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Warning: Photo may disturb some readers; photo of lion trophy sparks debate over legal hunting
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/20/12 | Tom Stienstra

Posted on 02/20/2012 8:01:49 AM PST by SmithL

The divide between those who live in rural areas and those from cities ruptured wide this past weekend across America in a debate over a provocative photo of California Fish and Game Commission President Dan Richards and a huge mountain lion he shot legally after an 8-hour hunt in Idaho.

Some comments on Facebook suggest that Richards should be the one hunted and shot, that he should be jailed, that is unethical to shoot anything you do not eat, and hunting of any kind is barbaric.

Most from rural backgrounds would see nothing wrong with the photo. Mountain lions are predators that kill lots of deer and other animals, including house pets and farm animals, and fewer of them means more of just about everything else. Same with coyotes. Since the hunt occurred in Idaho, where mountain lion hunting is legal, there was nothing illegal about anything Richards did.

The photo first appeared in Western Outdoor News at http://www.wonews.com/Blog.aspx?id=1646 as an innocuous sidebar to a column post by Paul Lebowitz, 2010 California Outdoor Writer of the Year. The Humane Society of the United States, an anti-hunting organization, then copied and circulated the photo around the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: banglist; hunting; mountainlion
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To: SmithL

Purdy cat. Wouldn’t mind having a trophy like that.


21 posted on 02/20/2012 8:14:44 AM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: SmithL
Warning: Photo may disturb some readers; photo of lion trophy sparks debate over legal hunting

Why don't photos of politicians and other tyranny-related shots ever come with this kind of warning?

22 posted on 02/20/2012 8:15:23 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PreciousLiberty
P.S. I hope any of you supporting the “Humane Society”...stop.

The largest "humane society" of the USA, the HSUS, has a philosophy that animals shouldn't really even be pets or zoo exhibits, but it is grudgingly tolerated for the better good of the critters. They try to do with honey what PETA tries to do with vinegar, but it's crazy in both cases. The ASPCA is a much more reliable and pet-friendly organization. Local "humane societies" may also not share the anti-pet views of the HSUS.

23 posted on 02/20/2012 8:17:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Lazamataz
I want to hunt and shoot liberals, then pose like this guy.

No you don't. You never want a liberal that close to your face. That mountain lion subsisted on wild game and got a lot of exercise. There's a far smaller chance of catching some loathsome illness from hugging a dead mountain lion than a liberal.

24 posted on 02/20/2012 8:17:47 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: umgud
From the article:
Some think that mountain lions are a threatened or endangered species. They are neither. Wildlife biologists say that lions are healthy and abundant in much of California. Mountain lions are rather a specially protected species in California by a law created by a voter’s initiative, not by wildlife biologists.
Like Cap & Trade, this law exists solely to make Californians feel superior and more enlightened.
25 posted on 02/20/2012 8:18:52 AM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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To: SmithL

If the commissioner pushed for this law in California and then went and hunted in Idaho in a way that would be forbidden by this law in California, he’s a big hypocrite. But maybe he has nothing to do with the law except being stuck with having to enforce it in California.


26 posted on 02/20/2012 8:21:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: bigdirty
If you’re gonna hunt, put the animal to use and eat the damn thing.

I doubt it would taste good. Perhaps he can give it to some Chinese restaurant.

It's more like pest control. That cat is a predator that reduces the supply of game deer for hunters, as well as killing livestock, pets, and the occasional human.

27 posted on 02/20/2012 8:23:00 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

That would indeed be a way to keep Chinese restaurants in a copious supply of cat, without offending too many people.


28 posted on 02/20/2012 8:24:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: SmithL

Kitty hug!!!


29 posted on 02/20/2012 8:25:28 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: McBuff

POST OF THE DAY!!;)


30 posted on 02/20/2012 8:25:47 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: PapaBear3625

Fair enough on the pest control factor. If the mountain lion numbers are a problem and it is deemed the numbers need to be controlled or brought down for public safety, I support it. I don’t support just going out and trophy hunting for no reason other than to get a vanity item in your house. It’s the kind of mentality that leads to these amazing animals becoming endangered.


31 posted on 02/20/2012 8:26:31 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Slings and Arrows

Kitty ping.


32 posted on 02/20/2012 8:26:38 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: bigdirty
I think trophy hunting is worthless

That wasn't a trophy hunt. People lost their livestock to that cat. That's a predator hunt. We're having a similar problem locally with coyotes. I plan to kill some. And I'm not going to eat them. Understand?

33 posted on 02/20/2012 8:26:46 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: mmanager

Nice cat!!!


34 posted on 02/20/2012 8:27:00 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: SmithL

Would they rather have it the other way around?


35 posted on 02/20/2012 8:27:00 AM PST by jmcenanly (Things will be better in 2013)
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To: bigdirty
an expression of vanity, which is a sin.

Which of the Ten Commandments states "Thou shalt not be vain."? Thank in advance.

I just love it when people make up sh** that's no where in the Bible to suit their own personal bigotries....

36 posted on 02/20/2012 8:27:19 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
ASPCA? No thanks.

"Hunting

The ASPCA is opposed to hunting animals for sport, even if the animals killed in this way are subsequently consumed. The ASPCA does recognize that wildlife management may be necessary in situations where animal and human interests collide, but urges that management strategies be nonlethal wherever possible and never include avoidable suffering or distress."
37 posted on 02/20/2012 8:27:19 AM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: SmithL
He's just using the Heimlich maneuver because that big kitty has a liberal stuck in its throat.
38 posted on 02/20/2012 8:27:46 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The ASPCA has some great, practical people working for it in GA and SC. We’ve called them more than once to report conditions that we’ve seen horses kept in.


39 posted on 02/20/2012 8:28:23 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Doc Savage
Funny, I can think of many targets to hunt in SF!

Just don't eat what ya kill. ;-)

40 posted on 02/20/2012 8:28:51 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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