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Posted on 03/24/2012 4:27:07 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
ORLANDO - An attorney representing George Zimmerman is speaking out, saying his client is not a racist, and that he acted in self-defense the night Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
Craig Sonner spoke with FOX 35 in Orlando. He said he did not know George Zimmerman's location. He said due to death threats, he has been advising Zimmerman to avoid going out in public.
He referred to a flier saying Zimmerman was "Wanted dead or alive."
"I have advised him to stay out the public eye as much as he can," Sonner said.
Sonner also gave more details about injuries Zimmerman sustained that night.
"He did suffer a broken nose, and he has an injury to the back of his head which should have required stitches. I think he was delayed in getting to the doctor and having stitches put in. But he did sustain injuries to his head," Sonner said.
Sonner said portrayals of his client as a racist are not accurate. As an example, he cited Zimmerman's participation in fundraisers for an African-American church in the Orlando area.
Sonner said Zimmerman was under "a lot of stress."
"He's very concerned about the grave situation he's in. There's a young man who is now deceased in this situation, he's very concerned about that," Sonner said.
Don't understand the question. What am I asserting that you want a cite for?
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Those hand signals are gang signs. People in the know can tell you which gang he is in.
Geraldo may be a nut in almost every way, but he was right about the hoodie. That is part of the gang uniform.
In the late 60’s and 70’s black would wear hoodies to show they were part of “The Black Klan”. It was the black version of the KKK.
I guess not everyone is pleased with the Constitution or the Rule of Law.
Bump.
It's not. A person standing ground and using force also has to be acting in reasonable apprehension.
-- IF (and it's a big if) a jury finds that Zimmerman, in toto, acted unreasonably in confronting Martin, does the current Florida law protect him once he started getting his ass kicked? --
The law is well aware of situations wehre the tables turn, and a person who "started it," then decides to retreat, is not held to be acting unreasonably if he later defends himself against an attack. The "it" in "who started it" doesn't necessarily refer to the entire sequence of events.
If Zimmerman had broken off his chase, and was returning to his truck, and Martin jumped him, then Martin started it. Martin is liable, and Zimmerman 1) isn't in a "stand your ground" situation at all; 2)Martin has a right to use force to defend himself. That section of Restatement does a good job of describing what is "reasonable" as far as apprehending a risk of serious injury; and reasonable apprehension of serious injury justifes the use of deadly force.
He may be owed them, but you can bet that he will never get them.
“both states voting for Obama are foregone conclusions.”
Both states are in horrible shape financially, and it has trickled to the bottom at this point; there is little reason for anyone of any color in NY or NJ to vote for Obama. Our unemployment is worse than many areas, our taxes are higher; what will Obama promise this time? The decline hasn’t been more noticeable anywhere, with the possible exception of California. Governor Christie won in NJ one year after the state voted for Obama; we’ve learned quickly. Obama will be forced to fight for all 50 states.
The situation of jumping in to a bar fight will be viewed with an eye to why the person entered the fray. If the reason is to break it up, and the person breaking it up becomes a target of force, then there is a right to use self-defense.
A police officer who is breaking up a fight can obtain a right to shoot, depending on the actions of the fighters.
But, if the person entering the fray is intending further escalation, he loses the right of self defense.
How can I prove that to liberal, near brain dead Obama voters?
He who transits from speech to physical attack is in the wrong, no matter WHAT the speech is. Evidence is that Martin initiated the physicality. “Being pissed-off” is not grounds for assault.
That is why the artist protrayed Obama burning it. The Constitution & Rule of Law became irrelevant when affirmative action became legal; they are selectively applied. In the end, the words have meaning to a steadily declining number of people anyway (and that was done deliberately in the education system).
“it’s NEVER been the law that you can use deadly force in a fight where you are a willing participant
“Clearly, you can’t use deadly force in a fight you provoke and then plead self-defense. I think that’s true everywhere, whether or not there is a “stand your ground” law.”
“it’s NEVER been the law that you can use deadly force in a fight where you are a willing participant
“Clearly, you can’t use deadly force in a fight you provoke and then plead self-defense. I think that’s true everywhere, whether or not there is a “stand your ground” law.”
What are you talking about? Florida only has a law specifically stating about duties to not retreat because they were dumb enough to have one that said a person had a duty to retreat in the first place. Only to some dumb a dirt idiot politician would a person be required to flee a bad guy and not the other way around.
We went past 1984 before 1984, you just don't know it.
I think I’m citing the common law as it pertains to homicide.
I agree about the idiot politicians and the need for some type of stand your ground protection. I just want to understand how far the Florida law goes to change the common law.
Your points may have some validity. What they don’t have is anything to do with the Zimmerman shooting. Obammie may have trouble in this election (I profoundly hope so.) He will not have any more trouble because of the Zimmerman shooting and his stupid comments about it. I believe he will have less trouble.
“What they don’t have is anything to do with the Zimmerman shooting.”
When whites see large numbers of black males milling about protesting without facts, it never bodes well for any Democrat; Obama wants this (at least the footage of “million hoodie marches” to go away. “White guilt” died in November 2008, and has been replaced by “white apathy” and “white rage”.
Florida doesn’t subscribe to common law. You have to research the appropriate statutes.
The article I read referred to Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic”.
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