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Gun that killed Florida teen was fired once not twice by crime watch volunteer
bostonherald.com ^ | 20 March, 2012 | Rene Stutzman and Bianca Prieto

Posted on 03/20/2012 7:08:27 PM PDT by marktwain

Edited on 03/20/2012 7:21:16 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SANFORD, Fla. — The handgun that killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old, was fired once — not twice — by a neighborhood crime watch volunteer, according to new information obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.

Police found a single shell casing at the scene, and when they seized George Zimmerman’s handgun, a Kel Tel 9 mm, its magazine was full, according to a source close to the investigation. The only bullet missing was the one in the chamber, the source said.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida; georgezimmerman; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: marktwain

Tonight on the local news after this story was mentioned they release a video of black man in a hotel. It is in a nearby Florida city. The released video was to help catch the black man who kidnapped and rapped a white women. He beat her so badly (for several hours) that they don’t know if she will live. It was stated that she will have years of reconstructive surgery if she survives. Where is the moral outrage of the race pimps?

As far as this story goes more will come out and it won’t be so clear. I heard that the hooded black boy attacked the Hispanic man before the shot was fired. There is physical evidence that it was self defense. I don’t know what is true and we may never know since the story changes every minute.


21 posted on 03/20/2012 7:31:00 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.
Police found a single shell casing at the scene, and... [suspect] George Zimmerman's... Kel Tel 9 mm... only bullet missing was the one in the chamber
To be an editing busybody, the only bullet missing was the one no longer in the chamber.


22 posted on 03/20/2012 7:31:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Josa

I had heard that Zimmerman was hispanic


23 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: marktwain
In Texas anyway, as I understand it, unless he witnessed the kid committing a felony, and IMH, beating a young or elderly person to death, he had no reason to exit his vehicle in the first place.
24 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:35 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Josa
Zimmerman looks to be Hispanic. He also has quite visible earrings, so he may well not be straight.

Martin looks like a clean-cut kid. No tattoos, no earrings, no nose plugs, carrying just a bag of Skittles and some iced tea ~ maybe even Rush' favorite ~ Snapple?

This is adult Hispanic thug on young black teenager crime.

If you want to call it white on black crime you need to find a social counselor to set you straight on the current categorizations.

25 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marktwain
I'm sure his attorney has insisted on radio silence from Zimmerman. So far, all we have is static from the victim's attorney and the inevitable race pimps, gathering like flies to a corpse.

We shall see, give it time for information to develop.

26 posted on 03/20/2012 7:33:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BushCountry
The released video was to help catch the black man who kidnapped and rapped a white women.


27 posted on 03/20/2012 7:34:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dudoight; All
“on his (Zimmerman’s) call to the dispatcher he said he was ‘following’ the kid and the dispatcher told him NOT to. He did it anyhow. He was the threatening one by skulking after the kid.”

Here is what the dispatcher said:

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

That is a *long* way from the dispatcher telling him not to do it. Zimmerman had as much right to be in that public space as Martin did.

28 posted on 03/20/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: BushCountry
Here's the way it went down ~ no story change in any of it. Hispanic adult armed with a pistol sees black teenager returning from 7-11.

Hispanic follows black teenager.

Hispanic shoots black teenager.

The crime started when the Hispanic fellow began following the teenager who was quite obviously peaceably going about his business returning home with the Skittles and iced tea he had purchased.

29 posted on 03/20/2012 7:36:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Envisioning
bah......IMH=IMHO
30 posted on 03/20/2012 7:36:27 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: marktwain; All
If a semi-auto pistol has a full magazine inserted and one in the chamber, when it is fired even once it will no longer have a full magazine. Every time.

The article cannot be accurate.

31 posted on 03/20/2012 7:38:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: marktwain

But the media feeding frenzy over this particular story – one out of the thousands of homicides in this country – in apparent response to a left-wing campaign to keep it in the national news, reflects at best a loss of perspective and at worst a cynical effort to inflame racial division in an election year.

Politico, in a story on pressure by the Congressional Black Caucus on the case, notes the scale of the campaign to nationalize the story:

http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2012/03/20/trayvon-martin-and-perspective/


32 posted on 03/20/2012 7:38:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: OldMissileer

I caught that too.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 7:38:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: marktwain

That’s physically impossible. You cannot fire a round from a semi-automatic pistol and still have a full magazine.


34 posted on 03/20/2012 7:41:48 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: OldMissileer

Isn’t it possible to chamber one round then insert a full magazine? Does this particular 9mm have a hair trigger? Could have been an accident but it sounds like he was in ‘hunter’s mode’.


35 posted on 03/20/2012 7:41:51 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: muawiyah

Crump said “she hears another voice, ‘What are you doing around here?’ Trayvon says, ‘Why are you following me?’ “ At that point, according to the girl, Travyon is pushed and his voice changes (we really don’t know if the boy was pushed. How could she tell over the phone?)

“She hears an ALTERCATION, suddenly, someone just hit the phone, because that’s the last she hears,” Crump said. She did not hear the shooting. There was a fight before the shot and we don’t know who attacked first. Also, the boy was wearing a hood and racing from the store (the Hispanic man did not know why?)


36 posted on 03/20/2012 7:43:11 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: BushCountry
Where is the moral outrage of the race pimps?

*SIGH* You're really not getting this are you? I'm here to help:

The overwhelmingly vast multitudes of white people who are hurt or killed by the small minority of black people are not important. Their lives don't count for as much.

The overwhelmingly tiny minority of black people who are somehow hurt/killed by white people - those are the special people. Their lives are important. They have black skin.

Is this starting to make sense now?

You're welcome.

37 posted on 03/20/2012 7:45:15 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Hiro Protaginast
he’s not white. he’s hispanic.

He was the shooter, so he's white. Had he been shot, he would be hispanic.

That sounds tongue-in-cheek, but it's not.

38 posted on 03/20/2012 7:46:10 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Isn’t it possible to chamber one round then insert a full magazine? Does this particular 9mm have a hair trigger? Could have been an accident but it sounds like he was in ‘hunter’s mode’

Yep, that's how many carry. However, when you fire the round in the chamber, the slide is always going to pull one out of the magazine to replace it. The only way to fire a semi-automatic pistol and have a full magazine is to chamber a round, and hold the magazine in your opposite hand as you fire.

39 posted on 03/20/2012 7:46:40 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: marktwain

Writing only about the gun:

Kel Tek makes at least 3 models of 9mm semi-auto.

It’s perfectly plausible to have fired 1 round and have “a full magazine” if one was still in the chamber and that counted.

Load magazine, chamber round, remove magazine, add 1 round, reinsert magazine.

This means it is nearly impossible he shot 2X.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 7:47:43 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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