure.”
is there a reason why they did not specifically spell out that 30% want the entire measure overturned?? (versus posting numerically that 23% want the law as is)....LOL at the criminal liberal media...
Clinton News Network in conjunction with Clinton’s very own best friend Vinod Gupta’s Opinion Research Corp, and WE are supposed to believe the “results”!?
Not here, and I’m sure FReepers everywhere are aware this is coordinated DNC/CNN/ORC BS.
I’m from England and now an American my family are still over there and trust me at every chance I get I tell people how bad this health care and how bad it is in England.
As for them taking to the streets, really , well they have the race pimps out there, the occupy flea wearers are waiting for order so that must mean the unions are now waiting to go.
Stop calling me Shirley and yes..they are. I loved Airplane!
In lib-speak, Americans are split down the middle. Of course, if the numbers were reversed, then Americans would be overwhelming in their support.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/52051ec56f/airplane-oh-stewardess-i-speak-jive-from-dirttron
I saw a news report from CNN that quoted this poll...I cracked up. Had to go find it myself on the ‘net.
Garbage news...just garbage.
“And it claims to have a 3% margin of error. “
They get that from statistics. The reciprocal of the square of the sample size= margin.
1/(sqrt(1014))= .0314 or 3.1%.
CNN: A CNN poll of White House residents show that 75% believe that the Supreme Court should not overturn the law, while 25% believe that they should “Just get over it, and appoint me Supreme Ruler and get it over with.”
I wonder if the dems set this thing up to fail before the election? Maybe that was why they were so anxious to pass it “so they could find out what’s in it”? They predicted the timing of the appeals as they wound there way up to the supreme court.
Now the dem constituencies’ central issue is back on the front burner. Now they have a red flag to rally ‘round.
Was in a Waiting Room earlier and it had on Klintoon News network and the interviewer and interviewee both were visibly sad about the prospects staring at them.
“Do you speak jive? LOL”
I had the lasagna.
The key word is "completely."
Looks like I picked a bad day to quit amphetamines!! ;-)
“Most don’t want...completely overturned”? How much is ‘most’? Did they actually ask that question, or are they infering that answer from the fact that 5% more approve of the law than they did the last time the poll was taken? Since 50% still disapprove, that doesn’t even follow. And how much of the law do these ‘most’ want overturned and which provisions do they want kept? Even without looking at the internals, this spin piece is a joke.
If only I could opt out of Obamacare as easily as I was disqualified from a poll about it...
“Most don’t want...completely overturned”? = somewhere north of 50% of cretins want Junior to continue getting coverage “for free” until age 26.
which provisions do they want kept?”
“They” want those provisions kept that they like or see as being of benefit to them. If it doesn’t benefit them, then you obviously don’t need it either.
OK, I'm not a statistician and I presume you are....but that still doesn't sound right. That would mean a sample of 1000 would have a margin of error of 1/10,000th of one percent (1/1,000,000)? I've seen polls with sample sizes larger than that, showing margins of error between 1 and 2 percent.
But I don't pretend to be an expert. I'd be interested in seeing where I'm wrong.
Hank
What he’s saying is take the square root of 1000, 31.6227766, and then take the reciprocal.
1/31.6227766 to get 0.316227766 or 3.2%.
They haven’t figured out that we’ve broke the code.
Here’s a question: Do you personally know anyone who thinks ObamaCare is a good idea?
One of the obvious things you quickly learn about the Left, is that they never want someone with knowledge on a given subject to be involved in discussions to make things better.
What they want is for their academics to be the driving force in any fix. And that’s why they never actually fix anything. They merely screw it up beyond belief.
Reports out of the ObamaCare committees were that no physicians or medical industry people were involved in it’s development.
So people conducting a poll that think you shouldn’t be able to express your opinion, conform to the Left’s views and in particular Obama’s.
No, the margin for n=1000 is 3.16.
Not a statistician, but I use statistics a lot. If you had a group made up of subgroups and you are combining them, margins can be different. Also, there are different ways to get that number, but the one I showed is basic.
It does seem bogus to poll 1000 people and declare that it represents 300,000,000 people to 3%, but that’s the math.
I, too, am not a statistician but have to work with stats routinely. The concept of a “margin of error” being the inverse of(sqrtX) makes “margin of error” a statistical construct rather than an indication of the real potential for the estimate to be incorrect. The underlying thing being measured is one of the factors influencing true likelihood of the estimate being incorrect. For example, if I am surveying 1000 people regarding their eye color or sex, I will get a more estimate than if I am asking them whether Istanbul has a larger population than Athens or if their spouse trusts the employee at the checkout counter. Some things are inherently more difficult to estimate, are complex in detail, or are subject to change. A more professional measurement of the accuracy of an estimate of an attitude such as this is reliability, measured in several ways, or validity, much more difficult to establish and also measured in a variety of ways.
So 73% of Adults want ALL or PART of the overturned, even among the biased CNN sample?
That is LOL funny.
If 73% of SCOTUS thinks that way, its a good day.
Only if the 1000 are truly “random.” In most opinion polls, they are not.
Yeah, I dont want it ALL overturned...
just the mandate, the taxes, the payroll ad-on tax, the medicare tax add-on, the medicaid forced expansion that will add billions in costs, the regs on pre-existing conditions coverage, the 54 bureacracies, the medicare cuts, the added regulations on doctor-owned hospitals, the coverage of kids up to 26 on employer insurance, the Death Panel coverage rules, the forced exchanges, the HHS rule-making authority, coverage for illegal aliens,
... but they are funding a rural hospital on an indian reservation with a grant for $1.1m .... they can keep that part. LOL.
The Commie News Network got their feed mixed up with Comedy Central’s again.
I do. They like obamacare because they look upon obama as a god. By the way, I no longer speak to any of these people.
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