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Adult kids flock back to the nest
MSN Money ^ | 3/13/2012 | Blair Briody

Posted on 03/14/2012 8:47:06 AM PDT by detective

As children grow up and venture out into the world, the transition from a bustling household to an empty one can be difficult -- so why not skip it all together? That's what millions of families are doing, not just in the United States, but in many other developed countries as well. In Italy, the culture of "mammismo" or mamas' boys, is widely accepted: Today, 37% of men age 30 or younger have never lived away from home. In Japan, "parasite singles" are chastised in the media for depending on Mom and Dad, but having few other options, they do it anyway.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: adulthood; children; economy; family; generationy
Adult children sounds like an oxymoron but it is actually the fastest growing group in America today. The most self-reliant people in the history of the world have been transformed to a group of whiny adolesents incapable of responsibilty or supporting themselves. The American work ethic is dying among young people. They all want someone else to support them.
1 posted on 03/14/2012 8:47:12 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
Adult children

otherwise known as liberals....

2 posted on 03/14/2012 8:49:13 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: detective

Hope and change, baby


3 posted on 03/14/2012 8:54:23 AM PDT by Marathoner (Obama has his own 9-9-9-plan: $9.99 a gallon at the pump.)
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To: detective
I lived at home until I got married at 24 (I finished college at 21). I was working, but not enough to afford anyplace to live anywhere near work.

My mother did start charging me rent, and I saved money for when I did move out (and my wife and I paid for our own wedding, as well), so it was win-win.

Now, that's not to say that there isn't something seriously wrong with 30 year-old paperboys living in the basement

4 posted on 03/14/2012 8:54:38 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

These aren’t people in their 20’s who work, pay rent and contribute to the household. That is great.

These are kids in their 30’s with no jobs who want to live at home for the forseeable future and expect their parents to support them.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 8:58:20 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
Epic cause and effect fail.

The work ethic is not “dying” in the younger generation.

It was killed by their parent's generation, who were too stupid to realize that focusing them on school and sports in their teens instead of having them get a job and develop a work ethic before the developmental stage in which that happens had passed was a bad idea.

Even a lot of freepers are that effing stupid. They bought into a lie that academics was enough. Sometimes ridicule actually is the correct approach, and these parents have fully earned it.

6 posted on 03/14/2012 8:58:31 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: detective

Some of your thesis is correct, but some of this is symptomatic of our declining standard of living.

You’ll see a LOT more of this (both young adults and old people) in the future.

Single family homes will become much more of a “luxury” for Americans in the future.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 8:58:58 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: detective

My kids have been told that they are welcome to move back in - so long as they have a full time job (even flipping burgers), follow our rules, do their share of chores, pay for their own share of food, and give half of their after tax pay to us as rent. They would do it in an emergency or during a temporary transition, but they know that I’ll think less of them if they do it out of laziness.


8 posted on 03/14/2012 9:00:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: nascarnation; detective

What you’re seeing in this behavior is that TS is slowly, but inexorably, Hing TF.

We are currently IN a SHTF (pronounced “shift”) scenario.

People are “doubling up” for mutual support and protect as the system slowly goes under.


9 posted on 03/14/2012 9:01:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: detective
What, ya mean young adults can't make it on $11 bucks an hour?

Hell, it only costs 89 dollars just to fill their gas tank...After the high costs of rent, sky high food, insurance, utilities etc etc...

Hells bells, so what in their in the hole, -900 per month!

They all must be lazy.

10 posted on 03/14/2012 9:02:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nascarnation

“You’ll see a LOT more of this (both young adults and old people) in the future.”

I couldn’t agree more. We’re watching the decline of a world power. Since there is nothing we can do about it, we may as well observe as one would observe a sporting event.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 9:02:17 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: nascarnation
“some of this is symptomatic of our declining standard of living.”

I agree. It is really tough for young people today. It is tough for everyone. The Obama Administration is destroying the economy.

But there is also a cultural factor. The government and the media encourage people to think they are entitled to have someone else support them. Young people who have bought into this think they have a right to free things that others must pay for. If someone else does not support them then they are victims denied their rights. More and more young people are buying into this idea.

12 posted on 03/14/2012 9:05:19 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

This is really a pet peave of mine. Blaming it on the job market is completely misguided. I left home at 18 for college, bought my first house at 24, build my own house at 34. My brother - divorced twice, lived at home (while married to #1), moved back in after divorce from #2. I play hockey with a number of guys in their mid 30s who still live at home. And the worst part? They are not shamed by it at all. Yet they wonder why they can’t find a wife.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 9:06:38 AM PDT by MatD
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To: detective
A large part of the problem in Japan is the cost of housing. Unless your family owns a plot of land most middle class won't be able to afford a postage stamp size lot to drop a house on.

One of my friends in Japan is a fire house captain in Yokohama. The only way he could afford his home was to put a new house on the same land his father's home had been on. It seemed quite common to move out, have your house leveled, and have a new one put in its place.

14 posted on 03/14/2012 9:09:46 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: detective

Yes, the Baraqqicare requirement that “children” be eligible for “health care” on their parents plan to age 26 is a good example.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 9:10:09 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: detective
I know; I know -- fossil alert! Never expected to return home after college. I joined the Navy and flew the world; had more responsibility at 23 than most people ever have (commanded a bomber crew, in charge of 12-20 sailors in my division, flew missions in Vietnam). Stayed in the Reserves until they made me go home. Had a colorful civilian career as well. Never out of work for more than six months.

Liberal poison has destroyed part of the current 20-30s generation. Largely responsible for the current Big Baby in the White House, tantrums included.

16 posted on 03/14/2012 9:11:35 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: detective
Some of us actually welcome our adult children back home.

My oldest daughter works full time, does more than her share of the chores, buys groceries, is a delight to have around and willingly takes on many of the errands involving my mother which would otherwise fall to me.

As an added bonus, she also takes my wife clothes shopping, a chore most American men enjoy about as much as getting a root canal.

17 posted on 03/14/2012 9:11:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: detective

I know what will fix this. And although I hate it, it’s coming.


18 posted on 03/14/2012 9:14:10 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: detective

When I turned 18 my !@#$ was stacked out on the front porch, I’ve been on my own ever since. That’s the way it ought to be done ...


19 posted on 03/14/2012 9:15:42 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Vigilanteman

Children who work full time, support themselves and contribute to the household are great. You are fortunate.

This is more about young people who refuse to support themselves, and expect to live off their parents all their lives.


20 posted on 03/14/2012 9:16:22 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective


I have the solution, at age 30 each person must report to carousel ...
21 posted on 03/14/2012 9:18:28 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Steely Tom

It is. It will likely be worse than the one in the 1860s, and the aftermath will be more like France in the 1790s.


22 posted on 03/14/2012 9:25:35 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: USNBandit

You could always take out one of those multi-generational mortgages they have over there.

Indenture your children, get a house.


23 posted on 03/14/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: detective

This is the weirdest damn Recovery I’ve ever seen!


24 posted on 03/14/2012 9:31:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: detective
These are kids in their 30’s with no jobs who want to live at home for the forseeable future and expect their parents to support them.

I already told my kids, that when they're in their 30s, I expect them to support ME.

25 posted on 03/14/2012 9:33:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Don’t tell the Democrats it’s a recovery, they will think that they can take more money of the economy and create more debt.

Shhhhhh.


26 posted on 03/14/2012 9:40:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: nascarnation

Your absolutely correct; a plan writ large by the Democrat Fascist party; they’ve been guiding things this way for the last 30 years. It’s designed to work just this way to ensure that every year there’s fewer and fewer new “households” formed in the U.S.; households meaning a couple gets married, buys a house, raise a family, etc. Its all part of the game plan to reduce “Born in the U.S.” population..........and its working quite well!


27 posted on 03/14/2012 9:47:29 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: detective

When ‘mommy and daddy’ die, these ‘kids’ are in for a rude awakening... and life as street bums.


28 posted on 03/14/2012 9:52:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Jonty30

I thought my friend told me it would have cost him $800k to buy a lot in the area of the city his family home was in. Just the lot and it was no bigger than the house. No outdoor space at all. a couple feet to the next house.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 10:00:55 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: detective

Italy => “mammismo” or mamas’ boys
Japan => “parasite singles”
United States => Democrat Underground posters


30 posted on 03/14/2012 10:04:18 AM PDT by kidd
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To: MatD
What, ya mean young adults can't make it on $11 bucks an hour?

Hell, it only costs 89 dollars just to fill their gas tank...After the high costs of rent, sky high food, insurance, utilities etc etc...

Hells bells, so what in their in the hole, -900 per month!

They all must be lazy.

I left home at 18 for college, bought my first house at 24

Oh sure, go to work at chicken licken for 8 bucks an hour, put yourself thorough college and then run out and purchase $180,000 to $400,000 home at 24 years of age...Riiight.... Sure buddy.

All this while millions in the 30s, 40s and 50s are losing their jobs, businesses, homes, retirements ...While young 24 year olds are doing so great, they're buying homes!!

Thanks for that obnoxious attempt at humor.

You could not be any further detached from reality.

This isn't your parents America.

Ya better get used to it

31 posted on 03/14/2012 10:09:14 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Vigilanteman

Nothing wrong with having multiple generations under one roof, as long as, everyone contributes. My Mother-In-Law has lived with us, ever since we had our first....no better babysitter in the world.


32 posted on 03/14/2012 10:12:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator
Nothing wrong with having multiple generations under one roof, as long as, everyone contributes.

You bet....It's the damn landlords charging $975 per month for cheesy flop house apartments, who are pissed. Screw them.

I told those in my tribe, they can stay as long as they want, as long as they pull their own weight!

I have no problem with that.

33 posted on 03/14/2012 10:22:03 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Extended families are becoming an economic necessity.

I will do anything to have my kids avoid paying interest, and allowing them to save more money when they’re young, so that they’ll have much more in their old age, long after Social Security has been put on the ash heap of history.


34 posted on 03/14/2012 10:24:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dragnet2

You’re about as dilusional as they come. I actually went to college. And finished because I worked hard, and when I got out I got a decent paying job. I wasn’t flipping burgers, I wasn’t a liberal arts major, I was an engineer with a bachelors degree. And I busted my hump to get it, and oh by the way I graduated with a ton of school loan debt because my parents couldn’t afford to pay my school bills for me. And I don’t live in San Diego, or NYC so home prices were affordable. I got where I am because I was motivated, worked hard and was smart with my decisions. So quit your whining.


35 posted on 03/14/2012 10:27:59 AM PDT by MatD
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Extended families are becoming an economic necessity.

Absolutely.

Ya add up what it takes just to live in some flop house apartment, then throw in gas, utilities, insurance, food....And most of these young people have *zip* chance living on their own. Fact is, most private sector middle class adults in their 50s are barely making it.

Those that can't seem to understand this, are either stooopid and simply detached from reality.

36 posted on 03/14/2012 10:32:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Blaming it on the job market is completely misguided. I left home at 18 for college, bought my first house at 24

I actually went to college. I got out I got a decent paying job. I was an engineer with a bachelors degree. I graduated with a ton of school loan debt

And ya did all this, rented an apartment/home, paid for rent, food, utilities, insurance, nearly 5 dollar gal gas, at 18 years old, working at a good paying job, and bought your first home a couple years later?

LOL!

Ya think some private sector, 18 year old kid can do this in today's America?

Most private sector adults nowadays are struggling just to fill their stinking gas tanks!

You're totally, 100% detached from reality.

37 posted on 03/14/2012 10:58:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I’d like to know what was considered normal before the socialists have us Social Security.

Didn’t the son become the head of the family and take care of his parents until they died?

Didn’t the family unit remain strong so people could take care of each other rather than having the federal government as a father?

I think it’s good for sons to live at home if they step up and become the man of the house when their turn comes.


38 posted on 03/14/2012 11:34:34 AM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: dragnet2

At 18 I was in college. I worked through college. I paid for my living expenses. My loans paid for my education.

I don’t understand why you think this is so difficult.

You sound alot like my wife’s office mate who complains about not being able to make it on his salary ... while he does nothing but overspend money on credit cards and fills his non-work time playing video games. Sorry bub, some of us make good decisions.


39 posted on 03/14/2012 1:00:26 PM PDT by MatD
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To: detective
Apparently those ‘self-esteem’ classes aren't working out so well.
40 posted on 03/14/2012 1:27:03 PM PDT by mtg
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To: MatD

You could at one time do this, even ten years ago.

In my area, I could have bought a 1 bedroom condo for 35 thousand dollars. It would now cost me a minimal 170 thousand dollars to buy that same condo.

If you wanted to buy a townhouse in my area, you gotta shell out 250 thousand dollars. To pay a 250 000 mortgage, when you include the mortgage, taxes, upkeep, etc, is probably going to set you back 2500 a month, to make any meaningful headway into the mortgage itself. To buy a house is going to cost you a good 4 grand a month.

I don’t know too many people who has 4 grand a month to pay a mortgage. The average income is about 60 grand a year in my area.

Not too many people I know could afford a post-secondary student loan and a house, without considering starving.


41 posted on 03/14/2012 7:45:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: detective
I can see the Obama 2012 campaign add.

"I brought families back together again!"
42 posted on 03/14/2012 7:56:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: dfwgator

I thought of moving out of the big place now that the last of the kids will be out in the next few years.

I am turning it into a place for two old friend roommates and me. Should be fun.

At the back of my mind? The place is large enough to give each of the kids a private place to live, with a little work it could be pretty much a four unit. Perhaps there would need to be some kitchen sharing. But if it gets bad, we all will have a place to live.

And we will be grateful to have each other.


43 posted on 03/14/2012 8:03:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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