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Do Republicans want a Protestant POTUS candidate?

Posted on 02/19/2012 4:53:22 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill

57% of Republicans are Protestant and 23% are Catholic, if I read the data at Pew Research correctly.

Today, after church (Presbyterian, but thinking about joining an unaffilated church), a group of us older and more conservative men began discussing the lack of enthusiasm among the Republican base for any of the current candidates. One fellow said "I am not Catholic because I do not agree with the Catholic Church's teachings and I am not Mormon because I do not want to be a Mormon". Others generally agreed and said that the candidate's religion mattered a lot.

Is the talk about a contested convention and the possibility of candidates like Palin, Jeb Bush, etc. really a front for a movement toward a Protestant candidate?

I know I will be flamed for asking this question, but please consider it as a question that the base is considering.

Disclosure: Among the group, I like Newt the best, but in a contested convention, I would prefer someone new paired with Paul Ryan as VP (Ryan is a Catholic).


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1 posted on 02/19/2012 4:53:28 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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2 posted on 02/19/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by narses
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Mr obama the muslim is definitely not worried about white irish catholics, just ask Moochelle


3 posted on 02/19/2012 4:57:35 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

It is an interesting question. Perhaps Protestants sense their own churches surrender in the culture war and have hope that a reservoir of Biblical morality exists among Catholics?


4 posted on 02/19/2012 4:58:30 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Doesn’t annoy me but if the candidate’s religion is going to be the deciding issue, we deserve to lose.


5 posted on 02/19/2012 4:59:03 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

I’m a Protestant and have no problem with Catholics. They aren’t trying to force Catholic doctrine on me so I really don’t care as long as they’re unapologetic Christians


6 posted on 02/19/2012 4:59:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

It is an interesting question. Perhaps Protestants sense their own churches surrender in the culture war and have hope that a reservoir of Biblical morality exists among Catholics?


7 posted on 02/19/2012 4:59:38 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

I don’t care about the religious aspect a tenth as much as I care whether or not the candidate is a genuine American - that is, one who loves and supports our Constitution, our legal heritage and our historic culture and traditions.

As far as religion goes, anything within the sphere of the Judeo-Christian faith is fine. Most pols, however, list their ‘faith’ as a boiler plate part of their political CV.


8 posted on 02/19/2012 5:00:34 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
With the exception of a Muslim candidate (because their religion is PART of their political system)I don't see why the religion or lack thereof of a candidate matters. The President has no power to force his or her religion on anyone. We have a problem with galloping Secular Humanism, but that has come about as result of rulings by the Supremes, and from Congress.

It is the political views, and the character of the candidate that matter the most to me. These standards, and knowing the kind of folks the candidate chooses for advisors, and the kind of person he or she might choose for the Supremes, tells me more about a candidate than what religion the person professes.

9 posted on 02/19/2012 5:01:03 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

I’m glad I’m not as narrow-minded as some people, otherwise the only presidential candidate I could have voted for was Michael Dukakis.


10 posted on 02/19/2012 5:01:14 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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11 posted on 02/19/2012 5:01:43 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Rick and Newt are Catholic, Mitt is Mormon. The only protestant amongst the bunch in Paul. And he hardly advertises it.


12 posted on 02/19/2012 5:01:43 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Williams

That is exactly right.

Conservatives better wake the Hell up and fast.

These little stupid, useless side issues don’t matter a hill of beans when we are about 5 minutes away from living in Nazi, America.

One thing I have to give Obama credit for is that he has exposed in no uncertain terms whatsoever exactly how stupid the right in this country is.


13 posted on 02/19/2012 5:04:49 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
The only protestant amongst the bunch in Paul. And he hardly advertises it.

That's one Protestant I could never support and his religion has absolutely nothing to do with it.

14 posted on 02/19/2012 5:05:47 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

I don’t think older conservative (white) men are much of a voting bloc, so their opinion on Protestant, Catholic, or Mormon probably counts for very little. Best just consider voting for anyone except Obama and forget the details.


15 posted on 02/19/2012 5:06:30 PM PST by yetidog
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To: SuziQ

“Religion” matters because anyone to be trusted with the power of the US Presidency MUST know that he or she is accountable to a “Higher Power”. Whom they choose to be accountable to truly matters.

Is it the God of the Bible whom they love, revere and, yes, fear, or is some wanna-be imposter?

Most avoided is a candidate who perceives themselves as the supreme authority.


16 posted on 02/19/2012 5:07:39 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Yankee

I’m pretty suspicious of the constant attempts to drive a wedge between Catholics and Protestants. That benefits only the democrats and Satan.


17 posted on 02/19/2012 5:11:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

As a former RC and now evangelical, i am quite sure it has little to do with the candidates religion, but the quality overall. Although faith does matter a lot, you are not dealing with a monolithic group.

But Santorum’s recent affirmation of the President as being a Christian testifies to his lack of discernment.


18 posted on 02/19/2012 5:12:18 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust in the Lord Jesus to save you as a damned+morally destitute sinner ,+ be forgiven+live)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Maybe they consider Obama to be a Protestant, and we all know he would be the best one to lead our country...... to HELL


19 posted on 02/19/2012 5:13:31 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Who cares? As long as they understand that this country and the Constitution and laws of this country are based on Judeo-Christian values and that when they swear on the Bible to uphold that Constitution and the laws of the country, it really means something. Obama can lie to succeed in his goals because his religion (or lack thereof) clearly condones that.


20 posted on 02/19/2012 5:15:28 PM PST by westmichman ( To a liberal or democrat, Truth is HATE SPEECH)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

No. It’s about nobody really wanting Romney as the nominee other than Obama’s crowd. Romney is an empty suit. A rich NE liberal politician turned Rino.

I would like President that believes Christians deserve as much freedom of religion and freedom of speech as atheists, abortionists, environmentalists and the like.


21 posted on 02/19/2012 5:15:43 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Yes, I want a ‘protester’ of Communism, Socialism, Progressive-ism, liberalism, capital-ISM ... UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, ILLEGAL INVASION, anti-Constitution, the amoral, immoral liars, cheats and thieves... Social justice enforcers ....

I don't care what their ‘religious’ mantel so long at they understand that the Creator alone is the giver of unalienable ‘rights’!!!!!

Oh and for those who ‘gasp’ at capital-ISM being listed, remember who bought and paid for this present president. WALL STREET.... $0R0$ led the charge .... it sure was not a capitalist free market election.

Oh, also notice I did NOT include repentant ‘sinners’.

22 posted on 02/19/2012 5:16:23 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Jeb Bush is Catholic.

Palin was baptized Catholic.

23 posted on 02/19/2012 5:16:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: SuziQ
Obama's own church (Trinity) Church of Christ used to think they should have civil authority over the government to make sure its agents didn't deviate from their moral standards.

That seems to be the only point of theology that Obama seems to have absorbed ~ that he should force the system to work according to current CofC standards.

24 posted on 02/19/2012 5:26:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: jjotto

“It is an interesting question. Perhaps Protestants sense their own churches surrender in the culture war and have hope that a reservoir of Biblical morality exists among Catholics?”

No, that really isn’t it.


25 posted on 02/19/2012 5:26:16 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Yankee

Absent a convention coup, Paul is the only protestant ‘republican’ we can have. I agree with your second statement fully; however, I could, in desperation, support Paul for one reason alone. He’d be much easier to impeach and remove than Obama. And his VP probably would be too. I really don’t want Pres. Boehner, but I’d take him over Obama.


26 posted on 02/19/2012 5:26:41 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Ahhh... you beat me to it.

As a LCMS member, even I feel Catholics are fine and dandy to serve as president.

BUT would have a HUGE problem with a Mormon, a Satanist, or a Scientologist though.

But hey, that’s me.


27 posted on 02/19/2012 5:28:02 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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28 posted on 02/19/2012 5:33:23 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Jeb Bush is Catholic


29 posted on 02/19/2012 5:34:42 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Get back in the race Gov. Perry, you are head and shoulders better than any candidate in this primary. I like your conservative record, your conservative platform including your economic plan, your states rights beliefs, and other provisions I know of. I don’t give a tinkers damn for remaining big government choices we have before us!! And I don't mind that you are an evangelical protestant Christian.
30 posted on 02/19/2012 5:37:23 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
I hope the Administrator pulls this thread.

Well if you feel that way, why did you post it?

31 posted on 02/19/2012 5:39:21 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: cripplecreek

In short, I do not think there will be any debates between Protestants as to voting Catholic in this election cycle versus 1960. I believe we are much more afraid of the Secular Humanism god in government now any Republican Catholic. Now, Dem Catholic is a different story.


32 posted on 02/19/2012 5:44:37 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Anything beats the Moslem we have now.
33 posted on 02/19/2012 5:48:41 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
What is religion but some sort of connection with God.

The finer points of that connection .. that relationship .. may differ as to how it leads to where, but as far as I know, in America .. we don't kill each other over these differences.

As I remember my life, being born in 1948, I "woke up" around '53/'54 and until getting out of the Army in '67 (my military/polital/socio comscience was stirred in '66 or so), America ( me, anyway .. and anyone I knew) went to church and the church you went to wasn't as important as long as you were a good family.


So I personally don't care if you're Catholic, Protestant, Mormon or Jew ... if you're good and American minded .. you're good to go if you have something to offer our nation in leadership.

There are, however, some religions unacceptable to the American psyche.

Satanism and Islam are both antithetical to the moral and spiritual values and directions of what is traditional religious sects/denominations.

Your question is interesting Andy, only so far as to conclude there is an American fabric made of American threads and the strongest element in America is the cord made of those many threads .. the family .. the one that prays together, stays together ... we just never truly realized how basic the religios family was to the unity of America.

God ....

Bless America.

34 posted on 02/19/2012 5:53:13 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: jjotto

“Perhaps Protestants sense their own churches surrender in the culture war and have hope that a reservoir of Biblical morality exists among Catholics?”

Big time BINGO!


35 posted on 02/19/2012 5:53:22 PM PST by hiho hiho
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

“Do Republicans want a Protestant POTUS candidate?”

Not necessarily. I don’t care if he is an atheist, as long as he’s a strict Constitutionalist and supports all religions in freely practicing their respective faiths.


36 posted on 02/19/2012 5:53:57 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
I went to Catholic grade and high school. I was upset that the church did not stand up to the pro-abortion pro-gay marriage politicians. It appeared they did not care what was happening with the culture. I wanted to see them excommunicate the Pelosi’s, Kennedy's....I never heard them talk in church about values, so I started looking for a church that stood up for what is right no matter how unpopular it was.. I now am a protestant and am a Santorum backer. I look at peoples values and if they walk the walk. I am so happy to see the Catholic Church stand up to the left. I just hope it continues.
37 posted on 02/19/2012 5:56:36 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m pretty suspicious of the constant attempts to drive a wedge between Catholics and Protestants. That benefits only the democrats and Satan.


Ditto


38 posted on 02/19/2012 6:01:08 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: daniel1212

So anyone who is Catholic suffers from a lack of “discernment?”


39 posted on 02/19/2012 6:02:45 PM PST by yetidog
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Is the talk about a contested convention and the possibility of candidates like Palin, Jeb Bush, etc. really a front for a movement toward a Protestant candidate?

No, that is silly and groundless conjecture.

I am looking for the candidate that does not wear his faith on his sleeve. I only want a person of conviction that does not hold his finger in the wind to gage the prevailing wind of opinion. I want a candidate with strong innate values and an intuitive understanding that the Progressives are simply modern-day Lotus-eaters who bring ruination to any society that they infest. My religious test is the rejection of false prophets that destroy humanity.

40 posted on 02/19/2012 6:05:20 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Jeb Bush is a Catholic.


41 posted on 02/19/2012 6:09:47 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: yetidog

You are over reacting, as i specified him, and plenty of RCs see thru the Pres false professions. But besides more doctrinal issues there is a more of a tendency toward liberalism among mainline RCs and Prots: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

Also of interest: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Statistical_Correlations.html


42 posted on 02/19/2012 6:16:21 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust in the Lord Jesus to save you as a damned+morally destitute sinner ,+ be forgiven+live)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Yes I am praying for Newt Rick and Mitt to convert. lol


43 posted on 02/19/2012 6:16:50 PM PST by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: Linda Frances

“I now am a protestant and am a Santorum backer”

How that?

Santorum: “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”


44 posted on 02/19/2012 6:18:24 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Williams

“if the candidate’s religion is going to be the deciding issue, we deserve to lose”

Spot on. Not being Catholic, I’ve passed the time with a Catholic Priest on Sunday morning after his mass, and while it was obvious he was looking for another member, that fine gentleman never once resorted to even a hint of verbal arm twisting.

If the question exists, we need to assure that attempts to divide us along such lines are promptly swept aside. Far too much is at stake.


45 posted on 02/19/2012 6:20:11 PM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Religious wars have caused, and are still causing, a destruction in the world.
JFK managed to be an elected Catholic. I never know nor am I interested in acandidate's religious preference. That choice is between themselves and God.
Anyone attempting to cause discord between Christian denominations is doing a cruel disservice to this country.
One of our founding principles is acceptance of all Christian faiths and limiting government from advocating or supporting one faith or another.
I was baptized and raised and attending LMS churches. Today I attend church at an Episcopal church that supports a church preschool attended by my grandson
The members are welcoming, warm, and inclusive. I enjoy the Priest and the members, Sure, the LCMS would reject my position but I long ago found that Jesus Christ did not frown on me because of Christian church I might be in fellowship.
46 posted on 02/19/2012 6:20:11 PM PST by lag along
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To: Marguerite
Santorum: “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

He needs to look in his churches front yard and backyard engulfed still with the homosexual and pediphile escapades of it's Priesthood. At least if found in the Protestants faith they act on it or leave their church if they don't.

Santorum is in no place to be "Preacher Man"...and those apart from the faith will not see him in a good light for drumming home matters of faith to a society that hardly adheres to such aside from "lip'service".

47 posted on 02/19/2012 6:22:38 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

I think that no candidate or president, should look or judge other people’s faith.

Faith, IMO, is a personal matter. Santorum, Obama&cohorts SHOULD stay out of it.


48 posted on 02/19/2012 6:27:47 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: yetidog; Daniel
So anyone who is Catholic suffers from a lack of “discernment?”

That's not what he said so don't twist his words so the victim card can be played.

He said Santorum's comment showed HE lacked discernment..and he's right ..it did.

49 posted on 02/19/2012 6:29:53 PM PST by caww
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To: Marguerite
I think that no candidate or president, should look or judge other people’s faith.

It would be great if it didn't need to become an issue...but it's going to as Obama arms up to make this election also about religion. In part because before you can build a "one world system" as the Un and National leaders are doing...you have to unite people spiritually...and before you do that you have to destroy what you can of the truth in order to replace it with a false religion.

So religion is going to become an issue, currently people are debating if or not should be which attests to the fact it is.

50 posted on 02/19/2012 6:39:50 PM PST by caww
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