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Sarkozy stands to gain most from arrest
The Financial Times ^ | March 21, 2012 | Hugh Carnegy in Paris

Posted on 03/21/2012 9:47:14 PM PDT by Cincinna

Marine Le Pen, leader of France’s extreme right National Front, wasted no time on Wednesday in seeking political advantage from news that the suspected killer of three Jewish children, a Jewish teacher and three Muslim soldiers was a French citizen apparently linked to al-Qaeda. “It is time to wage war on these fundamentalist political religious groups who are killing our children,” she said. 

On the face of it, Ms Le Pen, who regularly attacks immigration and the influence of Islam in French society, stands to gain from what was apparently the first Islamist-motivated terrorist attack in France since 1997 – especially as it was evidently carried out by a so-called homegrown terrorist. But in political terms, president Nicolas Sarkozy may well benefit the most. “I don’t believe [Ms Le Pen] will be able to profit from this,” said Philippe Moreau-Defarge of IFRI, the French institute of international relations. “At moments like this, people turn to their government. Mr Sarkozy has always put the accent on security, his team have been tough on terrorism and the police have been very effective [in this case].” Mr Sarkozy has taken care to try to rally the country over the affair. 

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaida; france; sarkozy; terroristattack

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At this moment, more than 24 hours after the seige began, the presumed killer, Mohamed Merah, was still inside his apartment, surrounded by French riot police. Electricity and water have been cut off.


1 posted on 03/21/2012 9:47:25 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

I guess all those riots don’t count as Islamic motivated violence??


2 posted on 03/21/2012 9:55:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cincinna; afraidfortherepublic; mojo114; seenenuf; LucyT; Think free or die; DollyCali; ...

President Sarkozy, as head of state, presided over the funeral of the three murdered soldiers shot down in cold blood in the street in Montauban and Toulouse.
He rallied the French people to honor their fallen heroes, who died defending their country and the French people.
It was a somber, very moving, deeply felt tribute.
At this moment, the cowardly suspect is holed up in his rathole, surrounded by French riot police, who are determined to wait him out in this siege that has lasted more than a day.
It eerily recalls the incident of Sarko and HB, the human bomb, who took a kindergarten in Neuilly hostage, while Sarko was Mayor.
This is a man with nerves of steel, unshakeable determination and moral courage.
May God be with the French people as they fight the homegrown enemy in their midst.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 9:59:06 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: GeronL

Actually the riots cannot be compared to the cold blooded targeted killings of three French paratroopers and three Jewish children and their father.
Be very careful about making an amalgam of incidents of violence which are law and order incidents, and Jihadist killings by Al Qaida that are terrorism.


4 posted on 03/21/2012 10:05:10 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: GeronL

I agree, it is only the “expressed” violence that’s noted by the MSM around the world. Nevermind the French women forced to wear burqua’s so they’ll not be raped, the “car-B-Ques” which occur regularly, the riots, etc. I have no doubt the reason the French Police wanted to take this loser alive was to prevent riots.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 10:57:54 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: GeronL

Let’s see: cars burned and Jewish synagogues blown up. No, no Islamic terrorist attacks since 1997. You just have to overlook. I had a friend living in an apartment in downtown Paris. He was concerned that his balcony was 7 stories up from a synagogue.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 11:16:39 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Cincinna

I like Sarko too. And the LePens have been anti-Semetic in the past, no?

We all, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Atheists, we all better realize we have a common enemy.

We really seem not to get that yet.

(Not those of us here on FR, we do get it, but those others, they are not getting it, not digging it, not groking it at all.)


7 posted on 03/21/2012 11:22:58 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Amberdawn

“Forced to wear burqas”? Hardly. You do know that burqas are banned in France, do you not?


8 posted on 03/21/2012 11:29:52 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Cincinna
Operative words, "political religious groups" . . . .

yitbos

9 posted on 03/21/2012 11:48:11 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Cincinna

Mohamed. That name rings a bell.

Wasn’t that the name of 10,000’s other murderers in recent years?


10 posted on 03/22/2012 12:07:54 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cincinna
Marine Le Pen... “It is time to wage war on these fundamentalist political religious groups who are killing our children,”

"fundamentalist political religious groups"? Is she afraid to say the word Muslim? Or does she believe that Christians and Jews are engaged in similar terrorism?

11 posted on 03/22/2012 1:23:29 AM PDT by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: jocon307; Cincinna

Christine Le Pen’s father was anti-semitic, yes, but I do not think that Christine is — rather she has been extremely pro-Israel and pro-Jewish. Probably she realizes, unlike her father, that Jews are not “the enemy”...


12 posted on 03/22/2012 4:51:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: stormer

They were banned only recently, dear. And by “forced” I refer to the women’s decision so as to not be harrassed by muslim “youths”.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 10:38:22 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Yeah, whatever. Have you actually been to France?


14 posted on 03/22/2012 11:26:25 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Cronos; All

Marine Le Pen is her father’s protégé and clone. She has tried to clean up her father’s racist anti-Semitic world view to trick people into voting for her.
MLP’s pseudo populist disguise is thin, and reveals her for the neo-fascist  clone of her neo-Nazi father that she is. 

Marine le Pen has refused to distance herself from those 
views. The FN is anti-American, anti-free enterprise, anti-capitalist, anti-globalist etc. Change her last name and she is interchangeable with the far left nutters and the OWS crowd, as well as the network of neo-Nazis, skinheads, and neo-fascists she pals around with. 
  MLP has  aligned herself with the anti-American, anti-capitalists and Statists, the closest thing to Fascism we’ve seen. 
  The merger of far right nationalism and the leftist anti-capitalist, (anti-liberale),  economic agenda is personified by MLP. It is called Fascism, a term the French are still uncomfortable with and are afraid to use when describing MLP & her movement. 

MLP is not any kind of Conservative, Far Right, Right, or otherwise . American Conservatism is a political philosophy based upon the God-given rights of the individual as expressed in the Declaration of Independence & the Constitution, and free market Capitalist principles. 
 MLP is a Statist which is the total opposite of Conservative. MLP believes in the power of the State over individual rights & Liberty, government control & has no problem with the soft tyranny of authoritarian government.    In the past, the Communists & many others on the Far Left have voted FN. Much of her support is coming from the far left. 
  The anti-European, anti-globalization message of MLP is shared by many on the Far Left. They might see that as a greater evil than creeping fascism, which they have never had a problem with in the past. 

  MLP, Socialists, Communists, Greens & every shade of red, are all Statists who believe in the power of the State over the individual rights set forth in our Founding Documents, The US Constitution and The Declaration of Independence. 
  Tocqueville himself warned against this possibility of what he called “soft tyranny”. We Americans listened up. Apparently even the French ignored his warnings. 
 The odds of MLP winning are minuscule. But she has succeeded where her father never could, in mainstreaming the xenophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-free market agenda, and making it acceptable.
  All those neo-Nazis, skinhead groups she pals around with? They’re just folks who love their country, share some ideas, meet for coffee and a little waltz... nothing sinister, right? 


15 posted on 03/22/2012 11:40:18 AM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: stormer

Go play your games elsewhere, I haven’t the time.


16 posted on 03/22/2012 1:21:21 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

The burqa has been banned in France for a year,
President Sarkozy has taken a strong stand and implemented laws and policies to limit the growth if radical Islam, unlike any other European country.
He has proposed curbing immigration, social benefits and a few years ago prohibited the wearing of the head scarf in schools and public institutions.
I, and many of our longtime posters here on FR have lived in France, or spent time there, know and understand French culture & society, and French politics. The situation in France, and the French elections interest many if us.


17 posted on 03/22/2012 2:09:58 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Amberdawn

Uh...OK. Why don’t you just say “no”.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 7:25:04 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Cincinna

Yes, one year. Before that there were reports in Gates Of Vienna and other sites about French women feeling compelled to wear islamic dress to avoid harrassment or violence. This is also the case in Sweden, where some blonde girls have taken to dyeing their hair brown to avoid the attention of muslim males.


19 posted on 03/22/2012 8:36:15 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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