Posted on 03/23/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by red flanker
Just moments ago on the Sean Hannity radio show, GOP candidate and RINO Rick Santorum took it upon himself to convict George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case. He said, and I’m paraphrasing slightly:
It was a heinous crime and he did a despicable, unjustifiable thing and the Sanford police should have reacted to that immediately.
Again, I am paraphrasing a little as I did not have a recorder running to get his exact words, but that was essentially his statement.
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Here is what Newt ACTUALLY said on CNN last night:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/03/23/piers-gingrich-trayvon-martin-tragedy.cnn
Please watch it and learn the truth of how he handled the question.
Thanks.
All any politician should say about this is that people are innocent until proven guilty, and the incident is under investigation. Period. Why do politicians feel the need to take a position on everything?
Proof he’s not ready for prime time.
Put a fork in Santorum. He’s done.
Newt handled Piers Morgan masterfully AND called him on it (trying to bait him) also.
Newt did on CNN last night.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/03/23/piers-gingrich-trayvon-martin-tragedy.cnn
Not quite as bad, but I acknowledged the foolishness:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2863029/posts?page=25#25
I think the media needs to stop asking candidates about this crap anyway.
If anything they should be asking Obama why he feels the need to insert himself into issues that presidents have traditionally stayed away from. After all, I can’t remember a president being so willing to get involved in issues that have little to do with them.
Newt was exactly right.
He was staying with his father and his father’s girlfriend. He had gone to the store.
No, he didn't. Newt drew the assumption that Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here, and insinuated this was a matter of Zimmerman stalking.
Whereas the open question is, did Trayvon Martin assault Zimmerman, and did Zimmerman respond with deadly force in response to that assault and had fear for his life or well-being that justified deadly force?
Newt did OK until he passed judgement on Zimmerman.
When Newt was answering Piers’ biased question about Stand Your Ground he went into details of the case. He shouldn’t have. That having been said what Newt said was far far far better than what Santorum said. To go so far as to call the incident a “crime” is ridiculous.
I just watched, thanks— he did handle it better but the Police Chief wasn’t suspended.
Gingrich did comment but then backed off by saying they don’t have all the facts and did defer to the rule of law.
I will take back jackwad but I am still not completely happy with his comment. I still love Newt but this wasn’t one of my favorite moments.
“Police Chief temporarily steps down, Prosecutor recuses himself”
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/national/032212-Trayvon-Martin-rally-in-Sanford_18744911
Gingrich wasn’t ‘fired’ as Speaker of the House and he didn’t appreciate people claiming such, I should think he owes this Police Chief an apology.
Have you never been introduced to the concept of forgiveness?
It’s not new. Anyone can try it. Some religions even require it. It is a central principle of Christianity. Just so you know.
None. All the players are already entrenched.
Same modus operandi was at play in the false story about TEA Party members (or even infiltrators in the crowd) shouting "nigger" at a couple of congressmen. Total fabrication, fiction, published as fact (using the magic word, "alleged") by the media; and as far as I know, the false narrative still lives.
A finding that Zimmerman was justified will be described as "incendiary," rather than as a good call. The media will downplay the facts as it builds its false narrative.
Krauthammer pointed out that Zimmerman has a Peruvian mother (i.e. half Hispanic.) Therefore, he is as much Hispanic as Obama is black. Al Sharpton will explain the significance of this.
Personal freedom includes personal choice. I choose not to ignore past indicators of a lack of control and disregard of commitments....but...that's just me."
What are you talking about, "forgive Obama and maybe he will repent?" Newt HAS repented, HAS found Christ, and HAS been forgiven. Make some sense, please.
So, what you're saying is that even though Newt HAS been forgiven by God, you refuse to do so. I will assume from your stance that you are not a Christian, or that you're under the impression you're the second perfect person to walk the earth who never needed redemption.
They must be secretly cursing Rick for making their job so difficult.
They must be secretly PRAISING Rick for making their job so Necessary .Job security when he is on the stump.
I could not even listen to Hannity’s little waaah waaah Trayvon is dead whine fest today.
If I was Zimmerman, I’d be suing both him and beck and every news organization at this point.
A two-time cheater, just as a Death Row inmate minutes before execution, "finds Religion".
Character is such that a willow tree never grows up to be an oak.
Deal with it.
I was married to the same person for “56” years, that still does not qualify me to throw the first stone.
Point out my claim that you aren’t allowed your choice of candidates.
So the Lord can forgive, but who is He, right? He’s not Traditional1.
I understand what you mean about “character”. A brief perusal of your posting history says so much.
Not sure what the "gotcha" is. I don't see why Santorum has to comment one way or the other about this case unless he wants to blast the Justice dept for getting involved -- then that's OK.
I barely listen to him any longer...far too emotional and frustrated. That makes him boorish and really repetitive. Rush too but not quite as bad.
Rush often gives me an interesting perspective I missed on my own.
PS, cool screen name.
Just another one of Santorum’s deeds/acts/speechs... that sounds just like Obama. But that’s okay, cause he’s *OUR* guy, right?
Or has the collective amnesia made everyone forget Obama and the Gates arrest?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2298959/posts
I take no prisoners and speak my mind (since 1964), and here on FR since 1998.
Political Correctness isn't my thing, nor is ignoring FACTS already in Evidence in regards to past performance, personal responsibility, and being "forgiving and compassionate" got this country into its sorry state, today. Think "used" or "taken advantage of", and you MIGHT get the picture.
Dream on.
This an extremely Hot potato. Both Newt and Santorum needs to handle with care. Could leave a nasty burn in the General election.
Funny thing, that, eh? Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Seem to be seeing an awful lot of that around here since the Commies made their move and put one of their own in the White Hut.
There are as many intolerant fascists in this place now as there are on the DUmp. March to my drummer or you're a "bleeding liberal", or you're "not conservative enough". Sad.
Nevertheless, I take great comfort in knowing that once this divisive SOB is kicked out of WDC our conservative brethren (mostly) will relax a little and the acrimony around here will recede a bit. But the DUmmies will always be...well, DUmmies!
I have long forgiven Newt. I am not the One Whose forgiveness counts, however. It appears that many people have. However, it also appears that most do not trust him any longer, which is not the same thing. Would you allow a forgiven child molestor to work unsupervised in a day care center?
So even though only our Lord is to judge the heart, instead you are doing so. Making yourself Lord? < /s >
I think he was simply conversing about a terrible thing that happened.
Your analogy reeks of apples versus oranges. A child molester generally has a real lingering character problem. A forgiven adulterer (like Mary Magdalene who discovered Jesus’ empty tomb) is not in the same category.
Santorum really needs to shut his beak.
I love you, but Newt said the same thing. Your running out of candidates.....lol.
So Rick was an eyewitness and has video of the whole thing?
I like Rick but he is so stupid at times.
Is he trying to make everyone else look good?
Sad.
No he wasn't. He is running for President. Candidates for President do not simply converse. And he wasn't just lamenting on something terrible. He said the local police's handling was "terrible". So he was butting into a local police matter which is irrelevant to his mission to get elected President.
But what he could have said was that the justice department has no business getting involved in a local police matter. He could have used the issue to attack liberal politicians instead of a local police dept.
Voting, ok... but you are judging Newt. That is your choice of course and shows your personality type. But it is also within Christianity the ultimate in ‘church lady’ behavior.
...Prosecutor recuses himself...
Jacksonville-based Corey replaced local prosecutor Norm Wolfinger in the case and WFTV said several sources had confirmed that police had originally recommended manslaughter charges against Zimmerman, but that Wolfinger had not acted on their advice.
This is why he would be crushed by Obama by 10%. He is totally undisciplined. I have never seen anything like it at this level and this late date.
Rick, shut your piehole. You don’t know crap about crap. At this point, go play with your Etch-A-Sketch or...just Sit-N-Spin. You are NOT ready to lead. Zero instincts.
Megalomania is a mental disorder, and Santorum is a mental case.
Yes - to be fair Gingrich suffers from this as well but there is a difference. Gingrich has been working on it and come a long way and doesn't seem to be taking the bait as often anymore. It's a shame Gingrich has not prevailed. He has a compelling powerful intellect just about unequaled in modern times by anyone I can think of. The man is brilliant. In comparison Santorum is a good man but a third rate presidential candidate. It is amazing to me he got as far as he did.
I am aFRaid that you are absolutely correct.
The story is written — all the “facts” will be presented in such a way as to support the narrative already presented.
Which leads up to: how does Obama profit by pissing off Florida and putting it in the GOP column? Painting himself into a real corner here.
There aren't enough Amish in the Sunshine State to bring those 29EVs back to him on their own. Gonna come down to Ohio again in a replay of '04...
Mary Magdalene was not a forgiven adulterer. She had devils cast out of her.(Lk.8:2)
Maybe Rick needs to hold a beer summit.
Isn’t Ricky supposedly an attorney?
thanks...it is actually my real name.
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