In my Expedition, I can go about 5 hours between refueling stops and the stop takes about 10 minutes. That means about 3% of my travel time is spent refueling.
33% of the trip time refueling or 3% -- the choice is yours.
Only a liberal would think this is "progress."
As a small child, I had a track set with a car that ran on electricity. The “charger” looked like a fuel pump.
I could play with my car for about twenty minutes, but it seemed the charging time took longer than the play time. When charging the “vehicle,” I could sit for about thirty minutes pressing down a button, or place a large can of vegetables on top of it.
This toy sucked. So does the “Volt.”
Screw you, progressive bastards.
I can fill up my Hyundai Santa Fe and drive the 120 miles, drive back home and drive another 127 miles until I need to fill up with fuel.
You should also note that the electric car's batteries become less efficient with each recharging and thus the range decreases with each recharging until the batteries reduced range necessitates a change of the power batteries.
Per Nissan their battery pack is good for 100,000 miles until it needs replacement. Current cost for this is 18,000 dollars. In effect you then have a vehicle that is worthless at 100,000 miles. A vehicle that you probably paid at least 10-15 thousand extra as it is electric.
When Air Force One takes off from Washington and lands in Los Angeles using electric power I will buy an electric vehical.
Doesn’t TIME=MONEY to a liberal? It’s simply not worth my time sitting around at a charging station for 20 minutes doing nothing, going nowhere. Gas up and go in 5 minutes. Maybe buy a Slimjim and a Mountain Dew, but I’m 15 minutes down the road. And somehow I suspect the charging stations will be located at rest stops. Not a whole lot you can do there, besides poop and pee.
Of course all that electric power for recharging will have to come ONLY from windmills, solar panels and unicorn farts!
“The charge is free for now.” That means soon it will not free. I see a new revenue stream since people are not
smoking as much and those fees always go up an never down
Doesn’t everyone stop for 20 minutes every 50 miles?
So we're back to this, eh? Is the time to travel and "refuel" comparable?
Does it cost the same amount of money today to own a car as does to own a horse? A horse in every garage instead of those wicked automobiles. Of course it's against zoning laws to own "farm animals" in the suburbs.
How many people are there, exactly, who need to go from Cottage Grove, OR, to Portland?
They couldn’t pick a route that numerous people would actually use, could they?
“Only a liberal would think this is “progress.”
What’s next, super long extension cords, or a “third rail”? Even electric golf carts are annoying! Oh, I know, let’s put a special car on Jerry Brown’s new high-speed train to haul electric cars. That will take care of the “middle” part of the trip between LA and SF, if you can wait ten years.
Time to build a special rollback tow truck with a powerplant on board to do “jump starts”.
Frankly I see a booming economy for ANY tow truck in CA.
We borrowed a customized van last year that had two tanks. Drove from KC to Denver with only one stop to empty our “people tanks” and still had gas left over. IMO if you have to drive, that’s the way to do it!
Coast-to-coast you're adding roughly a full day consumed entirely by time spent at charging stations every 50 miles one way. That's great for families planning a road trip vacation. /s
Americans average 15,000 miles per year. 15,000 mi / 50 mi between charge stops * 20 min per stop is 6,000 minutes or 100 hours. That's about 4 days 3 hrs 50 min out of your year charging the car.
Assuming 20 mpg and 16 gallon tanks that's about 47 refueling stops. At 10 min each, that's 470 min or about 7 hrs 50 min to keep your car filled.
If I figured right, let's see ... 52 "lost" hours or 8 "lost" hours ... Yup, looks like progress to me. /s
What a waste.
Only a liberal would think this is “progress.”
At that point, you’d probably do better with a horse and buggy.
“Calling all copper thieves, calling all copper thieves!”
That is true but you are are trying to define/limit the choices, by saying it electric versus gasoline.
But the choices include: electric, plug-in hybrid, hybrid, gasoline, diesel, natural gas, gasoline-natural gas hybrid.
If you feel limited with your 5 hour range, switch to the gasoline-nat gas hybrid for a 9 hour range, if you can hold your water.
Most families own multiple cars and if they buy an electric it is only for local duty and have no intent of taking it on the road.
I have asked this question over and over and haven’t gotten an answer maybe I will now. How much will it cost for the 20 minute charge?
I have an idea, one that can work, you install a regular trailer hitch to your electric car, when the need arises that you have to travel a long distance you hitch up the “Electra-Mule” which is a small gas engine on a trailer axle connected by a drive belt and a clutch.
From inside the car by remote control once you have reached a cruising speed you engage the pusher motor and let it take the strain off the batteries.
Wit other options available is a quick charge feature alternator that can re-charge your electric vehicle when other options are not available.