Hey nut case. Tell you this much. Put ALL the lesbos on one island, ALL the queer men on another and see which one survives more than one generation.
Posted on 02/22/2012 12:01:42 PM PST by NoPinkos
Many of my fellow conservatives have an almost knee-jerk hostility toward gay marriage. This does not make sense, because same-sex unions promote the values conservatives prize. Marriage is one of the basic building blocks of our neighborhoods and our nation. At its best, it is a stable bond between two individuals who work to create a loving household and a social and economic partnership. We encourage couples to marry because the commitments they make to one another provide benefits not only to themselves but also to their families and communities. Marriage requires thinking beyond one's own needs. It transforms two individuals into a union based on shared aspirations, and in doing so establishes a formal investment in the well-being of society. The fact that individuals who happen to be gay want to share in this vital social institution is evidence that conservative ideals enjoy widespread acceptance. Conservatives should celebrate this, rather than lament it.
Legalizing same-sex marriage would also be a recognition of basic American principles, and would represent the culmination of our nation's commitment to equal rights. It is, some have said, the last major civil-rights milestone yet to be surpassed in our two-century struggle to attain the goals we set for this nation at its formation.
This bedrock American principle of equality is central to the political and legal convictions of Republicans, Democrats, liberals, and conservatives alike. The dream that became America began with the revolutionary concept expressed in the Declaration of Independence in words that are among the most noble and elegant ever written: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."...
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Don’t sweat it.
It’s like when trolls scream “Bullies” or “Tattle tale!” at the Viking Kities or other such when caught.
What does being a "Goldwater guy" have to do with being an actual conservative? Barry Goldwater's first wife Peggy served on the national Board of Directors of Planned Barrenhood from about 1940 until her death in the mid-1970s. His last wife was another baby-killing enthusiast. Barry bragged publicly about bringing his daughter Susan to abort his grandchild and said that anyone who did not like that could kiss his ass. Barry betrayed Ronaldus Maximus regularly because of Barry's refusal to support a restoration of Western Civilization. Barry supported feckless Gerald Ford (as did Ayn Rand) because Ford and wife Betty were cheerleaders for abortion and Barry even cut a commercial for the 1976 California primary asking whether Californians REALKY wanted Reagan's finger near the nuclear button (the only thing missing being the little girl and the daisy).
Barry was also a persistent supporter of male homosexuality since at least two of his otherwise male descendants were sexual perverts of that sort.
Ted Olson, like Goldwater, is straight personally but is an enabler of the social perversions. Next we will be hearing how abortion is part of the "American dream" and something intended by the Founding Fathers when it is entirely more likely that they would have found abortion to be a pretext justifying them in tarring and feathering abortionists and riding them out of town on a rail as a preliminary to burning them at the stake.
The New Haven Colony (which joined with the Connecticut Colony to form the State of Connecticut), had a 17th century ordinance providing the death penalty for mere homosexual orientation, no actual sexual performance being necessary to qualify for such condemnation to capital punishment. Neither the Rev. Mr. Jonathan Davenport nor his immediate successors were confused or to be trifled with on this subject.
Thus abortion and sexual perversion posing as "marriage" are morality issues and never "rights" issues.
We are conservatives and NOT libertoonians.
Hello, Mr. Vader. Did you ping Godzilla when you used his picture?
OMGoodness, I get to ping my two favorites!!
My feewings are hurted.
Fret not, I get that kind of treatment from trolls and their enablers quite often.
Hey nut case. Tell you this much. Put ALL the lesbos on one island, ALL the queer men on another and see which one survives more than one generation.
Are you the several times zotted Loren C, and are you still a homo?
Godzilla - accept no substitutes
Yeah, like state-sanctioned sodomy. Now THAT's Conservative.
I stopped reading this waste of space right there.
Society consents to elect the government the arbiter of marriage when it fails, because it is the logical, presumably objective, party to do so. (Who else is to be the decider of things that MUST be decided when things go wrong in a marriage or one party dies?) And to arbitrate, it must define the substance of the case: marriage. What it defines (and marriage is ALREADY defined by eons of societies) it has every right to license, which isn't really a "license" in the proper use of the word, but a recording fee.
First of all Government should not be recognizing any marriages. They should only deal with contract law. Marriage should be stricken from any Government lexicon, thats what I am trying to say. If I want to have 10 wifes,why cant I? Why government wont recognize it?! King Solomon had many wifes,and I can have children with all of them. (Unlike homosexuality, having multiple wifes is natural and was done by kings in Biblical time) However, I can sleep and have children with 20 woman,and Government says nothing. But No,if I wanna register It officially,it becomes Illegal. Why? As conservative, I want government to have very limited effect on my life,including who I can or can’t Marry.
Governments have been recognizing marriages for over a thousand years.
You sound like a libertarian troll who wants to allow same-sex marriage while pretending to oppose it.
If I want to have 10 wifes,why cant I? Why government wont recognize it?! King Solomon had many wifes,and I can have children with all of them.
The libertarian cesspool expands.
As conservative, I want government to have very limited effect on my life,including who I can or can’t Marry.
Newbie, YOU ARE NOT A CONSERVATIVE.
The Founders set up our government according to Godly principles. What you are pushing is anarchistic.
Marriage, and the natural family it produces, is a God-given institution, our most fundamental civilizing one. It is the foundation stone of all civil society. It is the basis for organized human government. It is the most important wellspring of economics.
To destroy that is to destroy America.
There is a name for those who are not allowed to have government recognize and pay due regard to the civil marriage contract: chattel slaves.
Thus abortion and sexual perversion posing as “marriage” are morality issues and never “rights” issues.
We are conservatives and NOT libertoonians.
Boy, these certainly are difficult threads to post on. Everybody seems to be looking for a “gotcha you’re a gay lover” thing.
I merely responded to a post wondering who Olson was. Regardless, of how anyone on this thread feels, Olson was a Goldwater guy in 1964. That was “Conscience of A Conservative” Goldwater. He worked for Reagan. He was involved in Bush v Gore.
The point I made later in the thread was this background made Olson more credible when he tries to make his arguments to the general public. That is dangerous, because it can influence a significant group of people who may be ambivalent on the subject like many are. That means keep pushing states on anti-gay marriage amendments and keep on the offense. That also means a full-scale anti-Obama attack because the wrong Supreme Court picks can negate all the work done at the state level.
The battle to defend marriage is on three fronts. If one gets lost, it will fail.
Well said.
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