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Murders in France: soldiers banned from wearing uniforms off base after attacks
France24 ^ | March 16 2012 | Staff

Posted on 03/16/2012 8:32:49 PM PDT by Cincinna

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Our thoughts and prayers are with the families if the fallen paratroopers


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1 posted on 03/16/2012 8:33:00 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

How awful!

RIP to the two fallen soldiers and thoughts and prayers for the surviving soldier’s recovery.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 8:37:43 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Cincinna; afraidfortherepublic; mojo114; seenenuf; LucyT; Think free or die; DollyCali; ...

   The latest is that all were shot with the same weapon, in different towns.
  All were French citizens; three were of North African origin, the other Caribbean. All serving on active duty with France’s elite parachute division stationed in Afghanistan.
   After the Mossad, the French Secret Service is the best there is. Hopefully they will solve this quickly, and prevent more incidents.
   So far, the speculation is that this was carefully planned, and the motivation might have been from extreme far right racist groups or extreme far left anti military groups. 


3 posted on 03/16/2012 8:38:43 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna

Funny, never hear racism when a white person dies at the hand of a non-white. Keep the bs coming.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 8:57:19 PM PDT by TwoSwords
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To: Cincinna

“So far, the speculation is that this was carefully planned, and the motivation might have been from extreme far right racist groups or extreme far left anti military groups.”
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And of course there might be the slight possibility of (politically incorrect) scattered speculation that the motivation could have come from Islamists? I know, highly unlikely. More likely that it was done by an AMISH hit squad.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 9:00:08 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Cincinna

Very interesting. Thanks for posting...(could it be another?)...

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/muslim-kills-soldier-wounds-another-at-arkansas-military-recruiting-center.html

...especially given the recent shootings by Afghan military against American servicemen.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 9:06:52 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cincinna

Tactically, this might be a wise move, but the authorities better wrap this up quickly, because public relations wise, they’re handing a victory to the perps — whoever they are.

“We scared them right out of their uniforms.”

If they thought the “cheese-eating-surrender-monkey” jokes were bad before, yeeeeesh!


7 posted on 03/16/2012 9:10:56 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: Cincinna

Hell of a way to lose good men. All free world military-and the press that covers them-will have to be wary in the future.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 9:14:04 PM PDT by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: TwoSwords

From an investigative point if view, what do these men have in common?
1. They were members of France’s elite Paratrooper unit stationed in Iraq.
2. Three were in military uniform, and Tge fourth had recently placed an ad in a local paper to sell his motor bike, specifying he was military.
3. They were all French citizens
4. Three were of North African origin, one of Caribbean (countries like Martinique and Guadeloupe are part of French DOM-TOM, and they are citizens if France.

This is not a trick question. These were not random acts, but coordinated and targeted.

So, before you call any criminal hypothesis BS, who dunnit and why?


9 posted on 03/16/2012 9:20:34 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: House Atreides

It could possibly be anti- military. There is very strong anti war feeling among the French.
The Islamic terrorist hypothesis is also possible, as all the fallen were members if the paratrooper unit fighting in Afghanistan.
I’ll keep you all posted.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 9:25:11 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna

Who done it?

Muslims

Why?

Because they’re Muslims.

Result? The French Army will now surrender.

Why? Because they are led by pussies.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 9:25:40 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Cincinna

Answer my question first. When is a single white death a racist act, investigator? You epitomize the problem.


12 posted on 03/16/2012 9:30:35 PM PDT by TwoSwords
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To: Cincinna

Wouldn’t it make more sense to ARM THE SOLDIERS!
I mean really folks!

If taking them out of uniform is such a good idea, certainly dressing in skirts and wearing wigs would be absolutely brilliant.
Grow some already!


13 posted on 03/16/2012 9:30:41 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Cincinna
Perhaps the French need to bring back the 1st Foreign Legion Parachute Regiment (1er REP). The 1er REP were some of the toughest and meanest fighters of the Algerian War (1952-1961). They were feared by the Algerian Muslims because of their ferociousness. The 1er REP was disbanded after it tried a putsch against the French government in April 1961. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Foreign_Parachute_Regiment:
14 posted on 03/16/2012 9:33:55 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Cincinna

It would seem to me to be the act of Islamist terrorists operating in the south of France, IMHO.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 9:44:36 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: TwoSwords

If they were North African and Carribean, it is quite possible the men were not white. When I visited Paris, I saw more than one millitary policeman at the airport and train stations that were most definately not white.

That being said, the most likely scenario in my mind is a muslim terror group taking the war in Afghanistan to the home front and targeting military persons. Of course, the far right wing in Europe is a real different animal than the far right here, so if these troops were not white, that could have been why they were targeted. And you cannot dimiss the hard core left being behind this, as Euro-commies have a long history and predisposition for using violence to make a statement. I would put the last two groups ata distant second if I am thinking about perpetrators and motivations, though.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:00 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Once you see that it is all Kabuki Theater, you are free to quit wasting your time on politics.)
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That is not my question. Why when a white kills a non-white it’s racism but when a person of color kills a white racism isn’t mentioned?


17 posted on 03/16/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by TwoSwords
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To: Cincinna
Three of these men were ‘North Africans’ which means they were Muslims or were brought up Muslims. The other was from the French West Indies and may have been a light skinned ‘black creole’ who looked like a ‘North African’. I would suspect this was a well planned assassination campaign by Muslims living in France who are delivering a message to the rather numerous Muslims in elite French combat units such as the Foreign Legion as to what their fate will be if they continue to serve the ‘infidel’ French government. This unit recently returned from Afghanistan where these men had been fighting their ‘Muslim brothers’ in the service of the infidel. That is a death sentence for a Muslim. This is a serious story and may betoken more such attacks aimed not just at Muslims recently returned from Afghanistan or Iraq but US/NATO soldiers in general. The Islamacists are present in all of western Europe and in the US. The SSGT Bales incident could give the Islamacists the pretext to act here.
18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:21:10 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Cincinna

Simple solution.....give the soldiers sidearms and tell them not to leave their barracks alone. If these guys are
as elite as they are advertised and allowed to be armed the
bandit might take out one more of them but that would be the
end of his career.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 10:26:02 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: L,TOWM; TwoSwords
the far right wing in Europe is a real different animal than the far right here, so if these troops were not white, that could have been why they were targeted.

Quite possible.

In support of your observation about seeing "policiers" in France who are not white, I would recall that story about a Jewish person at a soccer match in France, who was pursued by a group of French skinheads. A French policeman - who was black - took charge, and shot one of them dead.

Quite complicated politics of race in that scenario.

In these latest killings, it is notable that Sarkozy and others hastily said that the killings were 'not political.' They seem to know something about the background to events. Just speculating - my own view is that this is happening in a region with a very distinct culture. In the south, various types of vendettas and honor killings are well known. If some local has a grudge against the Paras, this might be his way of settling the score.

20 posted on 03/16/2012 11:35:20 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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