Arpaio: I briefed Santorum on birth certificate investigation

CNN ^ | 02/21/12 | Jim Acosta

[writer33]

Phoenix (CNN) – Joe Arpaio, the sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, briefed GOP contender Rick Santorum on his investigation into President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the controversial law enforcement official told reporters Tuesday.

After a speech to a Republican gathering in Phoenix where Santorum appeared earlier in the day, Arpaio explained he wanted to inform the candidate of his investigation "as a matter of fairness in case he wouldn't want me to support him."

Arpaio said he plans to endorse one of the four remaining GOP candidates in the coming weeks. But the sheriff added he would not make his choice known before he announces the findings of his birth certificate probe at a news conference set for March 1st. This endorsement would be his second in the race; in November 2011, he endorsed then-candidate Rick Perry.

[Harlan1196]

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.

[philman_36]

A citizen at the moment of birth is a Natural Born Citizen.
That's an impossibility. Can you see how?

However, YOUR small group of Birthers wants to redefine the term “Natural Born Citizen”.
A most interesting choice of words. What do they want to redefine it from.

[Kansas58]

A person who becomes a citizen, based on the laws of this country,in force at the moment of birth, is a Natural Born Citizen.

[philman_36]

But no Court will remove Obama from office after the fact.

Can a court, or other appropriate State authority, order an ineligible candidate off of a ballot or that they not be placed on a ballot before an election?

Yes

Does a candidate automatically gets a pass from proving their eligibility simply because they held the position due to a previous election or do they have to re-qualify for each election?

[philman_36]

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.
Which law? Is it a positive law or a Constitutional law that does so?

[philman_36]

A person who becomes a citizen, based on the laws of this country,in force at the moment of birth, is a Natural Born Citizen.

Which laws? Are positive laws what make them so?

[philman_36]

Sorry again...that should have been a question.

However, YOUR small group of Birthers wants to redefine the term “Natural Born Citizen”.
A most interesting choice of words. What do they want to redefine it from?

[woofie]

They will paint him as a nut....I hope he has something concrete

[woofie]

The best that could be hoped for is that Obama received a college scholarship as a foreigner or there is something to the SS # business

[philman_36]

It says “To 103”.

[Harlan1196]

Constitutional law. WKA in particular.

[philman_36]

Constitutional law. WKA in particular.
WKA isn't Constitutional law.
WKA is common law, that being the concept of precedence.

[philman_36]

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.

Which law? Is it a positive law or a Constitutional law that does so?

[philman_36]

I can't very well answer my self now, can I.

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.

Which law? Is it a positive law or a Constitutional law that does so?

[Harlan1196]

This is the definition of Constitutional law that I used:

Constitutional law deals with the interpretation and implementation of the United States Constitution. As the Constitution is the foundation of the United States, Constitutional law deals with some of the fundamental relationships within our society, which includes relationships among the states, the states and the federal government, the three branches (The Executive, Legislature, Judiciary) of the federal government, and the rights (e.g., human rights and civil rights) of the individual in relation to both federal and state government.

Because the supreme court plays such an important role in interpreting the constitution, study of Constitutional Law focuses heavily on Supreme Court rulings. Some of the most familiar topics of Constitutional law are the due process clauses, freedoms of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and the Bill of Rights.

http://www.statelawyers.com/Practice/Practice_Detail.cfm/PracticeTypeID:22

“study of Constitutional Law focuses heavily on Supreme Court rulings.” is what I keyed on.

It would appear to be a specialized sub-set of the Common Law. Not everything in the common law involves the Constitution.

[woofie]

It says “To 103”.

Is that bad ? I was just making a general comment

[philman_36]

Once the ruling/decision was rendered in WKA it became common law or precedent. WKA isn't Constitutional law.

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.

Which law? Is it a positive law or a Constitutional law that does so?

[philman_36]

Is that bad ?
Not in and of itself. Hot topic. I notice a lot out of necessity.

I was just making a general comment
And you've cleared things up nicely. Thanks.

[philman_36]

This is the definition of Constitutional law that I used...

I can find numerous definitions as well. Here's one...

@constitutional law: an overview

The broad topic of constitutional law deals with the interpretation and implementation of the United States Constitution. As the Constitution is the foundation of the United States, constitutional law deals with some of the fundamental relationships within our society. This includes relationships among the states, the states and the federal government, the three branches (executive, legislative, judicial) of the federal government, and the rights of the individual in relation to both federal and state government. The area of judicial review is an important subject within Constitutional Law. The Supreme Court has played a crucial role in interpreting the Constitution. Consequently, study of Constitutional Law focuses heavily on Supreme Court rulings.
While the topic also covers the interpretation and implementation of state constitutions, without qualification it is usually understood as referring to the Federal Constitution.

Lawyers study, or look for, precedence, or common law, as it weighs heavily in their arguments.

[philman_36]

So we're back to my question...

Legally he is a natural born citizen. We are a country of laws and the law is pretty clear on the matter regardless of what birther web sites tell you.

Which law? Is it a positive law or a Constitutional law that does so?