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Obama Cabinet Secretary: 'The Private Market is in a Death Spiral'
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Posted on 02/29/2012 10:19:34 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama Cabinet Secretary: 'The Private Market is in a Death Spiral' By Fred Lucas February 29, 2012

(CNSNews.com) – Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told the House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday that the days of private health insurance are coming to an end in the United States.

“The private market is in a death spiral,” Sebelius said, contending this would be the case whether or not President Barack Obama's health care law had been enacted.

At the Ways and Means hearing, Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) asked Sebelius about the administration’s assurances that people who liked their current health insurance plan would be able to keep it under the new law.

“How about when the president said you can keep your health care coverage, if you like it?” Roskam said. “And yet, the reality is, according to Bloomberg (News) at least, 9 percent fewer businesses are offering medical coverage than in 2010. There the rhetoric didn’t meet the reality, did it?”

Sebelius did not contest the numbers.

“Well again, congressman, what you’re seeing, it wouldn’t have mattered if we had passed the Affordable Care Act or not,” she said. “The private market is in a death spiral.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; socialistdemocrats; socialisthealthcare; waronliberty
Who does she think she is?
1 posted on 02/29/2012 10:19:38 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

YEAH...the government KILLED it, you evil b*(tch


2 posted on 02/29/2012 10:21:32 AM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Sub-Driver

What would you expect from a captain in the Culture of Death?


3 posted on 02/29/2012 10:21:45 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Sub-Driver
Who does she think she is?

I can only guess. But, I do know what she is.

4 posted on 02/29/2012 10:23:33 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: Sub-Driver
That was the purpose of ObamaCare in the first place.
5 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:51 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think she is the spawn of Dr Kevorkian.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 10:27:20 AM PST by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
"That was the purpose of ObamaCare in the first place. "

DING DING DING!

We have a WINNER!

7 posted on 02/29/2012 10:29:13 AM PST by chs68
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To: Sub-Driver
Who does she think she is?

Given the powers assigned to her under Obamacare----she is the most powerful person in our country as she holds all our lives in her hands!

8 posted on 02/29/2012 10:29:50 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“contending this would be the case whether or not President Barack Obama’s health care law had been enacted.”

Ya. Whatever you say, you stupid whore.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 10:33:15 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Sub-Driver
“The private market is in a death spiral,” Sebelius said, contending this would be the case whether or not President Barack Obama's health care law had been enacted.

This is a case of 'the Winners' getting to write the history. Government has been interfering in healthcare delivery for decades. Each time the private sector gets crowded out, little by little. Pointing to a single event -- even one as large as Obamacare -- misses the point by a mile.

10 posted on 02/29/2012 10:33:26 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I notice the title quote was missing the

“WOO HOO!”

at the end of it.


11 posted on 02/29/2012 10:34:56 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s in a death spiral then by their own hand. Thanks 0bama.

I note that the stock for all major insurance carriers bounced up by 4-5% the day after this pos legislation was signed. Who are THEY kidding?


12 posted on 02/29/2012 10:35:18 AM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron)
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To: goodnesswins

Like when Obamacare mandated that children could be on their parent’s health plan till age 26. A lot of people thought: “Hey, that’s great. Another freebee!” What really happened is that company’s stopped the co-pays for everyone BUT the employee. So, technically they’re still “on the plan”, but the employee is paying for every cent of his/her family members.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 10:37:25 AM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: Sub-Driver

This was the plan all along. ‘Single Payer’ system here we come.

It bears repeating.. 0bama’s Sal Alinsky tactic is to CREATE THE EXCUSE THEN IMPLEMENT THE “CHANGE”.

Excuse: “Private market is in death spiral”
CHANGE: Single payer system

Excuse: Gulf oil rig disaster
CHANGE: Domestic oil drilling moratorium

Excuse: American guns in Mexico (F&F)
CHANGE: Gun control (Gun restrictions on American FFL’s)

Excuse: High gas prices
CHANGE: Electric or “green” vehicles

Excuse: “Women’s health”
CHANGE: Attack religion as gateway to Marxism

Excuse: Gay rights
CHANGE: Weaken our military

Excuse: Occupy Wall Street
CHANGE: Gov’t controls Wall Street

Excuse: “Arab Spring” Democracy!
CHANGE: “Arab Winter” Caliphate

Anyone care to add to my “Excuses for CHANGE” list?


14 posted on 02/29/2012 10:40:09 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Sub-Driver
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius:

“The private market is in a death spiral”

.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 10:41:00 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Sub-Driver

The whole economy is in a death spiral. It’s not just health care.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 10:44:00 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sub-Driver
 
The private market is in a death spiral?
 
Why don't you take your boot off the throat of the private market and good Americans and see how fast we spring back.
 
I am not going to your Camp!
 
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17 posted on 02/29/2012 10:45:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

What you have there is chilling enough.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 10:46:52 AM PST by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: Sub-Driver

She and Obama put a bullet in it!!!


19 posted on 02/29/2012 10:47:09 AM PST by mo
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To: Sub-Driver

Message to Romney: 0bama is not a nice guy who is in over his head. He is competently accomplishing his evil goals.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 10:47:35 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Sub-Driver

She may have been referring to the individual issue marketplace, as opposed to group plans. Individual issue has been in a death spiral for a long period of time. Althoug medical costs are the prime culprit, government hasn’t helped with interference in the market at both ends (mandates regarding covered services and underwriting, and increasingly successful efforts by insureds to compel coverage that insurers attempt to deny). All this has driven up premiums and deductibles so high that anyone who can get group coverage will, and many people with good health will roll the dice and forgo coverage — leaving only sicker people to buy coverage.


21 posted on 02/29/2012 10:50:16 AM PST by only1percent
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To: jersey117

What’s even more chilling is that I ‘rattled those off’ on the fly for purposes of posting.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 10:54:56 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Sub-Driver

It would be fine without all of the new mandates they are implemented to kill it off....


23 posted on 02/29/2012 10:58:52 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Vendome

All it needs is the “beer looter guy” in the background....


24 posted on 02/29/2012 11:00:19 AM PST by Grumpybutt (When it gets too much, turn it all off and turn to God - for only HE has the real plan.)
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To: Grumpybutt

Some did that before....

LOL


25 posted on 02/29/2012 11:02:56 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: rbg81

The ‘coverage until age 26’ clause was just another tactic to ensure the youth vote for 0bama.


26 posted on 02/29/2012 11:04:24 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: goodnesswins

——YEAH...the government KILLED it, you evil b*(tch-——

May she spend her later years in a Cuban hospital.

OK, I can’t even wish that on her.


27 posted on 02/29/2012 11:06:19 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
May she spend her later years in a Cuban hospital.

She doesn't give a crap. She is exempt from obamacare. They put in a nice little exemption clause for themselves (congress).

28 posted on 02/29/2012 11:09:17 AM PST by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Make Sillybus bird pin into a Hammer and Sickle please.

Perfect.


29 posted on 02/29/2012 11:15:32 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Gasshog
Amazingly, it's been done already. LOL


30 posted on 02/29/2012 11:30:16 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Sub-Driver
“How about when the president said you can keep your health care coverage, if you like it?”

And notice she didn't answer the question.

Another huge O-bomb-a lie which no one on the socialist team can defend.

31 posted on 02/29/2012 11:37:28 AM PST by what's up
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Excuse: “Guns are going from USA to Mexico”
Change: Gun control

Excuse: “State govts. are passing voter ID laws and immigration enforcement laws”
Change: DOJ takes control

Excuse: “Companies moving to right-to-work states costs union jobs”
Change: Force them to stay in union states via NLRB


32 posted on 02/29/2012 11:38:18 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Anyone care to add to my “Excuses for CHANGE” list?

Nope, that list alone is enough to make me head out for several stiff drinks.

Oh, wait, now there's another one: Excuse: Public drunkeness caused by Obama plans. CHANGE: mandatory chipping of all people because they MIGHT drink.

33 posted on 02/29/2012 11:41:56 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well when your government is strangling the life out of you, you tend to die....


34 posted on 02/29/2012 11:43:13 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: csmusaret

“I think she is the spawn of Dr Kevorkian.”

Close — she is the daughter of John Gilligan, former RAT-Lib-Socialist governor of Ohio who instituted the state income tax — thanks a lot, Jack.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 11:54:41 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The private market is in a death spiral. by design, brought to you by the United States Government.


36 posted on 02/29/2012 12:54:06 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told the House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday that the days of private health insurance are coming to an end in the United States.”

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Then fight!


37 posted on 02/29/2012 12:58:13 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Your first one is on my list but those others are keepers. You just reminded me that the DOJ replaced many of Sheriff Joe’s officers with Feds BECAUSE OF ARPAIO’S ELIGIBILITY INVESTIGATION.. Talk about strong-arming, and probably attempting to gain access to Joe’s computer files. Hopefully, Arpaio is one step ahead.


38 posted on 02/29/2012 1:40:48 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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