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Colorado Springs man shoots dogs, kills one, in self defense (CO)
gazette.com ^ | 24 February, 2012 | MATT STEINER

Posted on 02/26/2012 5:45:57 AM PST by marktwain

The owner of a pit bull and a boxer involved in a fatal dog shooting Thursday was cited Friday on suspicion of two counts of unlawful ownership of a dangerous animal, said Erica Meyer a Humane Society spokeswoman.

The incident happened around 4 p.m. Thursday at a house on Portrait Place in northeast Colorado Springs.

Bud Linton, who owns a german shepherd, said the two dogs had jumped his 6-foot fence and were fighting with his dog, Max. Linton said he coaxed max into the house when the boxer and pit bull chased after a neighbor and her two small dogs. That's when Linton got his gun and ended the chaos.

Linton used his Smith & Wesson revolver to subdue the dogs, killing the pit bull.

"I shot him twice, and he went two doors down and died," he said, noting he shot at the boxer but it ran off.

Meyer said the boxer is in custody at the Humane Society. She said the owners have 10 days to post a $600 bond to ensure that they maintain ownership of the animal while the case goes through the courts. The dog will not be released until after the proceedings are complete.

The name of the owner has not yet been released.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; co; defense; dog; germanshepherd; humanesociety; shooting
The anti-freedom types never mention defense against animals.
1 posted on 02/26/2012 5:46:01 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I have a place in rural Alabama - I always carry in case just such an event occurs.

What with all the Glockmania, it’s interesting to note the use here of a Smith & Wesson revolver.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 6:10:25 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

“What with all the Glockmania, it’s interesting to note the use here of a Smith & Wesson revolver.”

If one needs more than six shots, more range time is needed.

Or one should be carrying a rifle.

Or a Saiga 12 with a 20 round drum.

;-)


3 posted on 02/26/2012 6:20:15 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

When it absolutely, positively, has to go bang instead of click. For CCW, semi auto’s are more easily carried but for home protection, the revolver only requires the act of pulling the trigger.


4 posted on 02/26/2012 6:21:49 AM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: marktwain
That's when Linton got his gun and ended the chaos.

LOL, what a great line! Kudos to the writer of this piece.

5 posted on 02/26/2012 6:23:06 AM PST by alley cat
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To: marktwain

Another pit bull at room temperature...good shooting.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 6:27:49 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GladesGuru

If one needs more than six shots, more range time is needed.

Or one should be carrying a rifle.

Or a Saiga 12 with a 20 round drum.
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7 posted on 02/26/2012 6:35:35 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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8 posted on 02/26/2012 6:38:14 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GladesGuru

I just purched the perfect short range wepon for my wife,A 45 cal. Snake gun. Shoots the 410 “critter” round..... 4 copper discs plus 6 “BB”s. Pattern is best at 20 feet. Sure hit on “whatever” that threat what might be!


9 posted on 02/26/2012 6:50:07 AM PST by primatreat (I am really tired of "0"s craping and slinging shit toward the middle class.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
I have a place in rural Alabama - I always carry in case just such an event occurs.

Ditto. I had to use mine to dissuade a recalcitrant roaming Rottie once.

10 posted on 02/26/2012 6:52:12 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: GladesGuru
If one needs more than six shots, more range time is needed. Or one should be carrying a rifle. Or a Saiga 12 with a 20 round drum.

Pretty accurate assessment, but I still have 4 speed loaders for my .357 Mag...

11 posted on 02/26/2012 7:01:42 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Interesting. I use freeze-dried beef liver and a milk bone. I feed them where as you shoot them.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 7:10:59 AM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Never said I shot him. He was an unknown animal. He was approaching in a menacing manner. Shouting didn’t work so a shot in the ground did. I don’t think you would want to try the milkbone thing with this one.


13 posted on 02/26/2012 7:22:50 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: All

A few things disturb me here in this thread..

First off, a revolver being the choice vs a semi (Glockathon? Is that what you called it ?) It is interesting to see it’s use, I guess. I never really thought about it around the house as an alternative device. The revolver is as good a choice as any. But I’ve had a colt revolver jam on me after only a few rounds. It’s happened, and there is no unjamming it during performance. If your semi has the tendency to “Click” instead of “Bang” there is some major problems going on with it,and a trip to the smith is a good idea.

Buying a .22 rifle for taking care of an animal you’ve seen around the neighborhood is a good idea too. I carried one as a kid (younger than 13) into the woods quite often, and when there was a wild dog problem in my area, I did so to protect myself. When bears came about, I was trained on the 308 rifle, but never got the idea to go out by myself with one.

Dealing with a dog is a serious issue. Dogs don’t know when they’ve been shot. They don’t watch chuck norris movies, or understand what a bullet hit is. They also have many muscles dedicated to forward movement. This means that hitting one during a charge may not be to effective with as many rounds as taking down a person.

The choice for a .22 as a first rifle is a good choice, and it seems they were shopping in a budget. The choices get very slim below that price.

As far as the person themselves, I see both a couple who might like a first gun, and I see a couple who are just looking for the first sign of trouble to explode. Tough choice on the behalf of the gun seller. I also know that during a sales interaction, the two may have been listening and learning (giving serious attention to) but during the paperwork their excitement could have lead them to say some stupid things (”oh, yeah.. a drive by!” or “Now maybe your boss will take you seriously!”) I see stuff like that all the time at the counter.


14 posted on 02/26/2012 7:25:09 AM PST by Celerity
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To: SatinDoll

Interesting two approaches to the problem.

You feed them. This means when they see you they think “lunch.” And they will now come back and back and back. . .hmmmmm. . .maybe they see you AS lunch if you don’t have goodies to bribe them.

TangoLimaSierra’s approach means they learn quickly to leave him alone.

I’m going to have to go with TangoLimaSierra on this one.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 7:25:35 AM PST by Hulka
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
I also live in a rural area that has so many free roaming dogs I can't even take my own for walks anymore. Only one dog catcher for the entire county. Seems like folks move and just leave their dogs behind. It's a sad and dangerous situation.
16 posted on 02/26/2012 7:30:35 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: SatinDoll

Jumped a 6’ fence? Then went after a neighbor and her 2 little dogs? What, did they jump back over the 6’ fence to do that?

Too many holes in this story.


17 posted on 02/26/2012 7:46:31 AM PST by Tomato lover (Jesus is the way, the truth and the light)
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To: Celerity

Not to be picky but I think you are mixing your threads.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 7:52:33 AM PST by super7man
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To: SatinDoll

What happens on another day when the dogs you fed leap a fence and kill someone’s dog or someone’s child? If dog’s are attacking, they should either be kept so they can never get out on their own or they should be killed.

I love dogs but not all of them. My small dog was attacked by two unattended labs. I do not love them. If they get near us I will feed them a 2-foot piece of 1/2” rebar instead of the kick in the face the leader got the first time.


19 posted on 02/26/2012 7:53:57 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Tomato lover
Too many holes in this story.

More likely the reporter screwed up the story as they usually do.

Or maybe there was a fence on the bad dog's side, but not on the other side.

20 posted on 02/26/2012 8:00:45 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: super7man

Oh wow, you’re right. I have pieces of missing time ! I need more coffee.

Sorry folks !


21 posted on 02/26/2012 8:06:46 AM PST by Celerity
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22 posted on 02/26/2012 9:09:31 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: ladyvet
Seems like folks move and just leave their dogs behind.
Same here in rural AZ except it also seems to be suburban people coming out here and dumping their now unwanted/expensive-to-maintain pets instead of taking them to the pound.
23 posted on 02/26/2012 10:08:41 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: marktwain; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; GladesGuru; eastforker; alley cat; who knows what evil?; Covenantor; ..
Bud Linton, who owns a german shepherd, said the two dogs had jumped his 6-foot fence and were fighting with his dog, Max.

Just me, but I have yet to see a pit bull that can jump a 6 foot fence. Boxer maybe, but not a pit bull.

I may be uninformed. If I am then forgive me, but has anyone else ever heard of, or seen a breed of dog that has short legs with a torso as heavy comparative to its legs have the ability to jump 6 feet?

Please educate me, because something sounds fishy about this, unless I am wrong about the jumping abilities of pit bulls. As I said, I can understand a Boxer, but not a pit bull.
24 posted on 02/26/2012 10:26:12 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: OneVike
"...a breed of dog that has short legs with a torso as heavy comparative to its legs..."

Your question illustrates much of the problem with the so-called, "breed," and the generic application of the name, "pit bull" to a broad range of dogs. But, yes, I've seen very athletic dogs that could fit into the loose definition of "pit bull" that could launch themselves. At the no-kill shelter I volunteer at, we had one run specially fit with a caged roof for just such dogs, and while they may not be able to physically "leap" over a fence of that height, they can easily get up on it, and scramble over the top if they feel the compulsion to do so.

25 posted on 02/26/2012 10:32:44 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: OneVike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v5vjCWOK6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDXThV3bgU&feature=related


26 posted on 02/26/2012 10:35:48 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: OneVike

I’ve seen a doberman climb a 14 foot ladder. I wouldn’t say “Jump” as much as “Jump some, climb some”

But yeah, I can believe that part.


27 posted on 02/26/2012 10:36:33 AM PST by Celerity
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To: OneVike

dog parkour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T33dM74RCI


28 posted on 02/26/2012 10:38:47 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Joe 6-pack; marktwain; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; GladesGuru; eastforker; alley cat; who knows what evil?; ..
Thank you, I found more now also like these.

Pit Bull gliding over fence

Pit Bull climbing over fence

Pit Bull jumping over fence

So now I have been duly educated, because I have seen them not just jumping, but climbing and gliding over 6 foot fences.

I apologize for my ignorance. I learn something new every day.
29 posted on 02/26/2012 10:41:21 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: eartrumpet; Joe 6-pack

Those are all truly amazing. I will look at these breeds in a whole different light from now on.


30 posted on 02/26/2012 10:45:57 AM PST by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: marktwain
I had to follow the link to the "initial story" to find it but this is what I wanted to see...

Police said Linton will not face charges in connection with the incident,...

Good.

31 posted on 02/26/2012 3:33:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tomato lover
"Jumped a 6’ fence? Then went after a neighbor and her 2 little dogs? What, did they jump back over the 6’ fence to do that?"

Not unlikely at all. Especially if chain link (which I suspect, since they reacted to the visual cues of the presence of other dogs behind said fence). I've had Corgi pups climb over a "critter gate" with a mesh similar to chain link, of approximately equal ratio of "size of dog to height of fence".

32 posted on 02/27/2012 5:18:12 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: OneVike

Pit bulls aren’t like English Bulldogs - they are very muscular, but not “stubby”. I wouldn’t doubt that inch for inch in height, they could out jump a boxer.


33 posted on 03/02/2012 3:38:35 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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