Posted on 03/01/2012 10:30:19 PM PST by ReformationFan
Noting that the cause of Andrew Breitbart’s unexpected death yesterday was being examined by the Los Angeles County Coroner’s office, talk-radio host Michael Savage raised the question of whether the conservative media powerhouse – who recently announced he had videos that could politically damage President Obama – was murdered.
On his top-rated show today, Savage played an audio clip of Breitbart telling an audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington last month that he had obtained videos that shed light on Obama’s ties to radicals in the early 1980s who helped propel him to the presidency.
“Maybe my overly active imagination kicked into overdrive,” Savage told his listeners of his decision to raise the question. “But you heard what Breitbart said – he has videos … we’re going to vet the president.”
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I used to work with a guy who was an extreme Type A personality. He owned a contracting company and he supported my project. He pushed himself to ridiculous limits until he had a heart attack. The doctors told him he needed to cut back on his activity. He relaxed for a few months and then came back with a vengeance. A year later, he had a second heart attack, this one much worse than the first. The doctor now referred to him as a ticking time bomb and said that he would die unexpectedly if he continued his pace. He has, and he’s still alive, though if he keeled over at any point I would be completely unsurprised. He’s only in his late 30’s.
If Breitbart had a history of heart problems, then this could very well be the case. I have a hard time believing the assassination angle as well because of the era we live in. Killing one man isn’t going to get rid of the evidence.
As "unlikely" as it might be for an active 43 year old to drop dead on an evening stroll, I'd still venture that is the "likely" case here.
Having said that, until that has been confirmed I don't think ruling out any other possibility is particularly wise. Many people, some of them in powerful positions, wanted Breibart dead. The left has always had a propensity for violence, particularly towards those who dare to expose the dark truths about them. While, as I first said, a simple heart attack is probably the "likely" cause, I would also contend that if the left chose to assassinate a media opponent, Breitbart would have "likely" been near, or at the top of their list.
Jeff Kuhner was just on local radio here in Boston and he said the people from MSNBC would come up to Breitbart at the wh press dinner and tell him to his face that they wish he’d drop dead, see post #148 for info on a heart attack gun.
One need not get rid of the evidence, but merely intimidate those who might do anything with it. Take for example the gross criminality of Fast and Furious. The evidence against Holder is legion, and yet nobody in a position of authority is willing to do anything with it, not out of fear for their life (that we know of), but merely out of the fear of being branded a racist or losing their comfortable income and position.
I sure hope they are on the lookout for 1.52 mm diameter platinum/iridium pellets and umbrellas.
My guess in the case of a relatively young individual suffering a sudden death would be that the cause was a cardiac arrhythmia possibly associated with cardiomyopathy. The history of heart trouble comment with no recent doctor's follow up visits makes me suspicious that some further testing or treatment was recommended but not done.
By the way, sorry for the double post. I really liked AB’s style, especially when he had evidence via tapes. The way he’d release them a little at a time. He’d wait for the negative responses, denials, and excuses to what he had evidence of and then release a little more until leading to the ‘grand finale’. Quite a style. I was looking forward to him releasing the Obama tapes. Others are taking up the torch to release them, but it would have been better with AB at the reigns.
Although he was still young, I think our bodies can give out during constant pressure. We see this in young athletes and even hear about kids collapsing during sports. But, I’d still feel better with a full autopsy.
Wow, you barley knew of him yet you know he had minimal impact. Just because you didn't know of him does not mean the man didn't have impact - liberals hated him - hated him to the point where they'd tell him to his face that they wish he'd drop dead. You need to get out more.
I’m not accepting of anything here. I am glad the coroner is going to institute an autopsy, and have suggested the family should get an independent assessment in addition to that.
While it is true none of us had heard of it before this, Andrew’s father in law (comedian Orson Bean) is the person who said he had a heart problem.
Here’s a quote:
Breitbart was walking near his house in the Brentwood neighborhood shortly after midnight Thursday when he collapsed, his father-in-law Orson Bean said.
Someone saw him fall and called paramedics, who tried to revive him. They rushed him to the emergency room at UCLA Medical Center, Bean said. Breitbart had suffered heart problems a year earlier, but Bean said he could not pinpoint what happened.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-dies-natural-causes-website-reports/
BTW: not trying to be argumentative here - these are just the facts as I know them at this point
Inquiring tinfoil hats want to know! Actually I wouldn't put it past this administration, but if that is the case it was probably Soros who ordered the hit.
Well this thread involves michael weiner who is quite stupid. He proves that one does not have to be smart to get a PhD.
Andrew was the face of the Tea Party Movement. He was the point man for the downfall of ACORN. He had a lot of enemies in high places. I’m rather shocked that you had barely heard of him.
I was immediately suspicious of foul play, especially when the first reports out said he died of “natural causes”. He has been the subject of numerous death threats and the liberal blogosphere is rejoicing at the news of his death.
My guess is that he followed a routine and may have been a regular night walker in his neighborhood. That would make him an easy target for someone who wanted him dead, and that would include a lot of people, many of whom could afford to make his death seem like “natural causes”.
These days I have trouble believing anything that comes out of the MSM or the mouths of politicians. I remain suspicious of the official reports. Andrew was poised to release some potentially very damaging information on Obama’s “Lost Years”.
Two plus two equals four. Occam’s Razor.
It wasn't even so much his age but the fact that it was Andrew Breitbart, liberals hated his guts and as much as I am not a conspiracy theorist, this is highly suspicious.
While I was addressing someone else here, I believe parts of this post will be of interest to you. I appreciate the mention of Sean Hannity’s comments.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2853422/posts?page=159#159
BTW, will the flags be lowered to half staff for Breitbart? Oh wait, never mind, he wasn’t a crack whore.
Well this thread involves michael weiner who is quite stupid. He proves that one does not have to be smart to get a PhD.
Valerie Jarrett’s husband died of a sudden heart attack at age 40. His second wife also died of a heart attack at age 44.
I’m not sure if you’ve ever been inserviced about problematic packages, but wires sticking out of one is a possible tip-off.
Stains on the package can be another, oil, some other possible chemicals.
A package sent from someone you don’t know can be another.
You should be highly suspicious of a package you aren’t expecting.
In the Limbaugh incident, it seems they pegged it as some sort of electronic device. Perhaps it was packaged sloppy with some wires exposed, and it being from someone he didn’t know, and he wasn’t expecting it, his security took the proper precautions.
There is a possibility that the events surrounding Breitbart may have caused Rush’s security to be elevated. I’m not sure that is the case.
This may have taken place today as a coincidence. It’s also possible you are right.
Remember that Rush’s security undoubtedly checks the mail at some location away from Rush, before it is handed to him.
Perhaps they were paranoid. Who knows.
Leni
You realize, of course, that my comment makes perfect sense. EVERYONE knows of Rush and Hannity because of their high profile.
The obvious conclusion is that Breitbart simply didn't have that high of a profile. He was in the 2nd or 3rd tier of commentators on the political scene. He's probably in the class of a Cal Thomas or less in terms of recognizability.
I hope Tucker Carlson saw his doctor yesterday. He was with Breitbart at Ayers’ place. I guess it was Carlson who bid at an auction for this dinner so they could question Ayers and his bitch about their political views, up close and personal.
Making murders to look natural helps when the victim has a medical condition. That way, nobody has to “re-invent the wheel” to get the job done.
“If they are thorough, which the LA corner is, they will find a cause.”
Not so sure about that. My SIL died in her 50s in Brentwood, apparently healthy. The LA coroner / medical examiner investigated, but they never gave us an answer — just a lot of bagglegab. That was late in 2007. We weren’t impressed.
On a thread here yesterday, I believe I read that the person who saw him go down also saw a person jogging past him just before he fell.
The problem is, I have heard from various people that Brietbart did walk late at night as a habit, and that he did have serious heart issues that his friends and family were nagging him about.
If one other conservative warrior dies, THEN it is beginning.
Donald young and granny. Gee whiz, people pass away at convenient times for Obama.
There was something on the news about that evil Sandusky yesterday. I saw his mug on tv and burst into tears. HE’S STILL ALIVE, WHILE BREITBART IS DEAD?
Kuehner also said that he was a friend of Breitbart and that he did have some health issues. He mentioned high cholesterol, high blood pressure and a love of junk food.
That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night.
He who blamed rhetoric mentioning violent vocabulary as to blame for Jeffords’ shooting said THAT??
Type A personality. Hospitalized for 5 days last year for for an unspecified cardiac issue.
Was he compliant he was with his doctor's advice? We have no way of knowing. Nor do we know if he was asymptomatic prior to his death. It is far more probable he had warning signs he may have dismissed or not recognized than it was he was murdered.
My opinion FWIW, (not much) is the speculation of foul play has gone way over the top.
Sometimes shit happens and sometimes people are dealt bad cardiac cards.
Am not at all convinced that there was not a ‘devil in the details’ per Andrew’s death.
Can you name a few that come readily to mind; that did not have merit? Think the 'big ones'may remain as theories; but not ever, totally, discounted.
Same thought here. I was pretty surprised to learn he was only 43, based on his appearance. Not a healthy-looking guy.
(Can you name any that were proven to be true? And, if not proven true then a theory has no merit beyond the amusement factor)
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"Think the 'big ones'may remain as theories; but not ever, totally, discounted."
(Theories are to be proven - not accepted unless discounted.)
I’m thinking of the conspiracy theories that the government was responsible for — or at least an active participant in — the Kennedy assassination, the attack on the World Trade Center ... you know ... the stuff George Nori has fun with (although he is entertaining if you can’t sleep!)
‘Although it is reported that Breitbart was rushed to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, when LAWRENCE SINCLAIR called the hospital...’
http://www.infowars.com/breitbart-wait-til-they-see-what-happens-march-1st/
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.
You know when the white-talking cafe au lait Barry with the Real African Name wandered into the Ayers lair back in New York with hammers and sickles in his eyes, Ayres et al must have drooled.
“Perfect! Now we can get into the White House through the front door! No more explosives, no more girlfriends blown up. With you, baby, we waltz right in! I’m gonna make You the first black president, my friend!”
Groomed and educated, trying to turn him street, it was all easy. Sure, there was a little problem that he wasn’t actually a legal American, but come on, who’s ever going to believe that?? He will be such a media darling that it won’t matter... But then it kinda does, when people in the passport office find out something... Get out that fix it crew.
What? Some of your down low friends are talking to each other?? Gee, this won’t work for a gay And black candidate, we need to shut them up right quick... Ok, now it’s good again.
Uh oh, granny is sure getting proud of your nearly winning the election. But she’s a little senile. She says crazy things. She almost told a reporter that who’d have thought my little grandson, not even born in this country, could become the POTUS! Poor lady never lived to see you win... Win for Granny!
Uh oh, Mister President. There is a document in Hawaii on file showing you being brought Into the country... No problem. It doesn’t exist any more.
Not again. Those dang birthers and that red hair sculptured bastard. HERE is your long form, sir.
Breitbart has uncovered WHAT?? We will have to take care of this.
Why did it come out so fast that he died of “natural causes?” That is another very suspicious element.
Here’s some speculation to add to the theory. Maybe threats were made against the lower level operators of Breitbart’s sites unless they agreed to cover up what happened to Breitbart. Hence, that’s why they INSTANTLY came out to announce it was from natural causes, as one of them insisted on Hannity last night. And to tamp down any conspiracy theories, they are being allowed to release some of the college tapes, but there is going to be this delay past March 1st because, over the next couple weeks, they are being told to edit out specific, highly damaging material.
Tucker Carlson won an internet auction of a dinnner with Ayres and Dorne. He invited AB as his guest. Hannity interviewed a lady named Audrey who also attended.
I thought he was around my age, 45, but hey, I look like crap too.
I definitely would have declined. Hard to eat when a murderous, hate-filled steaming pile of abjectly ignorant horse manure is in charge of food preparation.
You underestimate the narcissistic injury of Breitbart’s CPAC 2012 speech last month to obama.
I was also surprised to learn he was only 43. He looks at least 10 years older...more like 53.
How about this for the conspiracy side - maybe AB was lying about his age. Not sure how well known his past is.
Why he might fudge his age - I dont know.
CNBCs Jim Kramer routinely claims he is older than he is - like 60. (I forget the specifics, but my cousins went to HS with him and say he’s FOS)
Honestly, this guy Alex makes some good points in this video. This death of “natural causes” doesn’t pass the smell test.
Bfl
I was referring to Breitbart’s kids as growing up conservative in L.A. is difficult. I am jealous of other Freepers in other states that they don’t have to pass massive billboards of AIDS/HIV/faggots getting it on about “partners” and AIDS on every major intersection.
Thank you Leni. That makes sense.
Thanks for the note of agreement. I just hate to see the good young ones go...
No your comment does not make sense, those of us who pay attention are well aware of who Breitbart is and what he accoomplished. You are out of the loop and because of your lack of knowledge you are trying to diminish Breitbart and what he did. He was hardly a second or third tier commentator. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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