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U.S. oil gusher blows out projections
Fuel Fix ^ | February 20, 2012 | Simone Sebastian

Posted on 02/20/2012 7:56:14 AM PST by thackney

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To: alloysteel
Not so much that there is more drilling, but new recovery methods, especially hydraulic “fracking”, which enables recovery of the “tight” petroleum still remaining even in “dry” wells.

There is a huge amount of new drilling.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BHI/1704849332x0x543589/24F8E2FC-321A-4518-AA6A-48756C4D87F2/na_charts_021712.pdf

What has made the biggest new change is the use of steerable, horizontal drilling. Combined with hydraulic fracturing used for decades before, this made a drastic change in both production per well, and the ability to economically produced previously know thin layers.

It is there, it is only necessary to let the price to rise high enough to make recovery and reclamation economically feasible.

Very true, we would not be doing all this drilling into difficult formations with expensive horizontal methods at $20 oil.

Why aren’t we making oil out of organic trash? We already know how, and it has been done on a small scale at a turkey processing plant. And apparently at competitive price.

Is it competitive without tax payer subsidies?

21 posted on 02/20/2012 8:56:39 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

“The United States’ rapidly declining crude oil supply has made a stunning about-face”

Pretty Sad when the very first sentence starts out by repeating the BIG LIE. There is more recoverable in California than most of Saudi Arabia, and in the US the amount of recoverable oil is Astronomical. 100% of all Oil Shortages is a result of Government and it started with Jimmy Carter when he created the Dept of Energy to lessen our dependence on foreign oil which at the time was 35% or so, now it is reversed and we only produce 30-35%. Funny how it all coincided with the Saudis throwing out the Brits who by the way Built the Entire Saudi Oil Fields and Infrastructure. The Enemy is our own Government and the Democrat Party as a Whole, with a Majority of Republicans willing to go along with the scam as long as they can make a few bucks in the process..


22 posted on 02/20/2012 9:18:49 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok
Pretty Sad when the very first sentence starts out by repeating the BIG LIE.

Sorry, not a lie. Oil supply is not measured by oil in the ground. That is reserves. Oil supply is oil being brought to the market. Regardless of it being constrained by economics, politics or available reserves, oil supply (domestic production) was declining for years.

The shortfall was made up by imports, which now has been declining. We still import too much, and far too much from hostile nations.

23 posted on 02/20/2012 9:33:06 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Something smells fishy. I know for darn sure that the past three years have not been friendly to domestic oil production. Maybe these increased numbers are because Bush approved their use before they went online?”

No the timing is about right. It will be the next president who has to deal with the bad decissions being made now.


24 posted on 02/20/2012 9:46:24 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: thackney
U.S. crude production began rising again in 2009. Drilling rigs have rushed into the nation’s oil fields, suggesting a surge in domestic crude is on the horizon.

The number of rigs in U.S. oil fields has more than quad­rupled in the past three years to 1,272, according to the Baker Hughes rig count. Including those in natural gas fields, the United States now has more rigs at work than the entire rest of the world.

You can bet this will be a big Obama talking point in the upcoming months.
"It's because of meeee ."

25 posted on 02/20/2012 9:47:40 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

We have to push back at such announcements and point out to any media promoting Obama with data. Reality is that drilling and production has increased on private property while declining on federal land and water.


26 posted on 02/20/2012 9:55:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Is it competitive without tax payer subsidies?

It probably either did not scale up well, or ran into reliability problems which priced it out of the market price of oil. Besides, except fo the DC area, there just ain't enough bird crap around to make any significant quantities of oil and the DC product is mostly hot air which makes it uneconomic to convert.

27 posted on 02/20/2012 9:56:55 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Sawdring

They require you to slow down to a sip huh? I imagine throws a lot of them off having run rich for all those years.


28 posted on 02/20/2012 9:59:45 AM PST by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: thackney
I know we will several post asking if there is so much new drilling, why are we paying so much.

1. The price of oil is based on the international supply, not just our domestic supply.

2. The current rise in the price of oil is due to speculation by financial groups who are trying to corner the market.

29 posted on 02/20/2012 10:25:28 AM PST by wideminded
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To: thackney; alloysteel

The plant is in Carthage MO. They have a demonstrated capacity to turn organics into a distillable oil but are not making a profit.

They planned on getting free feedstock but the turkey plant found another buyer for their offal which forced the company to pay for feedstock by the ton, that and the did not qualify for the federal renewable energy funds. They say that they could have survived either of the events but combined, they cannot turn a profit.

I haven’t been down that way for a few years, I don’t know if the plant is still running. They kept it going as a demonstration plant and were trying to sell plants to Europe where they expected to be more profitable.


30 posted on 02/20/2012 10:32:25 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: thackney
Reality is that drilling and production has increased on private property while declining on federal land and water.

We have a winner! Give the man a cigar!

31 posted on 02/20/2012 10:48:30 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: 6ppc
Reality is that drilling and production has increased on private property while declining on federal land and water.

Which unfortunately plays even bigger for Obama. "I allowed private industry to do what it does best because I am a capitalist and I kept federal lands protected from those other greedy 1%'ers."

32 posted on 02/20/2012 11:38:56 AM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Peter from Rutland
The price will eventually come back down, it will just take time. Speculators and all the garbage with Iran will play a heavy toll but supply will NOT be a factor in gas prices going forward.

This is new supply via new technology making old fields productive, new ways of recovering oil from shale rock, tar sand, deep water etc. But it is more expensive to extract....the easy stuff is nearly gone. Because of the high cost of extraction and as an investor in the energy sector I expect the price of oil to remain at a high level for the foreseeable future.


33 posted on 02/20/2012 12:32:27 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: thackney

Sat, this weekend, Ed Wallace of KLIF radio show, said in his Oil Report, that Wyoming oil is selling on spot market at $60 and that Chicago gasoline is 40 cents lower than long term gas prices due to local glut. These short term gluts in certain market areas are not showing up for the national price of oil.


34 posted on 02/20/2012 1:25:58 PM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: q_an_a
These short term gluts in certain market areas are not showing up for the national price of oil.

And since we get far more oil from OPEC than Wyoming, a large impact from WY is more than offset by a much smaller price rise in the international oil market.

We do need more pipeline transportation in country to take domestically produced oil to existing refineries running on too much imported oil.

It is only a local glut because of the lack of infrastructure to deliver it to more markets. It doesn't affect the global market because it is physically separated by it. Oil is fungible, but only at market price less the cost of available transportation.

35 posted on 02/20/2012 1:47:11 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

No thanks to BO.


36 posted on 02/20/2012 9:50:54 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: thackney

thanks for helping me see the system. To bad our political folks don’t share it with their voters like you do wiht Freepers.


37 posted on 02/21/2012 4:26:33 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: mvpel; thackney; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; ...
See this video...:

Newt for Energy --- would remove CAFE Standards on Autos; more

38 posted on 02/22/2012 3:43:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

39 posted on 02/22/2012 3:55:49 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: thackney; raybbr
Nothing new under the sun:

ACCEPTED BY RESIDENTS
The project (which has been planned since August 2005 under the Gorilla Project codename) has now reached the stage at which Union County, South Dakota residents voted by 58% to 42% to allow the 3,300 acres of former farmland just north of Elk Point to become the site for this oil mega-project. Hyperion will try to obtain options on land around the site for 20 square miles (18,000–20,000 acres) to form a buffer and security zone.[snip]
The construction is expected to begin in 2010 and the four-year building period will create a further 4,500 jobs.
http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/elkpointrefinery/

SD judge asked to throw out oil refinery permit

Jan 12, 2012 – Opponents of a proposed $10 billion oil refinery urged a judge Thursday to strike down a state permit that would allow the project to be built in southeastern South Dakota. ... It would be the first new U.S. oil refinery built since 1976.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S7P6403.htm

As an aside, we're still waiting, since 9/2000, for the "new" particle physics lab to be up and running in the former Homestake Mine

40 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:14 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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