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Santorum Suggests Obama Preferable to "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney.
latimes.com ^ | March 22, 2012 | Michael A. Memoli

Posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by true believer forever

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To: NYCslicker
"But I would have you ask yourself this: Do you really truly think that a protest vote of staying home and not voting for Romney on election day is really truly better for the country than going in there and voting against Obama? "

That is exactly what will happen when Romney is nominated. Conservatives will stay home in droves. I really don't know what independents will do, but trust me- Romney cannot win the general election against Obama. He inspires Zero confidence with Conservatives.

151 posted on 03/22/2012 8:00:26 PM PDT by matthew fuller (A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
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To: All
Yes Little Ricky, I agree 100% with you! I was afraid for a minute you would "brown" your nose supporting an un-worthy ESTABLISMENT-Republican... like most politicians have done in the past (I remember Huckabee kissing McCacas Ass in the last election...HORRIBLE!).

I have been saying that from the beginning: as a SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVE (Conservative in most issues with MORAL values), that I would not vote for Romney. I did not vote for McCain, I can do it again.

Romney is a PRO-HOMO candidate and I would not be surprised if the homos themselves are supporting him quietly... You might call it, a way of "sweetening" the GOP...

No, a Pro-HOMO for OHOMO... does not do it for me.


152 posted on 03/22/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Toespi

Quit being loose with the facts.

Who did you vote for in 2008? McCain? If so, you support McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, oppose the Bush Tax Cuts, closing Gitmo, Gang of 14, etc.

Santorum saw a person (McCain) who thwarted Judicial Nominations in the Senate. I think word “detest” best describes Santorum’s opinion of McCain. In a race where either McCain or Romney was going to be the nominee in 2008, Santorum did what he felt was necessary to stop McCain. MANY people here supported Romney in 2008 for only that reason alone.

Rick did not say it is better to “vote” for Obama. He was stating that there is NO difference between the major issues at stake in the election between Romney and Obama. And like Rush has said on numerous occasions, when you present voters with a clear vision and a moderate of the clear vision, the voters will choose the clear vision everytime, no matter if it’s destructive or not.

So why don’t you quit feigning “outrage”. Santorum is 100% correct.


153 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:22 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: true believer forever
Rick Santorum should be dis qualified.

This was over the top.

154 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:56 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Gene Eric

It’s true. The anti Romney vote should coalesce in case we could deprive Romney of delegates somewhere.

And I apologize for my poor grammar and not capitalizing Newt. Many times I am holding a baby working a mobile device with a finger or two. Some names get automatically capitalized, but mitt and newt don’t because they are words. I am sorry. It is not meant to be belittling or insulting.


155 posted on 03/22/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - he's our only hope for change at this point)
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To: NYCslicker
Unfortunately with his ill-chosen statement, Rick Santorum just cemented the choice for all of us: Romney or Obama.

Speak for yourself. I haven't lost my ability to think as an individual.
156 posted on 03/22/2012 8:03:36 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
For the life of me, I have no idea what to do about this.

Nor do I. Personality cults seem to serve the peculiar needs of the cult members. I support Gingrich, but have as little use for Gingrich's more idolatrous followers as I do for Santorum's or Obama's.

Politicians are always just the hired help. I'll show them respect if they do their jobs well, but that's about it.

157 posted on 03/22/2012 8:03:54 PM PDT by TChad
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To: All

This ought to be fun having the Santorum supporters defend.


158 posted on 03/22/2012 8:04:30 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: GOPsterinMA
Well, now there's two GOP POTUS candidates I'll never vote for.

So you wouldn't support Romney against Obama. So when Santorum might agree with you, it causes you not to want to vote for him.

There is something wrong with the Santorum haters on this site.

159 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:23 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: true believer forever

GTFO, Rick.


160 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:23 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Abby4116
And if he thinks that Obama is preferable to Romney, he is showing that he only cares about himself.

First off, he didn't say that. Read the full quote. He said that if voters are given a choice between a phoney moderate squish and a real Leftist, they will pic the real thing. As for what Romney may or may not do as POTUS, how does anyone know? It is very obvious that he has NO interest in championing Conservatism. Just look at the disdain he has for us in this campaign. He can't even bring himself to talk the talk with any sincerity.

161 posted on 03/22/2012 8:05:50 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Glad someone else gets it.


162 posted on 03/22/2012 8:06:39 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Oh I wasn’t referring to anything to do with thinking.

I was just referring to the only two candidates that are left standing now that Santorum ticked off a significant number of people that support him.


163 posted on 03/22/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: delapaz
Would you rather have a known enemy or a backstabbing “friend”?

backstabbing friend.

164 posted on 03/22/2012 8:08:13 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Cato in PA
Romney is wrong on a lot of issues. He believes too much in some social welfare programs and isn't a social conservative. However, I also think the guy still believes in the free market when it comes to getting an economy to produce, and he does care about too much spending. Obama is a central planning statist to his core, and has never seen a spending program he didn't like.

It is possible that Romney will be as bad as Obama, but I see no chance that he'll be worse, and a pretty good chance that he'll be at least somewhat better. At the minimum, he'll be much better on SCOTUS picks, and with the Court split 5-4, that is a critical issue moving forward.

165 posted on 03/22/2012 8:08:13 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: dvan

I don’t resemble that remark any more than Romney resembles a conservative.


166 posted on 03/22/2012 8:08:32 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: The Duke

In the big picture. There is no way the incubus Obama, the succubus named Valerie Jarrett and their merry band of communist czars can have another 4 yrs to run amok.


167 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:00 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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To: Inspectorette

Ugh, so it’s the hair or the ears...


168 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:00 PM PDT by hope
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To: American Constitutionalist

Good to see, someone else gets it.


169 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:40 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

I agree.

He’s making the same point that people here have been making. You can’t just say, “I’m not Barak Obama” You have to give people a clear alternative to his ideology.

You have to give people a reason to vote for you. Romney’s negative ads alone won’t be enough in the general election, when Obama can outspend him 2 to 1.


170 posted on 03/22/2012 8:09:40 PM PDT by guinnessman
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To: wk4bush2004
"many conservatives across the nation will be so discouraged and stay home."

Only if 0bama cancels the election.

171 posted on 03/22/2012 8:10:06 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Girlene
The issue is that if this comes down to Obammy vs Mittens. You can bet your last dollar that we will hear it again and again in commercial.

Even Santorum said I was a better Candidate than Mittens it wont matter the reason. It is about betting the Rep candidate so bad that it depresses the turnout and threatens the down ticket votes.

Santorum has just handed Obammy a freebie.

172 posted on 03/22/2012 8:12:46 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Girlene
The issue is that if this comes down to Obammy vs Mittens. You can bet your last dollar that we will hear it again and again in commercial.

Even Santorum said I was a better Candidate than Mittens it wont matter the reason. It is about betting the Rep candidate so bad that it depresses the turnout and threatens the down ticket votes.

Santorum has just handed Obammy a freebie.

173 posted on 03/22/2012 8:12:54 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Lazlo in PA
Even you folks here feigning “outrage” at Santorum finally saying out loud what we all have been saying here privately know he is right. Romney is a one way ticket to catastrophic failure in November.

Well this person of the "you people" you talk about, has always said, some of us will have the honor of fighting against Obama with our chosen candidate, and others will only have the honor of fighting against Obama to help save our country.

I don't know what YOU talk about in private, but You need to get a grip, stop assigning motives to people you don't know or even know about. And prepare yourself to support the nominee, whoever it is. Do you ever speak to a Newt supporter in anything but derisive and disrespectful terms? don't talk to me that way again.

174 posted on 03/22/2012 8:13:11 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: true believer forever

santorum is right, but he shouldn’t have said it while campaigning to be president. I rather a known enemy than a false friend


175 posted on 03/22/2012 8:13:19 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: American Constitutionalist
You must be part of the 1% who can reinterpret Rick's inner thoughts. Were you ever a guest on Coast to Coast? Is your last name Carney?

Please.

It's over, Ricky.

176 posted on 03/22/2012 8:14:06 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: true believer forever
Santorum Suggests Obama Preferable to "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney.

Sounds like he (or some staffer) has been browsing the FR forums. There's been a LOT of that posted all over this place lately.

177 posted on 03/22/2012 8:14:17 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NYCslicker

“As long as there was any chance that anyone but Romney could possibly go up against Obama, I supported anyone but Romney. But anything, even Romney, is better than Obama in my opinion. I don’t know how anyone could let Obama win by not voting for the Republican nominee. I mean, I hate Romney, but Romney did go through the process and he is going to be the nominee. The alternative is much, much worse. And Conservatives that can let Obama waltz back into the White House, I almost understand them, but I can’t really understand them.”

I agree completely. Santorum is unhinged. He needs to get out, and take Newt with him. At this point, they’re simply weakening Romney and, much as I dislike HIM, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE OBAMA WIN. **THAT** would be catastrophic. Whatever else he is or isn’t, I don’t think Romney is out to destroy the country the way Obama is, and there’s some hope the right can push him into line. Certainly, whoever he would nominate for the Supreme Court would be better than whatever gutter-dwelling loser Obama might come up with.

At a certain point, you have to just say.. “Okay. The elites won. What do I do NOW...?!” and the right answer is “do whatever you CAN to defeat that disaster of a President who’s in office right now.”


178 posted on 03/22/2012 8:14:22 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: The Duke
I think Romney will mold himself to the new reality, and work out just fine.

What if the "New Reality" that Mitt molds himself too is that we are living in a European style Socialism? That should really turn things around. BTW, what evidence do you have that Romney even has an inkling of the problems facing the country? Even GOPe supporters of him say openly that he is just uncomfortably mouthing things he thinks Conservative want to hear because he is "he came late to Conservatism in his life".

179 posted on 03/22/2012 8:15:21 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: true believer forever

Santorum’s jumped the shark.


180 posted on 03/22/2012 8:15:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Lazlo in PA

There are so many hypocrites on this thread.

People here are ripping Santorum for saying the same thing that most freepers say.

It’s ridiculous.


181 posted on 03/22/2012 8:15:43 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: dfwgator
a second Obama term will unite Conservatives like never before. United, he can never break us

Fool. If a first obama term didn't "unite us", which it obviously didn't, then a second obama term will just be the coup de grace for America. We're already broken, in case you haven't noticed.

182 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: funfan

The only reason to vote Romney is to sit and watch this time Democrates go on a Romney Derangement Syndrome fit and see the GOP RINOs get finished by their muslims.

The reason to vote Obama would be to completely wash out the RINO traitors from Congress and get a complete reboot for a wheel reinvention in America and the world, watching the great sorrow and wrath of God not seen since Pharoh’s feelings that all will be fine, that it was just a “fluke”.

Just watching them competing, Bernanke, Obama, Pelosi etc... with lawyers such as Fluke into double or triple fisting to the orgy of death is interesting stuck on stupid.


183 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:53 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: reaganaut

Frankly, the LDS church NEEDS Romney to be POTUS to stem the tide of people leaving and taking their money with them. They need the money to build more malls. . . . .

__________________________________________________________

When I was a little boy about 3 or 4 years old my father asked me if I did something. I told him no, I lied, I did it and he knew I did it. Dads always seem to know that kind of stuff when you are little. Anyway, my father told me that telling a lie was a really stupid thing. He said that no matter how many times I told the truth when someone caught me lying they would always think of me as a liar.

The Mormon church is baptizing a quarter million new members a year and bring more that that in as children. That add up to about 5% growth a year. There may be people leaving the Mormons but there are a lot more joining.


184 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:58 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: WPaCon

Santorum needs to get out... it’s time.


185 posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: madison10

“If Romney or Rick loses to Obama via the Gingrich-or-else-crowd, the blood of our dead USA will be on their hands.”

I hear that a lot, so I don’t let it bother me.


186 posted on 03/22/2012 8:18:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: WPaCon
I'm a Newt backer, and a Perry backer before that.

My anti-Romney stance is pretty well known here on FR, with literally 1,000’s of posts to back me up. And being from MA, I've seen Romney up close. All that being said, what Santorum said was both incorrect and disqualifies him from POTUS contention, IMO.

As far as supporting any Republican in November goes, I will not vote for Romney or Santorum, period. Obama will win this state going away.

187 posted on 03/22/2012 8:18:49 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

>> The only reason the Newt people are outraged at this comment is because it is just something else the can beat up on him for.

I like Rick. He’s never upset me. I just think his campaign is... well you know I think. Anyway, this one is good for a laugh — even for Rick’s righteous brigade :)


188 posted on 03/22/2012 8:18:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv
That’s impossible, Santorum is, and I quote, from many a topic, “a stalking horse for Romney”.

Thanks true believer forever.

Apropos of nothing, remember those monks who poured gasoline over themselves and set themselves aflame to protest the Vietnam War?

Your "thank you" was probably being snarky to me, I know, but I don't know what a stalking horse is... Yes, I am almost too stupid to live :) But I am sure am loyal (to Newt).

189 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:20 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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well you know what I think

190 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: GOPJ

So you want Romney to be the nominee?

Or what else do you think Santorum getting out will accomplish?


191 posted on 03/22/2012 8:20:39 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: NYCslicker
With the possibility of two or three SCOTUS Appointments in the next four years, not Voting for the Republican Nominee is out of the question.

Conservatives can help to influence any Romney picks, just as they derailed Bush's Harriet Meyers debacle, but Obama will not be swayed in his quest to pack the Court with his Commie Sycophants.

It isn't just the next four years, it's the next two Generations that will be influenced by a Liberal Court.

192 posted on 03/22/2012 8:20:39 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: parksstp

I am outraged everytime Rick Santorum runs his mouth. I am and have been disgusted with his crash and burn mode of campaigning, now against his own party. He is one of the most self-absorbed candidates I have ever seen.


193 posted on 03/22/2012 8:20:53 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: NYCslicker

We’re losing elections, anyway! Even when we “win,” we lose, by governing like a bunch of RINOs, instead of as conservatives. Every election cycle it’s the same thing. If social conservatives don’t set aside their principles and cast their ballot for whoever the GOP Establishment dishes up, it will be their fault the liberal wins.

Meanwhile, the issues important to those of us who are social conservatives keep getting paid lip service, at best, campaign after campaign. Sorry, can’t do it anymore. If the Republican establishment doesn’t care about what is important to me, then don’t come asking for my money or my vote.


194 posted on 03/22/2012 8:21:10 PM PDT by Catholic Iowan
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To: al_c
Santorum Suggests Obama Preferable to “Etch-A-Sketch” Romney
And apparently many here on FR agree ... those that refuse to vote for Romney in the general election if he gets the GOP nomination.

You bet I will not EVER EVER vote for Romney. I will not line up like a good little republican and vote for the chosen one, democrats do that. I will not be used anymore by the gop. We all know they lied, cheated, stole and used fox, coulter, rove,.....like the dems use cnn, abc....If I behave like they want me to, what will it be in 2016? Maybe Dennis Kucinich might want to be a republican, since it no longer the party of Reagan. Romney is sitting there smiling because he knows there are lots of people who will compromise and give him what he wants (after treated our guys like dirt.) He does not care about people, only himself. He will destroy anything and anyone in his way. He knows there will be people who say I hold my nose again; after all we can't stand obama, as he smiles.

I will vote third party or write in a candidate. I really believe if romney gets the nomination a good third party candidate will rise. They have to be better than romney.

195 posted on 03/22/2012 8:21:37 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed)
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To: parksstp
I’m sick of the hypocrisy. Reading Santorum’s quote, it’s clear what the point was: There is NO difference between Romney and Obama, and that when faced with the choice of a Socialist/Marxist and Obama-lite, people will always choose the real thing everytime.

MANY people here have said the exact same thing on numerous occasions that Romney is not an acceptable alternative to Obama. And that is what Santorum is essentially saying here. And yet, the FR attacks on Rick continue to make him look like the quote is something bad, when it is in fact the truth.

FUMR! NO ROMNEY, NO WAY!

The republican nominee, whoever it is, whoever it is, is preferable to Obama. Let's just be clear. It will break my heart, but I will do my duty. So don't call me a hypocrite, in fact, you might want to be careful about who you call a hypocrite as a general rule.

196 posted on 03/22/2012 8:22:44 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: true believer forever
Do you ever speak to a Newt supporter in anything but derisive and disrespectful terms?

Yes. The Newt supporters who are not hell bent on slamming Rick at every turn on every thread. What type of kind things did you have in mind when you started the dialog by saying "words fail"? Every time you come out and post MSM spin and Romney talking points about Rick you bet I am going to talk to you that way. We are not going to sit back like potted plants and allow this nonsense to continue unchallenged.

197 posted on 03/22/2012 8:23:11 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: WPaCon
None of us are running to be the president of the United States. What we say, is blowing off steam and speaking our convictions. As much as Newt cannot stand Romney for all of the lies Mitt has done to him, when ask, he says well I want to win but if Romney wins fair out in the process, it's his. Ron Paul is better than Obama, if a juice can is. Rick has become so sure of himself, he thinks nothing can stop him or touch him. Maybe, this will help to open voter's minds to support Newt now.
198 posted on 03/22/2012 8:24:37 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Cato in PA
Sure, Congress will listen to us just like they did on the debt ceiling. Just like they did on the Democrats’ ridiculously short-term tax cut extensions.

Boehner, McConnell, and company are already ignoring us. Do you seriously think that will change if we elect Willard Romney the open socialist, who’s ten times worse than they are? I’ve got news for you: what token opposition we get now will vanish.

Well, Mark Levin, just called out boehner and McConnell big time tonight, said they have to go... some people are finally get a sense of urgency. I mean acute urgency, and I think the Limbaugh stuff ongoing, is just one of the ticks up on the scale...

199 posted on 03/22/2012 8:25:30 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: dfwgator
Obama is a blatant socialist, which means it is easier to forment opposition to his socialist policies. Romney is stealth socialist, who will sugar-coat his socialism to force it down our throats....which makes it more likely under a Romney Administration we would become even more socialist, than even under Obama.

I don't see a public outcry against Obama compared to say George W. Bush's socialism lite. So I don't buy your premise. I think they hated Bush more. I won't vote for either Obama or Romney but there are degrees of bad and I would never willingly vote for a stronger socialist.

Conservatives screwed up and split the vote between Santorum and Gingrich. Conservatives will just need to regroup and get their act together for 2016 because 2012 is gone.

200 posted on 03/22/2012 8:25:30 PM PDT by plain talk
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