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Anchorage prosecutor slams self-defense bill(AK)
necn.com ^ | 16 March, 2012 | NA

Posted on 03/17/2012 3:10:51 PM PDT by marktwain

JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — A bill that would expand the right to use lethal force as a means of self-defense is dangerous, without support in the prosecutorial community, and rife with potential unintended consequences, an Anchorage prosecutor said Friday.

James Fayette, an assistant district attorney, took a day off work to fly to Juneau on his own dime to speak out against HB80 during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Mark Neuman, R-Big Lake, would allow Alaskans to use lethal force in self-defense anywhere they are legally allowed. Current law explicitly affords that right only when someone is at home or work.

Similar legislation has been enacted around the country with the backing of the National Rifle Association. The bill cleared the House last year and is supported by Gov. Sean Parnell. It also has strong bipartisan support in the Senate.

But Fayette told the committee the bill is laden with the potential for unintended consequences.

"This is a bad idea," Fayette said. "It will do nothing to enhance the safety of law-abiding gun owners. What it will do is make it more difficult for me and my colleagues to convict violent criminals."

Fayette said the bill would unintentionally give people guilty of murder under current law an out in court. By removing the duty of a person to retreat whenever possible, he said, they could claim they killed someone in self-defense in just about any situation.

Fayette distributed news clippings to committee members that highlighted four Alaska cases he said could have ended differently if the proposal was already law.

One was the conviction of Vongdeuane Vongthongdy, who was convicted of first- and second-degree murder for the 2008 killing of an off-duty military police officer from Fort Richardson who was outside a bar in downtown Anchorage. Fayette showed the committee video of Vongthongdy, already a convicted felon at the time of the shooting, firing a .40-caliber handgun into the air in a street outside of a bar. The video shows 24-year-old Sgt. Evan Minnear approach and try to get diffuse the situation, but a fight ensued and Vongthongdy shot him dead.

"He claimed self-defense at trial," Fayette said. "After protracted legal argument toward the close of the trial, the judge ruled for various reasons that he had the opportunity to walk away. Had he been able to say, 'I didn't have to have to walk away,' that claim would have gone to the jury and he may have been acquitted."

Fayette also mentioned a gang-related shooting in downtown Anchorage, a Ketchikan man killed trying to stop someone from rifling through his parents' vehicle and a "road-rage related" case that left a Fairbanks man stabbed to death.

Sen. Bill Wielechowski, D-Anchorage, a co-sponsor of the bill and committee member, said after the hearing that Fayette's argument was dramatic and compelling but did nothing to win him over.

"All the examples that were given, they're covered under current law," Wielechowski said. "We're not saying you can just go out there and shoot somebody. You would have to reasonably believe someone is trying to kill you, rob you, sexually assault you, before lethal force would be allowed. This gives Alaskans the opportunity to protect themselves."

Neuman said he didn't think it was appropriate to bring up specific cases in a brief committee hearing. He also took issue with Fayette, who was invited to speak by committee Chair Hollis French, claiming to speak only on his own behalf but mentioning his job and credentials in detail.

After the hearing, Neuman emphasized his continued support of the bill.

"There's a certain sanctity that's allowed to you under the 'castle doctrine,'" Neuman said, referring to the current law. "Why should you not have those same rights if you're out camping, if you're at the Dimond Center?"

The committee held the bill, but another hearing is expected.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: ak; banglist; castle; proscutor
The headline could be: Prosecutor faces loss of power, desperately whines about it.
1 posted on 03/17/2012 3:10:57 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Even if a convicted felon were to kill someone in self defense with a firearm in his home, he might be prosecuted for felon in possesion of a firearm but the self defense for the killing would still stand up.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 3:19:02 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: marktwain

It is precisely because of prosecuiters like Fayette that castle doctrine laws like this are needed.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 3:23:01 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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"[T]he prosecutorial community" is an artificial construct made up of persons hired by the People of the State of Alaska to prosecute crimes, and it had better dammed* well support whatever the hail** those People choose for themselves in the way of self-defense policy or else resign en masse and let those same People "provide new Guards for their future security."***

* Dammed: blocked by an artificial structure to alter the path of a waterway.

**Hail: precipitation in the form of lumps of ice; a greeting.

***A quote from the US Declaration of Independence (1776).

4 posted on 03/17/2012 3:27:52 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: marktwain

I’d bet that Fayette is a Rat.


5 posted on 03/17/2012 4:05:10 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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He also took issue with Fayette, who was invited to speak by committee Chair Hollis French,...

I believe Hollis French was the Alaskan friend of either David Axelrod or Rahm Emmanuel who instigated and pushed the fraudulent "troopergate" charges against Sarah Palin. He was the White House's inside man in Alaska in the many efforts to harass and smear Palin and her family in Alaska.

6 posted on 03/17/2012 4:06:45 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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“prosecutorial community”

Good grief. What next? The athlete’s foot community? The mole-on-the-posterior community? The whining leftist moron community?


7 posted on 03/17/2012 5:43:55 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: marktwain

Fayette said the bill would unintentionally give people guilty of murder under current law an out in court. By removing the duty of a person to retreat whenever possible, he said, they could claim they killed someone in self-defense in just about any situation.

It appears obvious that this asswipe has never heard of the POLICE before.


8 posted on 03/17/2012 6:01:27 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: tarheelswamprat
"I believe Hollis French was the Alaskan friend of either David Axelrod or Rahm Emmanuel who instigated and pushed the fraudulent "troopergate" charges against Sarah Palin. He was the White House's inside man in Alaska in the many efforts to harass and smear Palin and her family in Alaska."

yep. If it's piled about "that high," brown and sticky, and stinks to high heaven, it's probably Hollis French. Why he's in Alaska I'll never know. His talents are wasted here. He should go to Chicago, where he would fit right in.

9 posted on 03/17/2012 8:41:23 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: marktwain
A bill that would expand the right to use lethal force as a means of self-defense is dangerous, without support in the prosecutorial community, and rife with potential unintended consequences, an Anchorage prosecutor said Friday.

Oh, well, if the DA's are against it, it MUST be bad. [facepalm] Does this fool seriously think his profession still has a well of credibility to draw upon??

10 posted on 03/17/2012 10:33:40 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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By removing the duty of a person to retreat whenever possible, he said, they could claim they killed someone in self-defense in just about any situation.

An absurd statement made by a liberal petty tyrant wannabe. No one has a duty to retreat from an attack. That notion places a burden on the attacked to be almost omniscient and able to think of every possibility for retreat while under attack. It gives the prosecutor a way to turn hindsight into a tool to make every victim of assault, who turns the tables on their attacker, into a criminal.

11 posted on 03/18/2012 2:34:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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