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To: Ransomed
What I have been stating is the absolute antithesis of saying "marriage comes from the state."

Government recognizing a timeless truth such as marriage, and acting accordingly: honoring the inviolate relationship between husband, wife and the children they bear; seeing the uniquely unifying nature of marriage; acknowledging how marriage is critical to the continuance of society through optimally replenishing society, recognizing the inseparable religious component of marriage by allowing clergy to activate it - none of these things constitutes "creation" by any stretch of the imagination.

Government recognition of marriage has been the norm since nearly the establishment of this nation and has never been a problematic issue in the least until the very recent interventions by anarchist usurpers enabled by a profligate government court system.

If you need to attack something, attack the anarchists, not marriage as we have known it. Your energies are much more needed there.

125 posted on 02/23/2012 11:35:18 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

“What I have been stating is the absolute antithesis of saying “marriage comes from the state.”

I never thought you were. I think few if any on FR think that, although I have seen one or two.

“...none of these things constitutes “creation” by any stretch of the imagination.”

Not to you or me, but many have been conditioned to think that the institution does exist by the sufferance of Man and thus the state, 40% by a recent poll. So they accept whatever the state tells them is marriage. “Gay marriage” would never have found such acceptance if folks looked to their faith to define the institution. The same goes for most divorce and remarriage.

“Government recognition of marriage has been the norm since nearly the establishment of this nation and has never been a problematic issue in the least until the very recent interventions by anarchist usurpers enabled by a profligate government court system.”

It was always a danger, as the state’s definition of marriage is simply what judges, pols, or the majority think it can be at any one time. That works fine, up until the state’s definition departs from the actual definition, and society has become used to letting the state determine what a marriage can be.

“If you need to attack something, attack the anarchists, not marriage as we have known it.”

Anyone can look at my posts and see the only thing I have attacked are statists and homosexualists. They are the ones who are going to punish those who disagree with them about what marriage can or can’t be. That’s what all this is about.

Freegards


128 posted on 02/23/2012 12:23:46 PM PST by Ransomed
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